Kerry Kayes?

[harrison83]

guzmans manager brought in another nutritionist when they got to vegas and he was 147 when guzman landed when kerry got there he was 154 so its not kerrys fault he was only there the last 5 days, kerry done a great job bringing him down in 3 weeks from 168

[Poncey]

Kerry is a personel friend of mine, and he is without doubt the most knowledgable man in nutrition for sportsmen here , but as he says, you can take a horse to drink, but you cannot make him drink it, , its the same everywhere, you can ask a boxer if he has done his roadwork and he says yes, you have to take his word for it, even tho he might have been shagging a bird instead, you cannot moniter a guy all the time..
I know of a few fighters that dont tell the truth about training, including some boxers that was in a night club the day before a title fight!!!
If Kerry advises you, you take that advice and use it, dont cheat on it........

I'd take it further and say he's the most knowledgeable man in nutrition on the planet. Light years ahead of Schilstone that the yanks rave about.

What impresses me is his adaptability to other sports and disciplines. MMA fighters rate him, Bodybuilders rate him and Wrestlers rate him.

Terry, if you'll be at his event on April 17th down here, let me know.

[Mooresy]

It would depend on the boxers intelligent levels and self discipline. Designing a Nutritional plan and implementing a training schedule is something that could be done over the phone, via an email or in a single meeting.

Really, if the boxer is intelligent and discipline enough, a nutritionist/training scheduler, isn't needed THROUGHOUT the camp. Just really at the beginning. Really the fighters trainer, or the fighter himself, should be overseeing if things are on schedule.

Critical that a schedule is implemented early. Having it 3 weeks before a fight is taking the piss, quite surprised Kerry took the assignment on. Well, probably got well paid, but its unfairly done his reputation no good.

Exactly. No one to blame only Guzman. It's his body.

[housesecond]

So Kerry was helping him out but never actually saw the guy on the scales?
I hear what Eric's saying about the fighters lying about doing the road work, I've had it done to me. But the scales can't lie.

[stujones]

I apologise for saying Kerry got well paid for it. People here know him personally and I got put right in my place there... so sorry to Kerry there.

Still completely lost why he would take on a fighter with 3 weeks notice - all its done is, unjustly, in my opinion, been damaging to him a tadge (not much cause one blip doesn't make him bad), but it can be looked on as a "blip" and really with just 3 weeks notice, it shouldn't be.

[Mooresy]

I apologise for saying Kerry got well paid for it. People here know him personally and I got put right in my place there... so sorry to Kerry there.

Still completely lost why he would take on a fighter with 3 weeks notice - all its done is, unjustly, in my opinion, been damaging to him a tadge (not much cause one blip doesn't make him bad), but it can be looked on as a "blip" and really with just 3 weeks notice, it shouldn't be.

Kerry can't say no mate, i know him well and he's a good man, do anything for anyone, and that's why he helped him at short notice, coz Guzman was in trouble(HEAVY).

[Scrap]

Think I know Kerry good nature, But the trainer must have had scales He could use.

[JamesH]

Terry, if you'll be at his event on April 17th down here, let me know.

where can I find details on this? cheers

[Poncey]

April 17 th. Pompey Guildhall. I may pop along mate.

[JamesH]

April 17 th. Pompey Guildhall. I may pop along mate.

Ah d'aan sarf... mrs from Portsmouth so going to see if I can coincide our daughters trip to grannys, with this date fingers crossed.

cheers for the info

[Bomber 1]

Guzman only has himself to blame!! I went to Kerry when I started having trouble doing weight (Well I say trouble), He laughed when I was 7 pound over the weight with 4 weeks to go!! The guy is really amazing and I will openly hold my hands up and say before Kerry sat me down and explained it all I was saying "it's a load of $hite!!" I was not looking at the bigger picture, I used to say "SRL,Hagler,Hearns and Jones Jr didn't use all these things", BUT after being sat down and explained to about how the body works and what it needs and what you need to do to loose weight etc I soon had my head turned!! I'll be forever grateful to Kerry Kayes for that and you can be 100% sure that anyone that has followed Kerry's diet properly and I mean PROPERLY will benefit from it 100%.Joan Guzman has NOT followed kerry's plan that's just a fact.. I also know for a fact Ricky Hatton wouldn't have got to the heights he got without Kerry Kayes!! The man is a genius when it comes to cutting weight safely!!

[hurlock]

kerry kayes is the man :!:

if he gives you a plan & you dont stick to it ofcourse it doesnt work, guzman seem's a waste of space imo, he aint hungry he's over paid infact, his proffesionalism stinks :!:

he should stick with that bum beard.

[JamesH]

The other thing worth pointing out is that Kerry gives advice to novices who aren't in the spotlight too. I know of one young boxer who at the time had very little backing who was extremely grateful to Kerry for putting him on the right track.

[Poncey]

April 17 th. Pompey Guildhall. I may pop along mate.

Ah d'aan sarf... mrs from Portsmouth so going to see if I can coincide our daughters trip to grannys, with this date fingers crossed.

cheers for the info

Let me know if you make it mate. I'll try and meet up with you.

[JamesH]

April 17 th. Pompey Guildhall. I may pop along mate.

