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So no one knows when and where the boxing press conference is, only the iphone application one ???

You're completely right lefty. I was chatting to one this morning who told me that the Klitschko presser will get a full turnout but that a lot of the 'big' national writers are blanking Haye's do because there's nothing to be reported, if you like.

A couple of weeks back Wayne Rooney did his first press work since Brassgate, on the back of a new ES Sports game with his name on it. People swallowed the blatant product plug just to get a few minutes with Shrek, who hadn't been doing interviews. But Haye and this iPhone thing is a completely different kettle of fish. He's been doing a lot of press work recently anyway and the big papers don't actually need to speak to him this week, least of all about a bloody iPhone app.

Sky Sports News will no doubt be there, give the gadget a plug, and so it will be job done as far as David and Adam are concerned. But is it newsworthy? Is it feck. Tomorrow's sports pages will be full of Rooney and Champions League, they don't need David. He might have stood a better chance had he staged his conference on Thursday, like FW has for Klitschko-Chisora — that was a move born of experience and knowledge of the way the newspaper industry works. Boxing can never compete with football, that's a fact.

think you guys read to much into what threads are on here, haye harrison sold out in days and the thread asking if anyones going to watch del boy in germany gets about 12 replys !
i wonder what odds we will get for chisora and harrison to both win ?

Nothing about the Wlad conference on FW website. Any one know where and when, and if open to the public?

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:An observation: Funny how there's a thread about this press conference both nothing about the David Haye one tomorrow. Do you think anything can be read into that?

is david haye having a fight.

last time i looked he was fighting a trialhorse who can't beat irish cab drivers.

I love how Audley Harrison's opponents - and particularly Rogan - are often referred to by their day jobs, as if that makes them lesser boxers. Probably 90% of boxers have second jobs, as it's only the top level who earn enough from boxing to make a living from that alone.

When Audley was on the way up and all the tabloids were sniping at him (typically in articles written by football reporters), they always trotted out the line about the opponent's second job - "butcher" Mark Krence, "doorman" Dominic Negus, etc, as if they were just members of the public he'd hauled into the ring to fight. But then put Rogan and Krence in with Skelton and the day jobs become part of the "human interest" angle to the fight, and part of the opponent's "character".

You can apply the same methodology to the majority of any fighter's record, given that, as I said, most boxers earn a living elsewhere. Hell, even some high-level boxers do. You can bet if Rendall Munroe pulls off the upset this weekend, him being a binman will be used as a positive aspect to the story (and rightly so), rather than as a criticism against Nishioka. Back to Rogan, him being a taxi driver WAS used as a positive angle in his case when he beat Harrison - but, of course, at the same time it has remained a stick to beat Audley with.

I can see it now. Harrison beats "Versace model" David Haye...

chinny wrote:Nothing about the Wlad conference on FW website. Any one know where and when, and if open to the public?

It's an RSVP chinny, not open to the public

MightyWarrior wrote:

The Sun

DERECK CHISORA insists he can beat world heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitschko with a little help from some boxing greats.
Del Boy takes on IBF and WBO title-holder Klitschko in Mannheim, Germany on December 11 as one of the biggest underdogs of all time.

The London-based star has been given the chance against Klitschko, despite having just 14 professional fights, no amateur pedigree to shout about and no European experience.

Wasn't Chisora an ABA champion?

Chisora certainly did win an ABA. He won two I think, he won a novice title then the open senior title.

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote: The Sun

DERECK CHISORA insists he can beat world heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitschko with a little help from some boxing greats.
Del Boy takes on IBF and WBO title-holder Klitschko in Mannheim, Germany on December 11 as one of the biggest underdogs of all time.

The London-based star has been given the chance against Klitschko, despite having just 14 professional fights, no amateur pedigree to shout about and no European experience.

Wasn't Chisora an ABA champion?

The Sun having no boxing pedigree to shout about is more accurate.

jessi wrote:think you guys read to much into what threads are on here, haye harrison sold out in days and the thread asking if anyones going to watch del boy in germany gets about 12 replys !
i wonder what odds we will get for chisora and harrison to both win ?

To be fair Manchester is a lot easier for people to get to than Mannehiem!

JamesH wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote: The Sun

DERECK CHISORA insists he can beat world heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitschko with a little help from some boxing greats.
Del Boy takes on IBF and WBO title-holder Klitschko in Mannheim, Germany on December 11 as one of the biggest underdogs of all time.

The London-based star has been given the chance against Klitschko, despite having just 14 professional fights, no amateur pedigree to shout about and no European experience.

Wasn't Chisora an ABA champion?

The Sun having no boxing pedigree to shout about is more accurate.

i actually enjoy allegedly and colin harts columns

Jesus wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Carlos-Wigan wrote: Wasn't Chisora an ABA champion?

The Sun having no boxing pedigree to shout about is more accurate.

i actually enjoy allegedly and colin harts columns

Very pleased for you mate. What about "Sun boxing expert" Pat Sheehan?

Carlos-Wigan wrote:

MightyWarrior wrote:

The Sun

DERECK CHISORA insists he can beat world heavyweight champ Wladimir Klitschko with a little help from some boxing greats.
Del Boy takes on IBF and WBO title-holder Klitschko in Mannheim, Germany on December 11 as one of the biggest underdogs of all time.

The London-based star has been given the chance against Klitschko, despite having just 14 professional fights, no amateur pedigree to shout about and no European experience.

Wasn't Chisora an ABA champion?

