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yid14 wrote:

LION KING1 wrote:

yid14 wrote: Great punches to finish him off you idiot. He was punching a guy not defending himself. I believe should have been defending himself but to say he finished it with great punishes shows your an idiot rooaar

Bit offensive there. Rule number one of boxing. Protect yourself at all times. If Ortiz is busy enjoying being on tv then more fool him.

Go and eat a bagel you little prick.

I agree he should have been protecting himself, I stated that. Just called you an idiot because you thought they were great finishing punches, against a man not (stupidly) defending himself.
Mugabi/Nige/Pussyking go away.

Cool your ringlets!

freddydoesdallas wrote:Merchant comes across as an absolute pudendum there. He knows what he's doing and that he's trying to rile Mayweather. We criticise ref's when they make the fight about them, i think Merchant tries to make himself the talking point of fights

'i wish i was 50 years younger so that i could kick your ass'

What an absolute muppet.

Agree.

Look at Merchants responbse as soon as floyd say he does not give him a fair shake! Merchant becomes aggressive, Floyd is pumped from the fight, Merchant has no such excuse. The drunk piece of shit camera whore.

Mensa07 wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:Haven't seen it yet but from the sounds of it Mayweather was well within his rights. The fight was back on and they'd touched. If someone had butted me on purpose he'd have had the left right combination as he raised his hand

The point had been taken by Cortez, he waved them together, the 2 fighters walked to the middle and Ortiz carried on apologising trying to hug Floyd, Floyd acknowledged and then started throwing, Ortiz went down and that was that.

Floyd was well within his rights IMO, personally I think Ortiz had given up mentally. He was getting taken to school, barely landed a shot. Floyd said he can have a rematch if he wants one, can't say fairer than that considering Ortiz's headbutt, which was disgraceful.

I agree.........

I think that Ortiz knew that he was probably going to be out of his depth before the fight began and after three rounds he knew he was out of his depth. He was hanging in there but couldn't land a shot and was getting countered and out smarted by Floyds hand speed and timing, hence his fustration and the eventual butting of Floyd. It did seem to me that Ortiz went out of fight mode completly when he lent forward and kissed floyd and then wanted to extend the hugging contest aswell. I found it strange how relaxed and smiley Ortiz looked when he was on the canvas and after in the interviews. Contrast this with how Judah reacted after being stopped by Tzsyu all those years ago. So i agree, i think he knew he was in for a beating later on in the fight, knew he had butted out of fustration and also knew that his naivety had resulted in being caught off guard.

Merchant actually said to ORTIZ 'why are you apologising for the head buttbutt?



Biased drunk kkk subscriber!

earsjohn wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:Merchant comes across as an absolute pudendum there. He knows what he's doing and that he's trying to rile Mayweather. We criticise ref's when they make the fight about them, i think Merchant tries to make himself the talking point of fights

'i wish i was 50 years younger so that i could kick your ass'

What an absolute muppet.

Do you not think that Larry is entitled to ask a question about the ending, particularly when there is some pretty vociferous booing from the crowd and the footage shown in the ring shows that the hapless Joe Cortez wasn't looking at the fighters?

Floyd acted like a spoilt child and to square up to a man 50 odd years his senior, demanding his sacking from the TV company that has made Floyd a very rich man and telling him "you ain't sh1t" are actions I wouldn't expect from my 2 year old. I think Merchants response was pretty reasonable in those circumstances.

Neither guy comes out of it well, but that sort of behaviour is more in keeping with Floyd than it is with Merchant. Your wrong in saying that it's the tv company who has made Floyd Mayweather a rich man, it's Floyd and his like who have given Merchant a good standard of living without throwing a single punch in 50 years !! Floyd should have been more respectful to Merchant because of his age, but Floyd is Floyd, where as Merchant should have more about him than to resort to a cheap remark that he couldn't ever hope to back up no matter and what age he was and in doing so he made himslef look as stupid as Floyd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA26MLLZlNc

if you watch from 45 seconds you see the time keeper jump and and start doing the count where joe cortez looks and starts to count himself..... joe cortez should still give the game up now though imo he wasnt in control of the bout and looked clueless

Surely Mayweather and Pacquiao are becoming the biggest laughing stocks in boxing now with their blatant cherry picking of old fogies, young hype jobs and ridiculous catchweight demands. Pair of bloody jokers.

