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Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:07
by tonyevs
jimglen wrote:I believe that's 5.
yep. my wife does the same when she can`t prove her point ...talk nonsense, and change the subject ...
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:14
by jimglen
Subject wasn't changed that's 5 British fighters AT THE WEIGHT who beat Floyd...
jimglen wrote:well a look at the "Fabulous Floyd", a LW cum WW, in the past he would have been fighting as a WW cum MW - for starters!
Anyhow lets just look at the great little LW cum WW Eric Boon, whom in 1948 when at the end of his career goes a beauty against French great Robert Villimain and this is Fight of the year!
Villimain a couple of years later scares the _uck out of our all-time great MW's and is defo one of the greats at the weight!!
Boon was well past it and among some of the lads that gave him hell was his rival Arthur Danahar, now two great little fighters, Still not Britain's best at the weight and the next 3 kick Money's little ass!!!
Ted kid Lewis
Jackie kid Berg
Ernie Roderick
History IS A LONG time and the great fighters of the Greatest periods are by far the more superior bunch...
too many greats over the years to be discounted by Modern Hype and Media _ullshit and especially from one of the weakest periods in the sports long history!
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:32
by Collins2000
tonyevs wrote:jimglen wrote:I believe that's 5.
yep. my wife does the same when she can`t prove her point ...talk nonsense, and change the subject ...
Yep, That's Jimbo's M.O. too.
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 16:40
by jimglen
ah the journeyman's out, how much do you get for a fight Collins?
the man asked me to name British fighter who beat his named fighters and closing in on Mayweather I named 5 British fighters who could beat him!
So whose "evading" the response... are you now too?
and before I go on, I'll just say that your a hard man to beat Collins you'll be making the rankings soon from journeyman to contender - but of course - through illegal means, fouls, lowblows and rabbit punching!!!
just stick to the topic, statements, requested questions and response!
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 10 Jan 2010, 17:00
by tonyevs
jimglen wrote:Subject wasn't changed that's 5 British fighters AT THE WEIGHT who beat Floyd...
very sorry jimglen:oops:
I didn`t realise you were serious about any of your names beating any of mine ...
(your not serious though are you
)
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 11 Jan 2010, 17:12
by granberry
jimglen wrote:well a look at the "Fabulous Floyd", a LW cum WW, in the past he would have been fighting as a WW cum MW - for starters!
Anyhow lets just look at the great little LW cum WW Eric Boon, whom in 1948 when at the end of his career goes a beauty against French great Robert Villimain and this is Fight of the year!
Villimain a couple of years later scares the _uck out of our all-time great MW's and is defo one of the greats at the weight!!
Boon was well past it and among some of the lads that gave him hell was his rival Arthur Danahar, now two great little fighters, Still not Britain's best at the weight and the next 3 kick Money's little ass!!!
Ted kid Lewis
Jackie kid Berg
Ernie Roderick
History IS A LONG time and the great fighters of the Greatest periods are by far the more superior bunch...
too many greats over the years to be discounted by Modern Hype and Media _ullshit and especially from one of the weakest periods in the sports long history!
Ted Kid Lewis
Jackie Kid Berg
Those are great names.
I like your comment -- "History is a long time."
As for the original question of this thread --
Bob Fitzsimmons holds the title of best pound for pound for the entire history of boxing.
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 11 Jan 2010, 23:58
by gobbles
jimglen wrote:well a look at the "Fabulous Floyd", a LW cum WW, in the past he would have been fighting as a WW cum MW - for starters!
Anyhow lets just look at the great little LW cum WW Eric Boon, whom in 1948 when at the end of his career goes a beauty against French great Robert Villimain and this is Fight of the year!
Villimain a couple of years later scares the _uck out of our all-time great MW's and is defo one of the greats at the weight!!
Boon was well past it and among some of the lads that gave him hell was his rival Arthur Danahar, now two great little fighters, Still not Britain's best at the weight and the next 3 kick Money's little ass!!!
Ted kid Lewis
Jackie kid Berg
Ernie Roderick
History IS A LONG time and the great fighters of the Greatest periods are by far the more superior bunch...
too many greats over the years to be discounted by Modern Hype and Media _ullshit and especially from one of the weakest periods in the sports long history!
Ernie Roderick would not have laid a glove on Mayweather. Him, Boon and Danahar were not really in the class as someone like Berg, who was really up with the really top class Americans. Some of those guys may have been tougher than Mayweather, but I don't see how they were nearly as skillful.
Also, no way was Wilde PFP No 1 as he shared his era with, among others Benny Leonard, Johnny Kilbane, Ted Kid Lewis, Jack Britton and Jack Dempsey.
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 00:03
by coghaugen11
There is no such thing... it's a subjective 'title'.
So none, British or non-British
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 00:04
by gobbles
jimglen wrote:Jock McAvoy, mid-late 30s was the most feared MW in the world.
denied a shot at the world's MW title, had one at L-HW against no less a fighter than J H Lewis and was the ONLY fighter ranked in the world's top 10 by the Ring at both MW and L-HW, 1938.
they never used that term then but McAvoy was in fact that at his weight, MW.
But McAvoy was beaten by Marcel Thil as well as twice by Len Harvey. And Thil was a middleweight, though no one would have him in any top 20 of all time.
Re: How many British boxers
Posted: 12 Jan 2010, 01:03
by Collins2000
gobbles wrote:jimglen wrote:Jock McAvoy, mid-late 30s was the most feared MW in the world.
denied a shot at the world's MW title, had one at L-HW against no less a fighter than J H Lewis and was the ONLY fighter ranked in the world's top 10 by the Ring at both MW and L-HW, 1938.
they never used that term then but McAvoy was in fact that at his weight, MW.
But McAvoy was beaten by Marcel Thil as well as twice by Len Harvey. And Thil was a middleweight, though no one would have him in any top 20 of all time.
These sort of things mean nothing to Jimbo as he doesn't take actual results into account.
