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If this remains a PPV - well it makes the Amir Khan "farce" (as described a certain promoter) look like a good promotion. It will stink of double standards by Sky. McCloskey vs Khan was AGREED by Sky as PPV worthy and that fight stayed on.
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orbtastic wrote:predictable
yeah...for some reason i had a feeling this was gonna happen.

surely the best option would have been to declared it vacant and got a late replacement in to fight for the title on saturday?
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Chambers2 wrote:Any reasons been stated as to why he's pulled out??

It's the most frustrating sport in the World, gotta feel for Cleverly after all the hard work he'll have put in
Cut in training apparently, has he even been in the UK to promote the fight at all?

I was looking forward to this one far more than Groves vs Degale - Sky have done a remarkable job to hype that as an even money 50:50 fight - insinuating that Groves has his number and getting to Degale. Performance wise of late it would suggest a slight gulf in class.
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apophenic wrote:
orbtastic wrote:predictable
yeah...for some reason i had a feeling this was gonna happen.

surely the best option would have been to declared it vacant and got a late replacement in to fight for the title on saturday?
Maybe if Clev wasn't already interim champ. It's rare (can't think of a time) that the title is declared vacant if there's already an interim champ, they usually just upgrade them.

Odd that the WBO have stripped him, maybe they're just bored of waiting for him to fight.
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stujones wrote:
Chambers2 wrote:Any reasons been stated as to why he's pulled out??

It's the most frustrating sport in the World, gotta feel for Cleverly after all the hard work he'll have put in
Cut in training apparently, has he even been in the UK to promote the fight at all?
He was at one of the press conferences, not sure where it was but he was definitely there.
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Chambers2 wrote:Any reasons been stated as to why he's pulled out??

It's the most frustrating sport in the World, gotta feel for Cleverly after all the hard work he'll have put in
He's pulled out because he sustained an eye injury 10 days ago and hoped it would heal but it hasn't.
That's the news on ssn anyway :TU:
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orbtastic wrote:
apophenic wrote:
orbtastic wrote:predictable
yeah...for some reason i had a feeling this was gonna happen.

surely the best option would have been to declared it vacant and got a late replacement in to fight for the title on saturday?
Maybe if Clev wasn't already interim champ. It's rare (can't think of a time) that the title is declared vacant if there's already an interim champ, they usually just upgrade them.

Odd that the WBO have stripped him, maybe they're just bored of waiting for him to fight.
they seem to have made their decision very quickly...unless of course they were already aware of the situation..
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second pull out at short notice when he's due to be fighting on foreign soil for Braehmer, the WBO do right to strip him, it's unfortunate that every title that Clev has won has been a vacant one, but that's beyond his control, hopefully he'll still get to fight on saturday against someone half decent.
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Don't wish to tempt fate or anything, but if Clev does defend his title on Saturday and something goes wrong - shortest world title reign in history?

I'm sure everything will be okay, and he'll have a long reign - would have been one for Norris McWhirter (RIP) to answer.
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Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:
orbtastic wrote:
apophenic wrote: yeah...for some reason i had a feeling this was gonna happen.

surely the best option would have been to declared it vacant and got a late replacement in to fight for the title on saturday?
Maybe if Clev wasn't already interim champ. It's rare (can't think of a time) that the title is declared vacant if there's already an interim champ, they usually just upgrade them.

Odd that the WBO have stripped him, maybe they're just bored of waiting for him to fight.
They said all along that unless he fought he was gonna be stripped, based on his previous pull outs.

Christ knows where this leaves our trip - 4 coaches heading up from South Wales......
whens that swansea play off game?? you could always hang around for that and get behind your fellow countrymen!

:TU:
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The_Don1 wrote:second pull out at short notice when he's due to be fighting on foreign soil for Braehmer, the WBO do right to strip him, it's unfortunate that every title that Clev has won has been a vacant one, but that's beyond his control, hopefully he'll still get to fight on saturday against someone half decent.
It is a disgrace, but as there were virtually no reports on his training, no quotes from him coming out to defend his title etc then hopefully a good operator has been placed on stand-by for Saturday night.
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Bollocks! Terrible news will the card still be PPV?
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stujones wrote:Don't wish to tempt fate or anything, but if Clev does defend his title on Saturday and something goes wrong - shortest world title reign in history?

I'm sure everything will be okay, and he'll have a long reign - would have been one for Norris McWhirter (RIP) to answer.
Yeah that’s why I think it woulda been better to let clev vs whoever to fight it out in the ring for the title rather than just awarding it to him….