I had an argument with a mate earlier who brought up the ol'bullshit that I can't be doing with, you know comparing fighters from different eras and that, he said "I reckon that Mayweather fella would have beaten a prime Chavez or a prime Duran" I'm just like "nah mate he may well have the skills but he'd never have stepped into the ring with either of them at their prime, he'd have waited till they were mid 30's and make them wear a ball and chain" he just replies "nah you're a hater"

dhb-raging bull wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA26MLLZlNc

if you watch from 45 seconds you see the time keeper jump and and start doing the count where joe cortez looks and starts to count himself..... joe cortez should still give the game up now though imo he wasnt in control of the bout and looked clueless

sorry watch from 35 seconds

LION KING1 wrote:Merchan is a hating spiteful old c--t. He was almost kissing dlh whenever he interviews him. Bhop tore him up once. Ortiz was done. Little boy out of his league so tried to cheat. Dont be fooled by merchant. He just likes being on tv. 50 years younger? Any version of floyd kicks his ass. HBO should get merchant a desk Job. Drunk bastard. Cortez is another camera whore. Floyd needs to be active. Saw a bit of rust for the first time. Great punches to finish of dlh's little puppet. Rooooooooooooaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!!!

Well, they say that people look like their pets, and in this case one of Floyd's pets talks just like him: offensive, unlettered and childishly.

ALI wrote:

ArtOfWar wrote:All Merchant did was ask the question(s) that needed to be asked and Floyd blew his top. The finish was clearly a cheap shot, but Ortiz was a muppet for not being more on the ball.

All in all it was another shitty night for boxing. Floyd brings a lot of interest to boxing that doesn't normally happen, but a lot of people (I would even say the majority) end up being disappointed at the end of it. That seems to be to common with Floyd fights.

This is why i'd rather watch Pacquiao regardless of who is the better of the two (I think Floyd would win).

I'll second all of that

Merchant did nothing wrong, he asked the right questions IMO. Mayweather's imaturity shone through once again by throwing his toys out of the pram for no real reason. Merchants response to his child like rant was pure class! Their spat was the highlight of the night, much more interesting than the fight itself.
Joe Cortez should take the brunt of the blame for the ending. I did not hear him say box on, but he certainly waved them back into action, albeit not authoratively, he then proceeded to take his eye of the ball for over 5 seconds and by then it was all over. Bottom line is though Ortiz should have protected himself 'at all times'.

I believe Ortiz could possibly have beaten the count, but may have opted not to.

A pro commentator telling a prize fighter he woud kick his ass if he were years younger has done nothing wrong?

Merchant bores me these days, I'm not knocking his knowledge of the sport but he's a hasbeen in the world of broadcasting, in the time it takes him to conduct a post fight interview I'll have nodded off before the end.

hitman_hatton1 wrote:

ArtOfWar wrote:All Merchant did was ask the question(s) that needed to be asked and Floyd blew his top. The finish was clearly a cheap shot, but Ortiz was a muppet for not being more on the ball.

All in all it was another shitty night for boxing. Floyd brings a lot of interest to boxing that doesn't normally happen, but a lot of people (I would even say the majority) end up being disappointed at the end of it. That seems to be to common with Floyd fights.

This is why i'd rather watch Pacquiao regardless of who is the better of the two (I think Floyd would win).

ever cynical.

ortiz should never have got the fight.

just weren't ready.

1 world title win and pitched straight in the deep end.

larry merchant owned the lad.

mayweather completely over reacted.

I know. It's bad that I only feel like chipping in when bad stuff happens. That's what boxing does to a fan though.

See I don't agree with Ortiz not deserving the fight. I thought he looked ok and quite composed. Floyd was winning, but had the fight carried on and had Floyd won with no controversy I think it would have been an excellent win. Instead it turned into a bit of a shambles.

Merchant is a drunken old fool. He just kept chipping away until Mayweather blew - he knew what he was doing there. Mayweather was totally within his rights, it's not his fault if Ortiz hasn't the sense to protect himself. He was stood gazing at the referee after the bout had resumed, tough shite if he gets knocked out.

The headbut was flagrant, and Ortiz is a punk. If you are going to blatantly headbutt someone, don't go trying to cuddle them afterwards, it's pathetic.

Mayweather was all business, which is what he is meant to do inside the ring.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool.

Source? or is it the fact that he's in his 80's?

banjo wrote:Surely Mayweather and Pacquiao are becoming the biggest laughing stocks in boxing now with their blatant cherry picking of old fogies, young hype jobs and ridiculous catchweight demands. Pair of bloody jokers.

