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Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 07:39
by liamlion
fatcity69 wrote:I cant belive people are just writing off Murray in this fight!. Harrison has not had a proper 'fight' against a qulaity opponent for 6 years and is a natural feather and it being thrown in with a guy who despite his flaws is one of the best lightweights in Europe.... this is a gimme for Murray... look for Harrison to start good and then fade and be stopped in about 7 or 8 rounds. Really dissapointed that Harrison is being handled like this, basically he is being thrown to the wolves, a short cut to a deadend alley for Harrison...
Completely agree!

Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 08:00
by Dirk Kelly
G0mez wrote:Freak show fight.
If Scott had 3 or 4 more quick bouts it would make it a bit more of a bout, but straight after a bum fight into a scrap with John Murray is gonna just write him off.
Say he loses badly.... He will fall off that wagon in spectacular fashion.
That is the big worry for me, if and when Harrisson looses, where does he go? Back to the bottle I think.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 08:16
by Dan Dares
G0mez wrote:Say he loses badly.... He will fall off that wagon in spectacular fashion.
That could happen if he wins, draws, whatever. Something completely outside of boxing could well cause him to fall of the wagon. I hope not, but alchoholism is a very delicate thing.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 11:10
by jessi
fatcity69 wrote:I cant belive people are just writing off Murray in this fight!. Harrison has not had a proper 'fight' against a qulaity opponent for 6 years and is a natural feather and it being thrown in with a guy who despite his flaws is one of the best lightweights in Europe.... this is a gimme for Murray... look for Harrison to start good and then fade and be stopped in about 7 or 8 rounds. Really dissapointed that Harrison is being handled like this, basically he is being thrown to the wolves, a short cut to a deadend alley for Harrison...
Agree people are crazy to write Murray off, but Harrison wants the short cut back to the top, if he does loose he can just say it was a step to far to quick and come back abit more gradual after, his age doesn't give him much of a choice really to being fast tracked, I still believe it's a 50/50 fight !
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 12:01
by winkveron
If a loss will send Harrison back to the bottle (IF!) then it has to happen at some point. What do people want him to do, fight a bum every time until he is 90!?!
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 12:22
by Counter-puncher
winkveron wrote:If a loss will send Harrison back to the bottle (IF!) then it has to happen at some point. What do people want him to do, fight a bum every time until he is 90!?!
he didn't seem to mind doing that in his 'first' boxing career, let me see now, featherweights on the scene Barrera Morales Marquez, featherweights he actually fought, Manuel Medina in his 95th failed attempt to gain a wortld title, ummm the fistic great Victor Polo, ummm, some bloke called Chacon?

Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 12:52
by liamlion
This is madness on Harrison's part.
Regardless of how hard he's trained in the past few months, or how hard he's going to train in the build-up to the fight, Harrison simply isnt going to have the necessary conditioning to last 10 full, hard competitive rounds.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 13:35
by stevieb_8006
people can say "who has scott fought", but a closer look at murrays record isnt that impressive either. its all domestics and a few europatsys. he gets too much credit cos hes tough and brave. its hardly like hes hard to find and he tends to make every fight a life or death battle lately. marks up REALLY easy and doesnt live the life.
also, seeing as they have sparred together, maybe scott feels he simply has his number or knows something we dont.
obv. just playing devils advocate, we wont know untill scott gets hit will we? That 10 year old boy he beat told us nothing. I can see it being a classic.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 06 Aug 2012, 14:15
by Wrists
Whats the problem??
If Scott has got it this fight will tell us - he's gone beyond being able to be 'built up'. At this stage its a great opportunity for him and a good fight.
If he takes a shelling for 4 or 5 rounds pull him out. No waste in seeing what he's got.
Murray - brave, likeable but just shy of world class and certainly not a monster.
This is a very good fight IMO
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 04:20
by The Insider
Wrists wrote:Whats the problem??
If Scott has got it this fight will tell us - he's gone beyond being able to be 'built up'. At this stage its a great opportunity for him and a good fight.
If he takes a shelling for 4 or 5 rounds pull him out. No waste in seeing what he's got.
Murray - brave, likeable but just shy of world class and certainly not a monster.
This is a very good fight IMO
I agree. If Harrison and his team think he's ready and its worth the gamble, this is a fast track to bigger fights and pay days. As I've said in earlier posts, I think Harrison should have had at least another 2 fights before taking this huge step up in class. The fact that most people think Murray is on the slide and Harrison is still much of an unknown quantity make this fight all the more exciting. This has fight of the year written all over it while it lasts. I wouldn't bet on either man outright but ill be staking big on it not going the distance. Really looking forward to this promotion.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 07 Aug 2012, 16:44
by Black Sam Bellamy
Has this fight definately been confirmed ?
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 13:30
by palooka
This is a six round fight, tops. Harrison has the better resume and will bust John up. I'll put money on it.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 14:34
by jameswilson
Wales wrote:I hope the bookies are as generous in picking Harrison as you guys. I reckon Murray will smash him to pieces.
Seconded. One swallow doesn't make her my girlfriend. And one half decent performance in his comeabck fight doesn't mean Harrison is anywhere near the fighter he was.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 16:50
by Coco
Harrison was always a class act in the ring but with his time out and abuse, a warm up against a teenage, Bulgarian novice is not enough to even get back into top domestic class, Murray will need to have slipped badly for the Scot to win
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 19:13
by Goz
I imagine Murray will batter Harrison, 1 fight in 7 years and hardly clean leaving. Scott might do ok for a couple of rounds but will surely lose big.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 19:17
by Andrew
According to Joe Gallaghers twitter this fight is not happening.
See for yourself.
https://twitter.com/gallaghersgym
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 02:09
by jessi
Still 6 weeks off, wouldnt supprise me if team Murray were last to know !
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 03:13
by billy nelson
Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 07:58
by jessi
billy nelson wrote:Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Mitchell is a better fighter then Ricky can dream off, my point will be proven come 22nd of September, I feel you find that hard to except but it's true

Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 08:51
by Gazmac81
Really cant see How Mithcell beats burns
Cant see him catching him with anything meanifull to stop him or regular to outwork him , Burns long range jab and body hooks will be catching him all night i think.
only time can really see burns getting hit is when he sits on ropes with gaurd up and mitchell maybe get through with odd straight right when doubled up , but burns doesnt give much away even when on the ropes
Still its going to be some night
Hopefully Harrison in decent test too
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 09:02
by mickey1975
Gazmac81 wrote:Really cant see How Mithcell beats burns
Cant see him catching him with anything meanifull to stop him or regular to outwork him , Burns long range jab and body hooks will be catching him all night i think.
only time can really see burns getting hit is when he sits on ropes with gaurd up and mitchell maybe get through with odd straight right when doubled up , but burns doesnt give much away even when on the ropes
Still its going to be some night
Hopefully Harrison in decent test too
I agree, even with Billy who would have you believe Burns would beat a prime Ali! Burns has too many minerals for Kev, i suspect.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 16:15
by billy nelson
jessi wrote:billy nelson wrote:Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Mitchell is a better fighter then Ricky can dream off, my point will be proven come 22nd of September, I feel you find that hard to except but it's true

We will see come the 22nd you will be full of praise for Ricky on the 23rd he looking great in the gym and so up for this fight it's unreal
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 10 Aug 2012, 13:13
by jessi
^ ^ good luck to him your a good team !
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 01 Sep 2012, 10:19
by oliverfennell
oliverfennell wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:bloody hell
Harrison Murray
Walsh Simpson
Burns Mitchell
on one bill?
Who's promoting?
In a development of such a hugely unpredictably nature that it can only be described as an act of god, a tasty FW triple-header has been reduced down to one of the announced matches.
Re: Scott Harrison v John Murray 22nd september
Posted: 01 Sep 2012, 10:26
by palooka
Were you as cynical before you were a boxing fan Oliver?