Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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dbflex wrote:Just spoken to Robert Smith – this fight is 100 per cent NOT going to happen and this was decided two weeks ago. The Board said maybe there was a breakdown in communication between HS and the foreign agent but it was made clear to HS on Saturday that it cannot happen and they should not advertise it.
May be it was a bit of a ploy to try and generate some ticket sales?

I was almost half tempted to go......
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Botha is in poor shape and is boxing just for the money. Te BAord knocked back Joe Bugner to face Scott Welch due to Bugner being over 40 and the fight took place in Germany. Botha is a shadow of his former self and doesn't try too hard anymore. Good call by the Board and beating the current Botha wouldn't tell us too much about Tyson Fury in my opinion.

Would be interesating to see if Holyfield wanted to come over as to what the Board would say.
I think it would also be a NO.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by bennie »

I watched Holyfield's 'fight' with Sherman Williams on youtube and it's hilarious, a gallery of creaking old men. Holy bails out with a cut under the accidental butt thing, when he is clearly losing; John David Jackson, who looks like The wild Man of Borneo and trains Williams, stands there and takes a long look at Holy's cut to satisfy himself; Christ, even Mike Weaver is knocking about somewhere.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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On what grounds was he rejected? It can't simply be age, because if he's passed medically fit then that would be a case of restricting his trade. Nor can it be considered a mismatch, even if Fury would be a comfortable favourite.

I remember when Bugner was denied a licence for the Welch fight; BN editorial (under a different staff line-up) disagreed with it under the headline "Let the old guy fight".
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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I have to admit Hennessy has done a great job promoting Fury, they've brought him along perfectly. Though I do think he will be found wanting at Domestic level
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Fury vs Botha...

Is this for one of those weight loss programmes?

'Fit Camp', 'Biggest Loser' etc etc
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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jessi wrote:
lefty wrote:Hennessys policy at the moment seems to be to have fury fight aload of shot worn fighters!lol.Why dont they just put him in with the likes of price,dallas,etc to see if he is good enough.
because they wont fight him.
Thats not true, We have try to make Price vs Fury and are still willing to make this fight, Would sit down with Mick Hennessy and work out a deal for this fight.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Heavyweight sensation Tyson Fury's impending showdown with Frans Botha has been stonewalled by the British Boxing Board of Control.

The board rejected Botha as a legitimate opponent, following poor form in recent outings.

Hennessy Sports will seek a new opponent in wake of the decision.
What is so bad about his recent form?

Francois Botha: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2011&m=01
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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I presumed Botha had retired years ago
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Errrr, Fury is still ONLY English champ, so this fight's a good one for him. People might want him pushed a long at a speedy rate but he's only a baby. He should probably concentrate on fighters like this for the next year before moving up at the start of 2012. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Holyfield in the next 18 months too.

If Evander stills alive, nevermind fighting.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Dioufy wrote:Errrr, Fury is still ONLY English champ, so this fight's a good one for him. People might want him pushed a long at a speedy rate but he's only a baby. He should probably concentrate on fighters like this for the next year before moving up at the start of 2012. I wouldn't mind seeing him fight Holyfield in the next 18 months too.

If Evander stills alive, nevermind fighting.
After saturday I don't think Holyfield should be allowed in the ring ever again. Shame, he shouldn't really be mentioned in the same thread as Tyson Fury.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Has there been any official word that this is off?

If the self-styled 'Flexecutioner' says it is, then I'm sure he's right. Just wondered if it has been reported on yet. I put the press release up on the news site and obviously, if it's wrong, an explanation needs to go up.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Has there been any official word that this is off?

If the self-styled 'Flexecutioner' says it is, then I'm sure he's right. Just wondered if it has been reported on yet. I put the press release up on the news site and obviously, if it's wrong, an explanation needs to go up.
Off? It was never on by all accounts.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by THEBUTCH »

Fury is still just a novice, albeit a talented one who has achieved more compared to his fellow British prospects/contenders (Chisora apart).

Botha is years past his best, but would still probably be a better opponent that any they are digging up for Price, Dallas, Larry O, Towers etc. I'm sure he could still teach Fury a trick or two. Frans was always durable and at this level should be able to give Fury some rounds. Fury's not world class yet, so why the Board knocked this one back and continue to approve some of the shit they normally do is beyond me (unless they come up with a genuine reason in the meantime).
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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I'm also a bit baffled as to why the board knocked it back. I mean this is Tyson Fury we're talking about here, not Mike Tyson. It's hardly a mismatch. In fact I'd say it's a good fight for Tyson at this stage.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Horse wrote:
Heavyweight sensation Tyson Fury's impending showdown with Frans Botha has been stonewalled by the British Boxing Board of Control.

The board rejected Botha as a legitimate opponent, following poor form in recent outings.

Hennessy Sports will seek a new opponent in wake of the decision.
What is so bad about his recent form?

Francois Botha: http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2011&m=01
Exactly my question. Of course his form is poor compared to his earlier years, but that's the same for any fortysomething boxer. Even so, he's hardly been displaying any worse form than the majority of opponents heavyweight prospects face on the way up.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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black panther wrote:I'm also a bit baffled as to why the board knocked it back. I mean this is Tyson Fury we're talking about here, not Mike Tyson. It's hardly a mismatch. In fact I'd say it's a good fight for Tyson at this stage.
I agree.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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King Geedorah wrote:
Ian 'Mr' McNeilly wrote:Has there been any official word that this is off?

If the self-styled 'Flexecutioner' says it is, then I'm sure he's right. Just wondered if it has been reported on yet. I put the press release up on the news site and obviously, if it's wrong, an explanation needs to go up.
Robert Smith confirmed it earlier today: "I don't know why the fight was announced." Reckons it was never a going concern as per Dan's warning.
They knock it back for Price before this fight was put out as made.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by Londonirish »

I hear Paolo Vidoz name has been mentioned now....
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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Londonirish wrote:I hear Paolo Vidoz name has been mentioned now....
Now I think Botha should be more "passable" than Vidoz.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by keithmoonhangover »

billy bessey wrote:terrible knocking that back week in week out there are far worse mismatches in britain with journeymen having absolutely no chance of beating up and comers i think it would be an excellent test for fury and a good name to have on hes record thats a bollocks decision to turn that fight down
x2

The decision is a joke.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by oliverfennell »

stujones wrote:
Londonirish wrote:I hear Paolo Vidoz name has been mentioned now....
Now I think Botha should be more "passable" than Vidoz.
Absolutely.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by crusader »

Shit decision imo. How are all these Latvians and Africans approved then?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

Post by leforge »

If people read maloney promotions post botha was turned down for price who less experinced than fury!
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Re: Tyson Fury vs Francois Botha Wembley Arena February 19.

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I think fury should fight sexton????
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