I had an argument with a mate earlier who brought up the ol'bullshit that I can't be doing with, you know comparing fighters from different eras and that, he said "I reckon that Mayweather fella would have beaten a prime Chavez or a prime Duran" I'm just like "nah mate he may well have the skills but he'd never have stepped into the ring with either of them at their prime, he'd have waited till they were mid 30's and make them wear a ball and chain" he just replies "nah you're a hater"

For gods Sake, mayweather has been out of action for over a year, and he's just taken on a guy who beat Berto to win a title. What the hell do you expect? Mayweather is only human mate, this was a tune up, but he took on a guy who is young, hungry, and just won a world title belt.

Seriously, you need some perspective.

I don't think Mayweather is scared of anyone. I don't think he'd have beaten Duran at 135, or Leonard at 147, but that's no great knock on the man.

He does need to fight Pacman however - I think he will beat Manny surprisingly easily, but he needs to make the fight soon, as his reflexes are going to be slowing now at 34.

Jon Saxon wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool.

Source? or is it the fact that he's in his 80's?

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I saw him in the pissers at the MGM grand before, and he was pissed.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool.

Source? or is it the fact that he's in his 80's?

]

I saw him in the pissers at the MGM grand before, and he was pissed.

Apparently he is always drunk.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool. He just kept chipping away until Mayweather blew - he knew what he was doing there. Mayweather was totally within his rights, it's not his fault if Ortiz hasn't the sense to protect himself. He was stood gazing at the referee after the bout had resumed, tough shite if he gets knocked out.

The headbut was flagrant, and Ortiz is a punk. If you are going to blatantly headbutt someone, don't go trying to cuddle them afterwards, it's pathetic.

Mayweather was all business, which is what he is meant to do inside the ring.

Cortez was looking at both fighters, they touched gloves and as Floyd set himself with his hands, Ortiz then goes to hug Floyd at which point Floyd threw the first punch, Ortiz looks at the referee and then Floyd throws the second punch. Floyd has done nothing wrong here apart from maybe not showing "sportsmanship" in waiting until Ortiz gets into fight mode again. The point is that it was Ortiz who did the illegal move by headbutting needlessly and that's why he found himself in the situation in the first place. Mayweather was just doing what he does within the rules and Ortiz was plain naive in that situation

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool.

Source? or is it the fact that he's in his 80's?

]

I saw him in the pissers at the MGM grand before, and he was pissed.

When EXACTLY?

You see I don't believe you, in fact I'm betting Time Warner wouldn't let him on air and would revoke his contract quicke than you can say 'Bobby Cyz'.

Libel.

Carbo wrote:

LION KING1 wrote:Merchan is a hating spiteful old c--t. He was almost kissing dlh whenever he interviews him. Bhop tore him up once. Ortiz was done. Little boy out of his league so tried to cheat. Dont be fooled by merchant. He just likes being on tv. 50 years younger? Any version of floyd kicks his ass. HBO should get merchant a desk Job. Drunk bastard. Cortez is another camera whore. Floyd needs to be active. Saw a bit of rust for the first time. Great punches to finish of dlh's little puppet. Rooooooooooooaaaaaaaarrrrrrrr!!!

Well, they say that people look like their pets, and in this case one of Floyd's pets talks just like him: offensive, unlettered and childishly.

Try again!

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool. He just kept chipping away until Mayweather blew - he knew what he was doing there.

Woah, there. You say Merchant "just kept chipping away", but watch the interview. First question, answered with "I'd like to thank God...." Second question, "I'd like to thank everyone for buying PPV." Third and fourth questions answered with the same line, "defend yourself at all times."

So he has two choices, let Mayweather (or anyone else he interviews) get away with that, or pull them on it and try to force a proper answer. Some people think the latter is "prickly" or "abrasive" or "confrontational", and I can understand that, to a certain degree; however, for me, true journalistic integrity demands the latter course, and it takes far more bravery to plot and follow. I, for one, am happy Merchant follows that.

But whichever one prefers, and whether you like Merchant or not, you can't say he kept chipping away when Mayweather wasn't really answering the questions.

Jon Saxon wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote: Source? or is it the fact that he's in his 80's?

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I saw him in the pissers at the MGM grand before, and he was pissed.

When EXACTLY?

