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Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 04:03
by 'Frilla
Samoa's Afaese Fata looked sharp today, a prospect imo.
A very quick puncher, gets a little cocky at times(leaves his hands down), But he is a real talent.
I bet he will turn pro in NZ...
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 04:28
by adamheight
the scoring seems a bit out. flush shots aren't always scoring.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 04:31
by Craig14
Hounddawg wrote:I think I'm farked if we are betting on boxing......And boys don't forget the cycling and team sports like Hockey,Basketball, netball and pretty much nearly evrey other team sport, and apparently a pole vault world champ, Oh and we kick ass at shooting as well. Shitt boys we just kick the commonwealths ass when it comes to atheletes!!! GB have prepared well for the 2012 Olympics and they did finally beat Australia at the last Olympics and pretty sure it was the first time Australia wasn't in the top 5.
Hooper looked good. Apparently the Comm games are just as hard in the middleweight class as the Olympics or world am championship when the number 1 fighter in the world is from India???????????????
Yid what nationality are you, you live in NZ but don't claim to be NZ, are you an Aussie or Brit?
I'm a pom, and am in england at the mo. but fly out in 2 weeks thank the lord! I'm over in Brisbane between 19th nov. and 1st dec for the 1st ashes test so I'm hoping there be some pro boxing in either brizzie or the gold coast, been getting into amateur boxing during these commonwealth games, if there's no pro boxing during the 2 weeks I'm there do you know where best to find any amateur shows??
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 04:32
by Craig14
harshfriller wrote:Samoa's Afaese Fata looked sharp today, a prospect imo.
A very quick puncher, gets a little cocky at times(leaves his hands down), But he is a real talent.
I bet he will turn pro in NZ...
Yeah he looked good a right show-boater with a bit of a dig aswell, he soon put his hands up when the guy caught him in the final round though.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 04:33
by Craig14
adamheight wrote:the scoring seems a bit out. flush shots aren't always scoring.
the scoring is shocking.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 14:18
by 'Frilla
It seems like points are only rewarded when good straight rights are landed, ive seen some good body shots and stiff jabs that were not even noticed.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 14:19
by 'Frilla
yid14 wrote:harshfriller wrote:Samoa's Afaese Fata looked sharp today, a prospect imo.
A very quick puncher, gets a little cocky at times(leaves his hands down), But he is a real talent.
I bet he will turn pro in NZ...
Yeah he looked good a right show-boater with a bit of a dig aswell, he soon put his hands up when the guy caught him in the final round though.
Yep that left hook wobbled him, he then kept his hands up for the last round.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 19:28
by madball1982
harshfriller wrote:, ive seen some good body shots and stiff jabs that were not even noticed.
This is about the body shots, but an old trainer of mine actually told me not to punch to the body in amateur. He said very few judges will score body shots if at all. After my own fights and watching different amateur fighting (local, national, international etc) he was pretty much right. I don't understand why but it seems to be the way things are.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 19:54
by dberry
In the amateurs, punch straight to the head to score, punch to the body and hook and uppercut to slow down your opponent.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 20:10
by adamheight
dberry wrote:In the amateurs, punch straight to the head to score, punch to the body and hook and uppercut to slow down your opponent.
hey?
For a boxer to score points, he must hit the head or body of his opponent, above the belt, with the knuckles of his gloves.
Each ringside judge has a computer scoring button to press for each boxer, and three of the five must hit their button within one second of each other for the point to register.
When boxers are fighting up close, called infighting, a point is awarded to the boxer with the best of the exchanges.
Non-scoring blows include punches that infringe the rules, punches that use any part of the glove except the knuckles, and those which do not have the weight of the body or shoulder behind them.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 20:18
by amwsnw
I think with these games we can forget about any decent scoring to the body. I have seem some guys dominate tpo the body and not score a point for their entire match.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 20:33
by dberry
In Melbourne in the ams it's the same crap, they score straight punches to the gloves in front of the head but regularly fail to score good, solid hooks, uppercuts and body shots. I've also noticed tall, rangey guys can sit out at range and flick their hands to the gloves of their competitors and rack up points whilst shorter guys without a reach advantage will work their way in with solid straight punches to the face of their opponents, most often without score.