They must mean on the International stage. Their point is that Chisora isn't proven outside of the UK.

JamesH wrote:

Jesus wrote:

JamesH wrote:
The Sun having no boxing pedigree to shout about is more accurate.

i actually enjoy allegedly and colin harts columns

Very pleased for you mate. What about "Sun boxing expert" Pat Sheehan?

come on if you want a good detailed boxing analyst your not going to look in a newspaper are you?

remember the sun comparing haye to ali after his win over valuev?

JamesH wrote:

Jesus wrote:

JamesH wrote:
The Sun having no boxing pedigree to shout about is more accurate.

i actually enjoy allegedly and colin harts columns

Very pleased for you mate. What about "Sun boxing expert" Pat Sheehan?

That's what is known as an oxymoron mate :)

IPhone apps press conference?! FFS

Captain Hook wrote:That's what is known as an oxymoron mate :)

Haha very true

Jesus wrote:come on if you want a good detailed boxing analyst your not going to look in a newspaper are you?

remember the sun comparing haye to ali after his win over valuev?

No you are not going to look in a newspaper for that, neither did I suggest you should. What I would say is that if you are the newspaper a readership of millions, then your 'boxing expert' should have half a clue about boxing, which is not the case.

JamesH wrote:

Jesus wrote:come on if you want a good detailed boxing analyst your not going to look in a newspaper are you?

remember the sun comparing haye to ali after his win over valuev?

No you are not going to look in a newspaper for that, neither did I suggest you should. What I would say is that if you are the newspaper a readership of millions, then your 'boxing expert' should have half a clue about boxing, which is not the case.

Jesus wrote:

JamesH wrote:

Jesus wrote:come on if you want a good detailed boxing analyst your not going to look in a newspaper are you?

remember the sun comparing haye to ali after his win over valuev?

No you are not going to look in a newspaper for that, neither did I suggest you should. What I would say is that if you are the newspaper a readership of millions, then your 'boxing expert' should have half a clue about boxing, which is not the case.

Errhh ok then. Well done you.

JamesH wrote:

Jesus wrote:

JamesH wrote: No you are not going to look in a newspaper for that, neither did I suggest you should. What I would say is that if you are the newspaper a readership of millions, then your 'boxing expert' should have half a clue about boxing, which is not the case.

Errhh ok then. Well done you.

That makes more sense than most of your posts.

oliverfennell wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

Glyn Leach wrote:An observation: Funny how there's a thread about this press conference both nothing about the David Haye one tomorrow. Do you think anything can be read into that?

is david haye having a fight.

last time i looked he was fighting a trialhorse who can't beat irish cab drivers.

I love how Audley Harrison's opponents - and particularly Rogan - are often referred to by their day jobs, as if that makes them lesser boxers. Probably 90% of boxers have second jobs, as it's only the top level who earn enough from boxing to make a living from that alone.

When Audley was on the way up and all the tabloids were sniping at him (typically in articles written by football reporters), they always trotted out the line about the opponent's second job - "butcher" Mark Krence, "doorman" Mark Krence, etc, as if they were just members of the public he'd hauled into the ring to fight. But then put Rogan and Krence in with Skelton and the day jobs become part of the "human interest" angle to the fight, and part of the opponent's "character".

You can apply the same methodology to the majority of any fighter's record, given that, as I said, most boxers earn a living elsewhere. Hell, even some high-level boxers do. You can bet if Rendall Munroe pulls off the upset this weekend, him being a binman will be used as a positive aspect to the story (and rightly so), rather than as a criticism against Nishioka. Back to Rogan, him being a taxi driver WAS used as a positive angle in his case when he beat Harrison - but, of course, at the same time it has remained a stick to beat Audley with.

I can see it now. Harrison beats "Versace model" David Haye...

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the truth wrote:

oliverfennell wrote:

hitman_hatton1 wrote: is david haye having a fight.

last time i looked he was fighting a trialhorse who can't beat irish cab drivers.

I love how Audley Harrison's opponents - and particularly Rogan - are often referred to by their day jobs, as if that makes them lesser boxers. Probably 90% of boxers have second jobs, as it's only the top level who earn enough from boxing to make a living from that alone.

When Audley was on the way up and all the tabloids were sniping at him (typically in articles written by football reporters), they always trotted out the line about the opponent's second job - "butcher" Mark Krence, "doorman" Mark Krence, etc, as if they were just members of the public he'd hauled into the ring to fight. But then put Rogan and Krence in with Skelton and the day jobs become part of the "human interest" angle to the fight, and part of the opponent's "character".

You can apply the same methodology to the majority of any fighter's record, given that, as I said, most boxers earn a living elsewhere. Hell, even some high-level boxers do. You can bet if Rendall Munroe pulls off the upset this weekend, him being a binman will be used as a positive aspect to the story (and rightly so), rather than as a criticism against Nishioka. Back to Rogan, him being a taxi driver WAS used as a positive angle in his case when he beat Harrison - but, of course, at the same time it has remained a stick to beat Audley with.

I can see it now. Harrison beats "Versace model" David Haye...

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^^ this - as per the norm' with oliver.

oliverfennell wrote:"butcher" Mark Krence, "doorman" Mark Krence

How many jobs was Krencey holding down?

Soon Wlad will be hanging around the local boxing gyms looking for possible up-an-comers.

A fantastic performance for the British/commonwealth title against Sam Sexton leads to a world title shot against champ in his very next fight.,,,,