You see I don't believe you, in fact I'm betting Time Warner wouldn't let him on air and would revoke his contract quicke than you can say 'Bobby Cyz'.

Libel.

Who cares if you believe me or not. I was at the MGM in 2004, when I was covering Pacman v Marquez I (that was 2004 as I remember), I was having a piss, not sure if it was before or after the bout, and Larry came in for a slash, and to my eyes, he looked pretty sozzled.

He always sounds a bit loaded.

I doubt Time Warner breathalise the old duffer before each gig, as long as he can carry out his duties, they probably dont give a fiddlers fart if he is drunk or not. Christ, do you think that TV presenters dont do their job a bit loaded sometimes, there's a long history of alcoholic newsreaders, newscasters, reporters, journalists etc.

Whether he is drunken or not, he sounds pissed when he does his long, slurring, rambling and frankly tedious interviews.

jamesmcdonnell wrote:

Jon Saxon wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:]

I saw him in the pissers at the MGM grand before, and he was pissed.

When EXACTLY?

You see I don't believe you, in fact I'm betting Time Warner wouldn't let him on air and would revoke his contract quicke than you can say 'Bobby Cyz'.

Libel.

Who cares if you believe me or not. I was at the MGM in 2004, when I was covering Pacman v Marquez I (that was 2004 as I remember), I was having a piss, not sure if it was before or after the bout, and Larry came in for a slash, and to my eyes, he looked pretty sozzled.

He always sounds a bit loaded.

I doubt Time Warner breathalise the old duffer before each gig, as long as he can carry out his duties, they probably dont give a fiddlers fart if he is drunk or not. Christ, do you think that TV presenters dont do their job a bit loaded sometimes, there's a long history of alcoholic newsreaders, newscasters, reporters, journalists etc.

Whether he is drunken or not, he sounds pissed when he does his long, slurring, rambling and frankly tedious interviews.

Do you know what James? BULLSHIT and here's why....'


HBO telcest can last up to three hours and Merchant never leaves ringside.
So If he was ever drunk he would be well sober up by the final interview.
Face it mate you and anyone else who says that the old geezer is drunk is talking out of there badly informed asses.

He's just an old man who's voice is getting slower with age.

It's bullshit like this that drags down decent posts.

Carbo wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool. He just kept chipping away until Mayweather blew - he knew what he was doing there.

Woah, there. You say Merchant "just kept chipping away", but watch the interview. First question, answered with "I'd like to thank God...." Second question, "I'd like to thank everyone for buying PPV." Third and fourth questions answered with the same line, "defend yourself at all times."

So he has two choices, let Mayweather (or anyone else he interviews) get away with that, or pull them on it and try to force a proper answer. Some people think the latter is "prickly" or "abrasive" or "confrontational", and I can understand that, to a certain degree; however, for me, true journalistic integrity demands the latter course, and it takes far more bravery to plot and follow. I, for one, am happy Merchant follows that.

But whichever one prefers, and whether you like Merchant or not, you can't say he kept chipping away when Mayweather wasn't really answering the questions.

AND IF SOMEONE DOES NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YOU TELL THEM YOU WOULD KICK THEIR ASS IF YOU WERE 50 YEARS YOUNGER.

MERCHANT IS A DRUNKEN OLD SCROTE AND NEEDS TO LAY OFF THE SAUCE!

LION KING1 wrote:

Carbo wrote:

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Merchant is a drunken old fool. He just kept chipping away until Mayweather blew - he knew what he was doing there.

Woah, there. You say Merchant "just kept chipping away", but watch the interview. First question, answered with "I'd like to thank God...." Second question, "I'd like to thank everyone for buying PPV." Third and fourth questions answered with the same line, "defend yourself at all times."

So he has two choices, let Mayweather (or anyone else he interviews) get away with that, or pull them on it and try to force a proper answer. Some people think the latter is "prickly" or "abrasive" or "confrontational", and I can understand that, to a certain degree; however, for me, true journalistic integrity demands the latter course, and it takes far more bravery to plot and follow. I, for one, am happy Merchant follows that.

But whichever one prefers, and whether you like Merchant or not, you can't say he kept chipping away when Mayweather wasn't really answering the questions.

AND IF SOMEONE DOES NOT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION YOU TELL THEM YOU WOULD KICK THEIR ASS IF YOU WERE 50 YEARS YOUNGER.

MERCHANT IS A DRUNKEN OLD SCROTE AND NEEDS TO LAY OFF THE SAUCE!

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