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Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 06:14
by mickey1975
DMA1987 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
nobby_nobbins wrote:At this late stage of his career I hope Froch goes for a fight with international significance rather than just bow out after a domestic grudge match. Win or lose, I think it would be a sad anti-climax to a great career.
Stopping Groves in Nottingham will be a much more triumphant way to go than losing a shut out to Andre Ward in America.
Cheers captain obvious. How about beating Ward?
He can't do it. If we are thinking about Rocky endings, why doesn't he knock Wlad out in Germany? What a way to go.

Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 31 Jan 2014, 16:13
by DMA1987
mickey1975 wrote:
DMA1987 wrote:
mickey1975 wrote: Stopping Groves in Nottingham will be a much more triumphant way to go than losing a shut out to Andre Ward in America.
Cheers captain obvious. How about beating Ward?
He can't do it. If we are thinking about Rocky endings, why doesn't he knock Wlad out in Germany? What a way to go.
Now you're talking. Wlad might get a German decision though, wouldn't be fair to Froch to have a robbery loss on his CV.

Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 01 Feb 2014, 03:41
by jessi
wadey wrote:I think Groves should tell them to stuff the 15% on offer and just move on. Let Froch live with the fact that his victory was unjust, which I'm sure people will remind him of long into his retirement.
Agreed

Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 11:55
by nobby_nobbins
mickey1975 wrote:
nobby_nobbins wrote:At this late stage of his career I hope Froch goes for a fight with international significance rather than just bow out after a domestic grudge match. Win or lose, I think it would be a sad anti-climax to a great career.
Stopping Groves in Nottingham will be a much more triumphant way to go than losing a shut out to Andre Ward in America.
Yes, but what if he loses to Groves in Nottingham? Ending your career on the wrong end of a decision in Vegas to one of the best boxers in the world sounds preferable to being knocked out by a domestic challenger in Nottingham.

Froch has earned his chance to avenge his loss to the best man in the division. Sure Ward is an overwhelming favourite. All Ward's prospective fights look like mismatches. But even seemingly peerless talents like him have to be challenged.

Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 02 Feb 2014, 15:39
by limey
wadey wrote:I think Groves should tell them to stuff the 15% on offer and just move on. Let Froch live with the fact that his victory was unjust, which I'm sure people will remind him of long into his retirement.
froch was coming on in the fight and was not at fault for the bs stoppage so to say it is unjust is a bit unfair

Re: Groves v froch reasons why it won't happen.

Posted: 03 Feb 2014, 06:44
by lillywhite14
wadey wrote:I think Groves should tell them to stuff the 15% on offer and just move on. Let Froch live with the fact that his victory was unjust, which I'm sure people will remind him of long into his retirement.
They won't. The longer a fighter is retired, the better he becomes. That's what usually happens!

The stoppage was early, not Froch's fault. He has plenty of fine career moments to render that almost irrelevant. The tear up with Pascal, dramatic stoppage of Taylor, completely out boxing Abraham away from home. The two wars with Kessler. Smashing the next big thing in Bute etc

Where does Groves move on to exactly? Despite his chat his options are limited when compared to Froch's. plenty of top fighters want Froch. After Stevenson stopped Bellew he was talking Froch for example.

Groves "moves on" and he is looking at earning much, much less than the 15% he is currently looking at.