Must be a strange psychological situation to be in to have all the build up focussing on winning the title…on ripping it away from the champ…only to have it awarded to you and your shot at the title turn into a defence of the title…
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You would think any top light-heavy starved of opportunities would train for the same date as Braehmer with his history. We all saw it coming. Im going on Saturday and am not even that dissapointed as i more than half expected it.
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Tris Dixon has tweeted that he has spoke to Warren and he still plans to go ahead on Box office!

No way can a British title fight headline a PPV supported by a late replacement for Cleverly. If SKY pulled the plug on Khan being Box office then they should do the same here. Even Bellew or Enzo Mac wouldn't bring this up to a PPV unfortunately.

Such a shame for Cleverly who must have been working so hard for his shot.
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It really can be THE most frustrating sport in the world at times boxing can.

There ought to be some way of getting either a reduction on the ticket or a refund in the event of stuff like this happening as lots of people would have bought tickets to see that fight and while I'm sure there are terms and conditions which prevent any refund/reduction people are not getting what they originally paid for.

Am sure Warren won't give two hoots given that most of the tickets are already sold and many of the PPV's already bought but there should be some mechanism in place here to protect the fans.
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WBO mandatories for the next 10 years?

Let's hope not...
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doctorboxing wrote:Tris Dixon has tweeted that he has spoke to Warren and he still plans to go ahead on Box office!

No way can a British title fight headline a PPV supported by a late replacement for Cleverly. If SKY pulled the plug on Khan being Box office then they should do the same here. Even Bellew or Enzo Mac wouldn't bring this up to a PPV unfortunately.

Such a shame for Cleverly who must have been working so hard for his shot.
degale / groves alone is a far more interesting and potentially entertaining fight than khan / mcloskey ever was...
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doctorboxing wrote:Tris Dixon has tweeted that he has spoke to Warren and he still plans to go ahead on Box office!

No way can a British title fight headline a PPV supported by a late replacement for Cleverly. If SKY pulled the plug on Khan being Box office then they should do the same here. Even Bellew or Enzo Mac wouldn't bring this up to a PPV unfortunately.

Such a shame for Cleverly who must have been working so hard for his shot.
I can't see Frank risking Bellewyet, because he can make that in to a really big fight!!
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freddydoesdallas wrote:I don't think anyone will be overly suprised by this. Has it been confirmed anywhere else yet?
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/saturd ... -pulls-out
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Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:
stujones wrote:Don't wish to tempt fate or anything, but if Clev does defend his title on Saturday and something goes wrong - shortest world title reign in history?

I'm sure everything will be okay, and he'll have a long reign - would have been one for Norris McWhirter (RIP) to answer.
I did say he'd potentially have a very easy night mate :TU:
hahah, cardiff i thought that was my line, and this was the only way he'd get an easy night's work :wink: :TU:
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apophenic wrote:
doctorboxing wrote:Tris Dixon has tweeted that he has spoke to Warren and he still plans to go ahead on Box office!

No way can a British title fight headline a PPV supported by a late replacement for Cleverly. If SKY pulled the plug on Khan being Box office then they should do the same here. Even Bellew or Enzo Mac wouldn't bring this up to a PPV unfortunately.

Such a shame for Cleverly who must have been working so hard for his shot.
degale / groves alone is a far more interesting and potentially entertaining fight than khan / mcloskey ever was...
I agree 100% but it is a British title fight, not a world title fight. We surely can't set the precedent that entertaining 50:50 British title fights are to be PPV?
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mickey1975 wrote:You would think any top light-heavy starved of opportunities would train for the same date as Braehmer with his history. We all saw it coming. Im going on Saturday and am not even that dissapointed as i more than half expected it.
yup exactly mickey
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alexpaterson wrote:
doctorboxing wrote:Tris Dixon has tweeted that he has spoke to Warren and he still plans to go ahead on Box office!

No way can a British title fight headline a PPV supported by a late replacement for Cleverly. If SKY pulled the plug on Khan being Box office then they should do the same here. Even Bellew or Enzo Mac wouldn't bring this up to a PPV unfortunately.

Such a shame for Cleverly who must have been working so hard for his shot.
I can't see Frank risking Bellewyet, because he can make that in to a really big fight!!
i think that's a very risky fight for clev to take on short notice....
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i must have said about a dozen times i'll believe the fight happens when i see em both in the ring
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