You don't need to show me that Adamheight, you're preaching to the converted, you need to show it to the amateur judges of the world mate.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 06 Oct 2010, 20:35
by Marlin
good call daz
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 02:39
by adamheight
dberry wrote:In Melbourne in the ams it's the same crap, they score straight punches to the gloves in front of the head but regularly fail to score good, solid hooks, uppercuts and body shots. I've also noticed tall, rangey guys can sit out at range and flick their hands to the gloves of their competitors and rack up points whilst shorter guys without a reach advantage will work their way in with solid straight punches to the face of their opponents, most often without score.
You don't need to show me that Adamheight, you're preaching to the converted, you need to show it to the amateur judges of the world mate.
i wasnt mate. it was a general FYI
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 03:37
by caveman
its that mongrel computer scoring system,body shots dont count,yet i have seen ko's with body shots, boxers have to train to the computer, its crap i reckon
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 03:55
by dberry
adamheight wrote:dberry wrote:In Melbourne in the ams it's the same crap, they score straight punches to the gloves in front of the head but regularly fail to score good, solid hooks, uppercuts and body shots. I've also noticed tall, rangey guys can sit out at range and flick their hands to the gloves of their competitors and rack up points whilst shorter guys without a reach advantage will work their way in with solid straight punches to the face of their opponents, most often without score.
You don't need to show me that Adamheight, you're preaching to the converted, you need to show it to the amateur judges of the world mate.
i wasnt mate. it was a general FYI
Yeah mate, I knew you didn't mean it like that, I didn't take it like that, I just saw it as an opening to get up on the soap box
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 03:59
by Rogue
Didn't a punch to the nuts score and warrant a count in the last Olympics?
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 07:31
by madball1982
adamheight wrote:dberry wrote:In the amateurs, punch straight to the head to score, punch to the body and hook and uppercut to slow down your opponent.
hey?
For a boxer to score points, he must hit the head or body of his opponent, above the belt, with the knuckles of his gloves.
Each ringside judge has a computer scoring button to press for each boxer, and three of the five must hit their button within one second of each other for the point to register.
When boxers are fighting up close, called infighting, a point is awarded to the boxer with the best of the exchanges.
Non-scoring blows include punches that infringe the rules, punches that use any part of the glove except the knuckles, and those which do not have the weight of the body or shoulder behind them.
Everyone but those who judge amateur bouts seem to know this haha
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 16:35
by adamheight
HOOPER (aus) v OGOGO (eng) ....@ middleweight
both very good fighters. ogogo was on celebrity big brother in england last year.
the session starts at 11pm tonight but i think theres 3 or 4 fights fights before it.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 07 Oct 2010, 22:52
by Hounddawg
Cant wait for this Adam, if i knew when it was being televised i would have posted it, very early exit for one of the 2 better middleweights.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 08 Oct 2010, 00:40
by adamheight
the session starts at 630pm delhi time (which 11pm qld time, 1200am syd time and i guess 9pm WA time.)
only 3 fights before it.
if u have foxtel it will be on one of the "delhi" channels
Middle Weight (75kg) Men 1/8 Eliminations Bout 110
DMA - BLAIZE Albert
vs
NAM - NASHIVELA Elias
Middle Weight (75kg) Men 1/8 Eliminations Bout 111
IND - SINGH Vijender
vs
KEN - OMBAKA Dick
Middle Weight (75kg) Men 1/8 Eliminations Bout 112
MRI - OLIVIER Louis
vs
NGR - LUKMON Lawal
Middle Weight (75kg) Men 1/8 Eliminations Bout 113
AUS - HOOPER Damien
vs
ENG - OGOGO Anthony
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 08 Oct 2010, 00:44
by adamheight
another good aus v eng match up (non boxing) is the womens 50m butterfly final tonight.
halsall(eng) and kukla(aus). theyre both paying $3.00 for the gold
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 08 Oct 2010, 07:23
by madball1982
I'm sure there's an official channel but I found a youtube user who seems to be putting up all the fights, search 'superboxmma', if it's not all the fights it's a substantial amount.
Hooper definitely looked like he was playing around with his first opponent.
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 08 Oct 2010, 09:30
by Craig14
Go the Pom - OGOGO,go
Re: C'wealth Games - Boxing
Posted: 08 Oct 2010, 09:39
by Craig14
The judges have been shocking in this one!