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Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:12
by smoothmoves
Wales wrote:£15 to see Fury sparked... hmmm...
When you put it like that....

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:14
by Glyn Leach
They're definitely talking about it iwz and it might well happen - not a bad match for someone in Fury's position, possibly a bit too ambitious, but Rahman is a name and Sky are desperate to make the Khan show PPV worthy. Difference between Rahman and the other fighters you mention is that they're not scheduled to feature in the chief support — and Sky know they need a good support because the main event isn't strong enough on it's own. Banking on Rahman is risky under those circumstances.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:23
by Final round
Tyson will need to be sharp on the night I bet he can't take Rahman's power!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:24
by leforge
Glyn Leach wrote:They're definitely talking about it iwz and it might well happen - not a bad match for someone in Fury's position, possibly a bit too ambitious, but Rahman is a name and Sky are desperate to make the Khan show PPV worthy. Difference between Rahman and the other fighters you mention is that they're not scheduled to feature in the chief support — and Sky know they need a good support because the main event isn't strong enough on it's own. Banking on Rahman is risky under those circumstances.
Why did the Hattons put on such a weak undercard?

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:26
by Scottrf
leforge wrote:Why did the Hattons put on such a weak undercard?
Cheaper. Have been dropouts too but was never great.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:41
by Glyn Leach
Not actually their show, is it. Understandable if Hattons want to keep their best stuff for their own shows otherwise those shows will be criticised.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:43
by leforge
Glyn Leach wrote:Not actually their show, is it. Understandable if Hattons want to keep their best stuff for their own shows otherwise those shows will be criticised.
Fair enough but why is Adam Smith allowing such a poor undercard again to ppv?

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:50
by Glyn Leach
That is the question leforge — and I think he might be wondering that himself as we speak. How he decides to answer it will say a lot about him.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 08:59
by leforge
Glyn Leach wrote:That is the question leforge — and I think he might be wondering that himself as we speak. How he decides to answer it will say a lot about him.
He was lucky that Murray fight was competitive too. He needs to make sure more competitive fights happen on sky.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:27
by Glyn Leach
Macho, is it a good enough fight for you to consider the card PPV-worthy?

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:38
by Glyn Leach
Fair enough mate. Perhaps I've become a little too accepting of PPV on one level — for fights that are of genuine national interest (Bruno-Tyson, Hatton-Floyd/Pacman, Haye-Klitschko) I don't mind. But I see no reason for fights to be made PPV just because they are good matches (the 21 May show) or because they feature a star name (Khan in this case). Fury-Rahman would be a bonus, but in my opinion this show should not be PPV anyway — the man in the street doesn't care about Khan-McCloskey (Belfast streets being the exception).

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:39
by leforge
Glyn Leach wrote:Fair enough mate. Perhaps I've become a little too accepting of PPV on one level — for fights that are of genuine national interest (Bruno-Tyson, Hatton-Floyd/Pacman, Haye-Klitschko) I don't mind. But I see no reason for fights to be made PPV just because they are good matches (the 21 May show) or because they feature a star name (Khan in this case). Fury-Rahman would be a bonus, but in my opinion this show should not be PPV anyway — the man in the street doesn't care about Khan-McCloskey (Belfast streets being the exception).
Is Khan really pay per view anyway?

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:42
by orbtastic
leforge wrote:
Glyn Leach wrote:Fair enough mate. Perhaps I've become a little too accepting of PPV on one level — for fights that are of genuine national interest (Bruno-Tyson, Hatton-Floyd/Pacman, Haye-Klitschko) I don't mind. But I see no reason for fights to be made PPV just because they are good matches (the 21 May show) or because they feature a star name (Khan in this case). Fury-Rahman would be a bonus, but in my opinion this show should not be PPV anyway — the man in the street doesn't care about Khan-McCloskey (Belfast streets being the exception).
Is Khan really pay per view anyway?
It's on SKY PPV, that's all you need to know.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:45
by Glyn Leach
King Geedorah wrote:Good old fashioned heavyweight match. Prospect against a former title holder who has seen better days. The glory days of the division were built on these types of matches. I like it, I love it. Hope the BBBoC sanction Rahman as he's been active and can still pick a nice jab and right hand.

I like this, I love it.
Retro, Bruno-Tillis style!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:46
by JC
freddydoesdallas wrote:It's still a disappointing fight for me. There are plenty of domestic rivals for him to face, no need to import has-beens and also-rans.

Price
Chisora
Sexton
Rogan
Even Audley
Price - is supposed to be fighting Mcdermott
Chisora -has been ordered to fight Fury in July
Sexton - is he going into international prizefighter?
Rogan - is injured
Even Audley - try selling that to Sky after last time

From whats available I think Rahman is a great choice for this stage in Fury's career

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:49
by Glyn Leach
leforge wrote:Is Khan really pay per view anyway?
I don't think any fighter is PPV on his own, depends on the match. When you look at the next two Sky have scheduled, they've split those requirements — they make Khan a PPV because they deem him a star and they make 21 May PPV because the matches are very competitive. The right formula should be genuine stars in very competitive fights.

I'd accept Khan-Bradley, but that would be the first PPV-worthy fight of Khan's career in my opinion.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:54
by Tommy Gunn13
Its a good fight in my eyes..Rahman might be past his best but if Fury is to step his career up to the next level he should be beating Rahman..Definitly a interesting fight,but....i still wont be buying it!!

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:56
by Glyn Leach
King Geedorah wrote:Or stylee, as the yoof of today would have it. We've got to be 'down'. We need to represent. There's far too many chapz on here not doing their spellingz with a Z. Boxrec's street slang needs to step up. It ain't all gravy.
I wanted to say stylee but felt silly 'bro'

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 09:57
by freddydoesdallas
MachoMan09 wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:It's still a disappointing fight for me.
Hasim Rahman vs Tyson Fury is not a 'disappointing fight'. It would be a significant step up and, were he to take it, would build Fury's stock, with me, no end.
Each to their own but i'm fed up with the domestic heavies fighting foreigners when they've got their own scene to clear up.

It's a weak main event with poor support and definitely not PPV

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:04
by Horse
Why would the BBBofC turn this fight down?

It seems like a good fight to me.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:06
by oliverfennell
Glyn Leach wrote:
leforge wrote:Is Khan really pay per view anyway?
I don't think any fighter is PPV on his own.
Agreed. MMA and wrestling have the right idea in that their PPVs are packaged as whole events rather than sold on the strength of one match. The Magnificent 7 was in that vein, and while none of the individual matches were PPV-worthy, as a whole package I'd say it was infinitely better value than the usual boxing PPV format.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:07
by oliverfennell
King Geedorah wrote:Good old fashioned heavyweight match. Prospect against a former title holder who has seen better days. The glory days of the division were built on these types of matches. I like it, I love it. Hope the BBBoC sanction Rahman as he's been active and can still pick a nice jab and right hand.

I like this, I love it.
Yes, it's a decent enough match. A lot of people disagreed with Botha being knocked back by the board, and I'm sure Rahman's in better nick than Botha.

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 10:45
by merseybox
undercard is falling apart?

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 11:47
by Alba
Dont see why folk think Rachman would be jnocked back the board ges only 38 and has a winning run of a few fights ...

Re: Tyson Fury vs Hasim Rahman on the Khan card?

Posted: 04 Apr 2011, 11:49
by Glyn Leach
He's got a world ranking too, but you never know