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There use to be a number of Full-Bloods on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota.
But that was back in the 1930's and usually those ones were old enough
to remember the"Battle of the Greasy Grass".

Contrary to the history revionists of today with an axe to grind against America these days it seems.
There was really no stigma for a White person to have some Native American blood.
(like Elizabeth Warren claims).
Unless you still wanted to live in your community like it was 1490 maybe.
Plenty of White people from the Southern United States have Indian heritage.
Particularly Whites of Scots-Irish desent(aka Red Neck crackers according to MSNBC).
The new revionist just want to further Balkinize America by trying to change past history.

Archie Whitewater

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Archie_Whitewater

His nickname was the Chief,not very original there's also a link to a lot of other Native American boxers ;;-)

Brutu wrote:There use to be a number of Full-Bloods on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota.
But that was back in the 1930's and usually those ones were old enough
to remember the"Battle of the Greasy Grass".

i would guess there are more full bloods in canada, where the history isn't quite the same.
i know this doesn't count but someone told me stan jonathan was full blooded mohawk.
for a little guy he was a bad mutha, and had 27 goals in 77-78
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1y0QCOQOM

The Battle of the Greasy grass,thats what the Indians called The Battle of Little Bighorn
June 1876.

James"Quick"Tillis,His mother was a granddaughter of a Cherokee indian.
Im not sure what percent that makes him.About as much as Elizabeth Warren i guess.

..jaywheel....it may come as a surprise to you but there are many examples of walls of plain text. they are called books.
i have taught adults to read them. in the unlikely premise that you are interested in them you may have s friends who can find you a tutor.

Brutu wrote:Contrary to the history revionists of today with an axe to grind against America these days it seems.
There was really no stigma for a White person to have some Native American blood.
(like Elizabeth Warren claims).
Unless you still wanted to live in your community like it was 1490 maybe.
Plenty of White people from the Southern United States have Indian heritage.
Particularly Whites of Scots-Irish desent(aka Red Neck crackers according to MSNBC).
The new revionist just want to further Balkinize America by trying to change past history.

That's not particuarly true Brutu, considering I grew up with some racist sentiments for being a mix of many different races. My mother's people were Mulungeon Gypsies who married into Scotch-Irish immigrants in the 19th century. The dark skin, hair, eyes, my mother's people carried still passed down to some members of the family today. My cousin Jerry Robbins, in fact, was used as the model for the 'Fort Loramie Redskins' statue in the highschool because of our ancestry, though according to the German community they 'ran out' the Native American peoples in the early 1800's. Truth is my mother's people were called 'squatters' and pushed out of the community when the Germans came and forced to live in the wooded/swamp lands that later became Lake Loramie because they were Mulungeon Gypsies (gypsies cross bred with native americans and slaves) and of course, the racist attitudes of the times against the Irish and Scotsmen. Being a Scotch-Irish bred into Native American, Black or Gypsy or all three was just as bad as being full blooded.

Im guessing that it may have been something other then Native American blood
crossing into White culture that was the concern.
President Thomas Jefferson felt that White American colonist should merge with the Native Americans
to create a new hybrid race.
He didn't feel the same about people of sub-saharan African desent
mixing with White colonists however.
The Romany people have always been predjudiced against for about the past 1000 years,
which carried over to Anglo-America.
The were better accepted in Latin American countries of course.

Brutu wrote:Im guessing that it may have been something other then Native American blood
crossing into White culture that was the concern.
President Thomas Jefferson felt that White American colonist should merge with the Native Americans
to create a new hybrid race.
He didn't feel the same about people of sub-saharan African desent
mixing with White colonists however.
The Romany people have always been predjudiced against for about the past 1000 years,
which carried over to Anglo-America.
The were better accepted in Latin American countries of course.

brutu maximum respect to you cos you talk a lot of sense and know your history,im romany gypsy myself and always have respected the natives of america,god bless mate

Brutu wrote:Im guessing that it may have been something other then Native American blood
crossing into White culture that was the concern.
President Thomas Jefferson felt that White American colonist should merge with the Native Americans
to create a new hybrid race.He didn't feel the same about people of sub-saharan African desent
mixing with White colonists however.
The Romany people have always been predjudiced against for about the past 1000 years,
which carried over to Anglo-America.The were better accepted in Latin American countries of course.