Ah d'aan sarf... mrs from Portsmouth so going to see if I can coincide our daughters trip to grannys, with this date fingers crossed.

cheers for the info

Let me know if you make it mate. I'll try and meet up with you.

Will do mate

[beagleboy]

stu Jones wrote "As for Lee Beard, I am really fascinated how he has fast tracked to some high profile fighters, really interesting how he does when a young amateur signs to work for him."

Do you mean like Adrian Gonzalez amateur now 5-o as a pro, Alfonso Vieyra amateur now 4-0 as a pro, Keran Maher amateur 3-0 as a pro ?

Thanks Lee.

I'd ditch the 'tasche, mate - it's not working.

[boxingfarmer30]

Firstly Kerry would not be involved with any fighter for financial gain.
Secondly Kerry can only advise, help and assist. He's not exactly gonna knock a fighter up in the morning and say "right, get on the scales"

If Kerry is being told a weight from a fighter then he accepts that weight and advises accordingly. Why would he doubt the fighter, he is there to help!

"You can take a horse to water...." That sums Kerry up for me.
He is THE most knowledgeable man in his field in my opinion, his supplements are the best on the market(again in my opinion and MANY others) and his help is priceless.

kerry helped me make weight for a title fight,in sept 2009.i'd never felt stronger in all my boxing career,he is also a true gentleman and since retirement i've carried on using his product's,they are the best on the market.shaun. DD

[Joe G]

Kerry Kayes phone goes none stop from people who are in all sorts of sports ranging from boxing , cycling , football and Bodybuilding asking for help at the last minute , does not have to be a champion it can be a novice or keep fitter he cant say no to helping people ! He always gives his opinion and advice its up to the people then if they listen and take heed , you cannot babysit grown adults 24/7 they have to take some responsibility for there actions.

[tonysaprano]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

[Bomber 1]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

The guy is a strength & conditioner!! He won't be working with boxing for much longer cos he's just fed up of it which is so very sad for the people who have never worked with him!!! Like I've said time and time again Ricky Hatton wouldn't have achieved the dizzy heights he did without Kerry Kayes and that is coming from the long time trainer Billy Graham!! The guy not only knows how to loose weight he also knows how to build muscle in the right places and the right times so it helps in your boxing work!! The guy is a genius and to be totally honest some of the comments directed at him are complete BS!! British cycling team, British Judo team and British boxing team all use him and his products!! They surely can't all be wrong can they??? ???

[Smigga]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

And you'd know this by working with him?

Ask Jamie Moore, Ricky Hatton, Matt Macklin, Matt Hatton, Michael Gomez.... Any fighter that's worked with him if they felt in better condition through using him, 9/10 will strongly agree.

As you say, anyone can lose weight. But.... Being strong at that weight is the key. Kerry masters that.

[Poncey]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

And you'd know this by working with him?

Ask Jamie Moore, Ricky Hatton, Matt Macklin, Matt Hatton, Michael Gomez.... Any fighter that's worked with him if they felt in better condition through using him, 9/10 will strongly agree.

As you say, anyone can lose weight. But.... Being strong at that weight is the key. Kerry masters that.

Mike Bisping, Rampage Jackson, Cheick Kongo....

[Jeff Thomas]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

Why wouldn't he know about conditioning for maximal performance? Is it only special boxing magical trainers who know about that? Actually knowing and understanding the mechanics of the body make him more qualified for conditioning then 99% of the shitty trainers out there.

Let me tell you, many boxing trainers are actually retarded in this regard and just copy the person before them. Who copied the person before them- and so on.... Problem been much time and effort is wasted in progressing the training ineffectively, and many outdated and counter productive exercises and idea's are used.

[Smigga]

He knows about losing weight cause his background is bodybuilders is it not?? He aint a conditioner, he wouldnt know the best way to get fit for a fight, no chance, maybe losing weight but thats it. Any bodybuilder in the land could tell you how to lose weight, it doesnt mean they could draw you up a good conditioning schedule to follow. The guys over-rated in my opinion, if you take kudos for the successes in boxing, you have to take the stick for the fuckups, or dont do either, simple.

And you'd know this by working with him?

Ask Jamie Moore, Ricky Hatton, Matt Macklin, Matt Hatton, Michael Gomez.... Any fighter that's worked with him if they felt in better condition through using him, 9/10 will strongly agree.

As you say, anyone can lose weight. But.... Being strong at that weight is the key. Kerry masters that.

Mike Bisping, Rampage Jackson, Cheick Kongo....

I'm not clued up on my MMA, didn't want to mention names that could be wrong
David Dunn, Blackburn Rovers FC, Aston Villa FC, and Steven Gerrard who I know uses CNP

[Jeff Thomas]

And you'd know this by working with him?

Ask Jamie Moore, Ricky Hatton, Matt Macklin, Matt Hatton, Michael Gomez.... Any fighter that's worked with him if they felt in better condition through using him, 9/10 will strongly agree.

As you say, anyone can lose weight. But.... Being strong at that weight is the key. Kerry masters that.

Mike Bisping, Rampage Jackson, Cheick Kongo....

I'm not clued up on my MMA, didn't want to mention names that could be wrong
David Dunn, Blackburn Rovers FC, Aston Villa FC, and Steven Gerrard who I know uses CNP

Shouldn't you be training smigga- 2,600 posts in two weeks is a bit excessive