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Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 16:38
by keithmoonhangover
Londonirish wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote:
rm1 wrote:The only problem I have with Mcdermott is his inactivity if he doesn't fight he won't win anything.
What about the fact that he never comes into the ring in great shape?

:-? He does Perfectly Round :OhYes:

Na John is a Great Fighter and imo Beats most (except Haye) if he was fit like the 1st Fury fight and he's mine didn't play games with him..
Since leaving his trainer CJ Hussin he aint done as good as he could have.. In the 2nd Fury fight both of them was Blowing after 3 rounds, if he had been as fit as the 1st one he woud of had Fury out of there's within 5 rounds.. Heard today he is with a New trainer again, hopefully this brings out the best in John....
In the Fury rematch, Tyson was in terrible shape, but he really proved how much will to win and guts he has.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 17:03
by Karl Jade
keithmoonhangover wrote: In the Fury rematch, Tyson was in terrible shape, but he really proved how much will to win and guts he has.
For the second time, John had glandular fever during the second fight and really shouldn't have been in there but Sky basically said they'd sue if he didn't fight.

Also he was forced into wearing BBE gloves. Tyson had Reyes.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 17:12
by Londonirish
Karl Jade wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: In the Fury rematch, Tyson was in terrible shape, but he really proved how much will to win and guts he has.
For the second time, John had glandular fever during the second fight and really shouldn't have been in there but Sky basically said they'd sue if he didn't fight.

Also he was forced into wearing BBE gloves. Tyson had Reyes.


LOL

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 17:53
by keithmoonhangover
Karl Jade wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: In the Fury rematch, Tyson was in terrible shape, but he really proved how much will to win and guts he has.
For the second time, John had glandular fever during the second fight and really shouldn't have been in there but Sky basically said they'd sue if he didn't fight.

Also he was forced into wearing BBE gloves. Tyson had Reyes.
....and Fury had only sparred 10 rounds for that fight and put on a load of weight and so on and yada yada yada.

Some people said McDermott had 'left it in the gym'.

Great boxers are also great athletes and that's one thing McDermott isn't. If he got himself in top condition, he could have achieved a lot more. But, he didn't.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 18:39
by Karl Jade
keithmoonhangover wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:
keithmoonhangover wrote: In the Fury rematch, Tyson was in terrible shape, but he really proved how much will to win and guts he has.
For the second time, John had glandular fever during the second fight and really shouldn't have been in there but Sky basically said they'd sue if he didn't fight.

Also he was forced into wearing BBE gloves. Tyson had Reyes.
....and Fury had only sparred 10 rounds for that fight and put on a load of weight and so on and yada yada yada.

Some people said McDermott had 'left it in the gym'.

Great boxers are also great athletes and that's one thing McDermott isn't. If he got himself in top condition, he could have achieved a lot more. But, he didn't.
Dude, he had glandular fever, not a cold. He should've been in a hospital bed, not a boxing ring.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 18:44
by keithmoonhangover
Karl Jade wrote:Dude, he had glandular fever, not a cold. He should've been in a hospital bed, not a boxing ring.
I heard yoou the first two times. He still had bitch tits. That was due to him not being in great shape, nowt to do with his medical condition.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 19:38
by Karl Jade
He had bitch tits against Danny Williams and Skelton too. Didn't stop him comfortably doing 36 rounds.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 02:42
by mickey1975
Karl Jade wrote:He had bitch tits against Danny Williams and Skelton too. Didn't stop him comfortably doing 36 rounds.
36 and a half. The first Skelton fight wasn't that comfortable.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 04:28
by Londonirish
mickey1975 wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:He had bitch tits against Danny Williams and Skelton too. Didn't stop him comfortably doing 36 rounds.
36 and a half. The first Skelton fight wasn't that comfortable.
:lol:

Now we will hear the other story about what happened in the 1st Skelton fight..

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 04:54
by TopGun
People love to slag John off on here. Regardless of his weight he can do 12 rounds easily. He must be one of the most unlucky fighters on the British scene.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 11:56
by Karl Jade
TopGun wrote:People love to slag John off on here. Regardless of his weight he can do 12 rounds easily. He must be one of the most unlucky fighters on the British scene.
Is the truth.

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 12:03
by palooka
Karl Jade wrote:
TopGun wrote:People love to slag John off on here. Regardless of his weight he can do 12 rounds easily. He must be one of the most unlucky fighters on the British scene.
Is the truth.
:TU:

He has always seemed a very decent and interesting man in any interviews. He does get in good shape to box 12 rounds, he is a strong fellow and does not have the ideal body shape (yes that's going to get mocked :roll: ). Didn't Don Cockell also have trouble shifting weight? I remember reading he was a fantastic light heavy but the weight would not drop no matter what, maybe the same for John and he's in a boxing match not a body beautiful show (remember the Larry O bout?)

Re: Chisora Vs Mcdermott that would be a decent fight?

Posted: 24 Jul 2013, 14:40
by keithmoonhangover
palooka wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:
TopGun wrote:People love to slag John off on here. Regardless of his weight he can do 12 rounds easily. He must be one of the most unlucky fighters on the British scene.
Is the truth.
:TU:

He has always seemed a very decent and interesting man in any interviews. He does get in good shape to box 12 rounds, he is a strong fellow and does not have the ideal body shape (yes that's going to get mocked :roll: ). Didn't Don Cockell also have trouble shifting weight? I remember reading he was a fantastic light heavy but the weight would not drop no matter what, maybe the same for John and he's in a boxing match not a body beautiful show (remember the Larry O bout?)
I agree that he has been unlucky and also think he's a pretty decent fighter.

One thing is for certain, if he had the right diet and the right training since he'd turned pro, he could have been in the kind of shape that champions are in.

He's British level at best, but I wonder what he could have done if he had been in peak condition.