I would like to see where that is written by Jefferson, considering he penned the Declaration of Indepedence and it states clearly that Jefferson didn't by proxy view the Native Americans as even being human and that they should be exterminated.

True, old records show that from the 1640's to the 1860's 1,000,000 gypsies were murdered in America for simply being a gypsy. Tales of men showing off "trophies" of gypsies kills include one account where a man held up the heads of a gypsy woman and her child. If you take into account of this, and look at the world today, Native Americans and Gypsies are the two most persecuted races on Earth; the highest infant mortality rate in Europe is among Gypsies, the highest illiteracy rate in Europe is also among gypsies, as is domestic violence, etc. What else can be attributed to that than racism between Gorjers and Gypsies. Mind you, England wants to talk proudly of being a gun free zone, yet they used not just rifles or handguns, but ASSAULT WEAPONS to force the Gypsies off the Dale Farm encampment (land that they Gypsies actually owned) and that was last year.

HomicideHenry wrote:It's the truth. You have to have 1/32nd Indian blood or more to be considered a Native American on the rolls and receive benefits from the Federal Government.

I believe the head of the Cherokee nation is 1/32 Indian. He looks like a white guy with brown eyes, though his facial structure gives hints of his ancestry.

I think you guys are too focused on North American Indians. The best I can think of is a guy fighting soon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ponce_de_Le%C3%B3n

Sugar Ray Leonard was part Native Indian.

thunderfromdownunder wrote:

HomicideHenry wrote:There are but only 500,000 Native Americans left in the continental United States, and the majority of these are people who have the 1/32nd blood requirement. An actual bonafide 100% pure blooded Native American is either non-existant or is less than 1% of the 500,000. Being part Native American myself, I can say that with absolute authority having friends who live on the reservations.

So f you have 1/32nd blood than you are classified as Indian? That's pushing it a bit

To be actually enrolled into any of the 566 American federally-recognized Indian tribes (and that term, "federally-recognized," has many legal and political implications) is determined by each tribe, and not by the feds. Being 1/32nd or 1/16th is not always enough to be eligible for enrollment. However, some folks consider themselves "Indian" although they are not actually enrolled in any particular Tribe. (Being "part-Cherokee" is a popular one.)

Hey you know,its possible to have Native American ancestors without being enrolled in any book of registrations you know.
Like the mailman back in 1910 who delivered more then the U.S Mail.
Im part (Virginia) Cherokee myself.

Henry Armstrong was half Native American, I believe.

homicide henry, the black native american irish gypsy

Ric wrote: ↑25 Jan 2013, 15:09 Here's a (incomplete) list of Native American boxers.

I knew about Marvin Camel and, wow, the Great Joe Louie, too

Carlos Monzon

I lived most of my life in the Southern US and many if not most of the white folk I knew claimed Cherokee blood.

there's a lotta frauddsters isnt there. i know certain benefits, jobs, etc you can only get or get preference for if you have certain heritage. i read about 1 university having i think it was 6 professors discovered as lying about native heritage to get positions

im sure some ppl just think it makes them sound more exotic to to be part native, plus then like homi they can speak as an expert on all native indian matterss

Not a top boxer but Samuel Hampton is a full blooded Native American.

Warren Thunder was a tough , game , fighter who fought here in Chicago a bunch of times back in the seventies. He had I believe polio as a youngster and one of his legs was badly damaged by it. Still , he always gave a great effort. I never knew him as he was around the scene here a decade before me but I always had respect for that fella.

"Mexican" Joe Rivers was native American, a man who challenged Ad Wolgast for the world lightweight title back in 1912. The fight is famous for its controversial finish when both men went down in the 13th round. Wolgast fell on top of Rivers but referee Joe Welch pulled him to one side while counting out Rivers, who was clutching his groin to signify a low blow. Wolgast, the victor, got to his feet and wobbled to his corner.

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