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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Syntax Error wrote:One that has always stuck in my mind is Fidel Castro Smith -v- Henry Wharton.

Smith boxed Wharton out of the county, yet the referee raised Wharton's hand at the end. :x

Have you ever seen Conteh/Burnett? The London crowd was cheering Burnett at the end after the decision.

Yes, great call.

I never considered that one, but how that fight was declared a draw is a mystery to all.

Blatant highway robbery if ever I saw.

leonard hearns 2
delhoya sturm

both decisions sucked

When people talk about "biggest" robbery inevitably people always throw out fights like Evander-Lewis I, Oscar-Sturm, and Toney-Tiberi when they really shouldn't b/c although those weren't great decisions, they had lots of close rounds and were competitive fights.

To me a huge robbery is more like Burton-Augustus, in which the 'winner' didn't win more than 2 rounds at best and the fight was incredibly-one sided. In terms of higher profile fights, I'd add Whitaker-Chavez; in which not even an ardent JCC supporter could put forth a quasi-rational card showing the fight even or Chavez winning. Ditto with Casamayor-Santa Cruz. Those are true ROBBERIES.

cassamayor santa cruz sucked very badly

The best I can come with now is Oscar vs Felix should have been 9-3 and Oscar was putting it on.Felix early

scallum wrote:The best I can come with now is Oscar vs Felix should have been 9-3 and Oscar was putting it on.Felix early

I never saw any media score of 9-3.
Off the top of my head, I can remember that Lederman had it a draw, Merchant and Andre Aldridge of ESPN had it 115-114 DLH, and Tim Dahlberg of the AP and Steve Springer of the L.A. Times had it 115-113 DLH. I also believe that Nigel Collins of Ring scored it for Tito.

Rover wrote:

scallum wrote:The best I can come with now is Oscar vs Felix should have been 9-3 and Oscar was putting it on.Felix early

I never saw any media score of 9-3.
Off the top of my head, I can remember that Lederman had it a draw, Merchant and Andre Aldridge of ESPN had it 115-114 DLH, and Tim Dahlberg of the AP and Steve Springer of the L.A. Times had it 115-113 DLH. I also believe that Nigel Collins of Ring scored it for Tito.

Does he means Felix Sturm, not Felix Trinidad?

Controversial wrote:

Rover wrote:

scallum wrote:The best I can come with now is Oscar vs Felix should have been 9-3 and Oscar was putting it on.Felix early

I never saw any media score of 9-3.
Off the top of my head, I can remember that Lederman had it a draw, Merchant and Andre Aldridge of ESPN had it 115-114 DLH, and Tim Dahlberg of the AP and Steve Springer of the L.A. Times had it 115-113 DLH. I also believe that Nigel Collins of Ring scored it for Tito.

Does he means Felix Sturm, not Felix Trinidad?

Ah, you might be right.

the best i could come up with on stirm delahoya was 9-3
total robbery

i believe oscar admitted he lost later on

funeka-guzman was bad
casa- santa cruz
mosley-dlh 2
pbf-castillo 1
ngoudgo-castillo

I seem to remember Lara v Williams being a bad one?


The Japanese guy in the olympics that knocked the guy down 5 times in the last round but the other guy won the round and the fight in the end.

benn v eubank II

Jaywheel wrote:funeka-guzman was bad
casa- santa cruz
mosley-dlh 2
pbf-castillo 1
ngoudgo-castillo

Had PBF/Castillo a draw, and I detest PBF. I also thought Mosley beat DLH, but DLH was cheated anyway because we know Mosley took roids.

Roars Like Me wrote:I seem to remember Lara v Williams being a bad one?


The Japanese guy in the olympics that knocked the guy down 5 times in the last round but the other guy won the round and the fight in the end.

Lara/Williams was so bad the judges got suspended.

semtexreilly wrote:benn v eubank II

I had Eubank by a point because of the deduction. The Showtime crew had Benn by a point (114-113 and 115-114 for Czyz and Pacheco). Very close either way.

Rover wrote:

Roars Like Me wrote:I seem to remember Lara v Williams being a bad one?


The Japanese guy in the olympics that knocked the guy down 5 times in the last round but the other guy won the round and the fight in the end.

Lara/Williams was so bad the judges got suspended.

Good and so they should

Rover wrote:

semtexreilly wrote:benn v eubank II

I had Eubank by a point because of the deduction. The Showtime crew had Benn by a point (114-113 and 115-114 for Czyz and Pacheco). Very close either way.

Agreed.

Eubank -v- Benn 2 was a very close fight.

I thought Benn just edged it, but with the deduction of a point, I thought a draw was a pretty fair result all said & done.

Rover wrote:

Jaywheel wrote:funeka-guzman was bad
casa- santa cruz
mosley-dlh 2
pbf-castillo 1
ngoudgo-castillo

Had PBF/Castillo a draw, and I detest PBF. I also thought Mosley beat DLH, but DLH was cheated anyway because we know Mosley took roids.

Are you a professionnal judge by any chance?

Foreman vs Briggs was the biggest robbery i ever saw.

Roars Like Me wrote:
The Japanese guy in the olympics that knocked the guy down 5 times in the last round but the other guy won the round and the fight in the end.

Although an amateur bout a good shout, yes Shimizu Satoshi, it was actually 6 times he decked Magomed Abdulhamidov in the last round and lost a 22-17 decision. Shocker. The ref was sent home but thankfully the result was overturned on appeal.

Jaywheel wrote:

Rover wrote:

Jaywheel wrote:funeka-guzman was bad
casa- santa cruz
mosley-dlh 2
pbf-castillo 1
ngoudgo-castillo

Had PBF/Castillo a draw, and I detest PBF. I also thought Mosley beat DLH, but DLH was cheated anyway because we know Mosley took roids.

Are you a professionnal judge by any chance?

No.

Not corrupt disgraces like some already mentioned but the following decisions went quite strongly against how I saw the fights:

Eusebio Pedroza SD Rocky Lockridge (1st fight) - I had 145-141 Lockridge but two judges had it 147-141 and 149-139 for Pedroza. The latter card beggars belief imo.

Jeff Fenech D Azumah Nelson (1st fight) - I had 117-113 Fenech (7-3-2) and really can't see a case for a 116-112 Nelson card

James Toney UD Vassily Jirov - No problem with Toney getting the nod (I had it 113-113, 7-5 Jirov minus a point each for the low blow deduction and the KD) but I thought the cards (117-109 x2 & 116-110) were too wide

maybe not the biggest robbery, but foreman-schultz seems
to have been a bad decision ...

Billy Graham robbed against Kid Gavilan

man wrote:maybe not the biggest robbery, but foreman-schultz seems
to have been a bad decision ...

x2
115-113 Axel for me.