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Tuan_Jim wrote:

Anzi wrote:Aden, It is easy tnok back now and have doubts about Alverez, after the way Mayweather dealt with him, but at the time, he was unbeaten, bigger and stronger then Mayweather, not to mention younger, so it was a big risk, time will tell how good Alverez turns out to be, he is so young.

Anzi... are you aware Alvarez had to drain down to 152? I

You're speaking as if Mayweather beat a middle. Calm down. It was another handpicked opponent where everything suited Floyd, as always.

2lbs and he had time to rehydrate, come fight day he would have been around 13 stone, floyd not far off 11 stone, Alverez did it before with Hatton, I don't think you understand the game and just because Delta Hiya was much worse,he did not only go 2lbs below his weight.

Anzi wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Anzi wrote:Aden, It is easy tnok back now and have doubts about Alverez, after the way Mayweather dealt with him, but at the time, he was unbeaten, bigger and stronger then Mayweather, not to mention younger, so it was a big risk, time will tell how good Alverez turns out to be, he is so young.

Anzi... are you aware Alvarez had to drain down to 152? I

You're speaking as if Mayweather beat a middle. Calm down. It was another handpicked opponent where everything suited Floyd, as always.

2lbs and he had time to rehydrate, come fight day he would have been around 13 stone, floyd not far off 11 stone, Alverez did it before with Hatton, I don't think you understand the game and just because Delta Hiya was much worse,he did not only go 2lbs below his weight.

There is no way Alvarez weighed anywhere near 13st, even when he weighed in at 11st he's never been higher than 12st 3lbs and after that they decided it was too high and didn't put as much on in the fights afterwards.

Alverez refused to weigh in, on the day , despite it being in the contracts, even if he was 12.3lbs, which I doubt, it is still about 12.3lbs above Mayweather, 2 weight divisions above, Ortiz who is a welter was 12.7lbs on the day against Floyd, floyd was 10.10lbs and Ortiz is a smaller man then Alverez, what is your point.

Anzi wrote:Alverez refused to weigh in,despite it being inagainsttract, even if he was 12.3lbs, which I doubt, it is still about 12.3lbs above Mayweather, 2 weight divisions above, Ortiz who is a welter was 12.7lbs on the day against Floyd, floyd was 10.10lbs and Ortiz is a smaller man then Alverez, what is your point.

Ortiz wasn't 12st 7lbs, he was somewhere around 11st 7lbs, around where he usually comes in and a weight advantage is no good if you can't take advantage of it, Floyd is too hard to hit. So Floyd weighed nothing did he? How else could Alvarez be 12st 3lbs above him.

Chavez Jr is the biggest weight drainer in boxing, after weighing in at 11st 6lbs, he usually comes in at least 13st, sometimes up to 13st 7lbs, there's no way anyone else puts that kind of weight on.

expe wrote:

Anzi wrote:Alverez refused to weigh in,despite it being inagainsttract, even if he was 12.3lbs, which I doubt, it is still about 12.3lbs above Mayweather, 2 weight divisions above, Ortiz who is a welter was 12.7lbs on the day against Floyd, floyd was 10.10lbs and Ortiz is a smaller man then Alverez, what is your point.

Ortiz wasn't 12st 7lbs, he was somewhere around 11st 7lbs, around where he usually comes in and a weight advantage is no good if you can't take advantage of it, Floyd is too hard to hit. So Floyd weighed nothing did he? How else could Alvarez be 12st 3lbs above him.

Chavez Jr is the biggest weight drainer in boxing, after weighing in at 11st 6lbs, he usually comes in at least 13st, sometimes up to 13st 7lbs, there's no way anyone else puts that kind of weight on.

firstly I had someone in Alverez camp alongside him and a french fighter I work with in the Mayweather camp, where does your information come from?

Anzi wrote:

expe wrote:

Anzi wrote:Alverez refused to weigh in,despite it being inagainsttract, even if he was 12.3lbs, which I doubt, it is still about 12.3lbs above Mayweather, 2 weight divisions above, Ortiz who is a welter was 12.7lbs on the day against Floyd, floyd was 10.10lbs and Ortiz is a smaller man then Alverez, what is your point.

Ortiz wasn't 12st 7lbs, he was somewhere around 11st 7lbs, around where he usually comes in and a weight advantage is no good if you can't take advantage of it, Floyd is too hard to hit. So Floyd weighed nothing did he? How else could Alvarez be 12st 3lbs above him.

Chavez Jr is the biggest weight drainer in boxing, after weighing in at 11st 6lbs, he usually comes in at least 13st, sometimes up to 13st 7lbs, there's no way anyone else puts that kind of weight on.

firstly I had someone in Alverez camp alongside him and a french fighter I work with in the Mayweather camp, where does your information come from?

Mine comes from the official reports on the fights and both fighters previous fights, plus common sense. You can claim these sources to try and look big time all you want, we all know that really you train an average, area level fighter with zero power from Birmingham, plenty of other people on here know people in high places and have far better inside information than the rest of us, you're not one of them.

Anzi wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Anzi wrote:Aden, It is easy tnok back now and have doubts about Alverez, after the way Mayweather dealt with him, but at the time, he was unbeaten, bigger and stronger then Mayweather, not to mention younger, so it was a big risk, time will tell how good Alverez turns out to be, he is so young.

Anzi... are you aware Alvarez had to drain down to 152? I

You're speaking as if Mayweather beat a middle. Calm down. It was another handpicked opponent where everything suited Floyd, as always.

2lbs and he had time to rehydrate, come fight day he would have been around 13 stone, floyd not far off 11 stone, Alverez did it before with Hatton, I don't think you understand the game and just because Delta Hiya was much worse,he did not only go 2lbs below his weight.

Sounds like you don't understand the game. 'Only 2 lbs'. Okay. Bet that was easy. He should have boxed all his fights at 152lb.

What a moron.

Tuan_Jim wrote:

Anzi wrote:

Tuan_Jim wrote:
Anzi... are you aware Alvarez had to drain down to 152? I

You're speaking as if Mayweather beat a middle. Calm down. It was another handpicked opponent where everything suited Floyd, as always.

2lbs and he had time to rehydrate, come fight day he would have been around 13 stone, floyd not far off 11 stone, Alverez did it before with Hatton, I don't think you understand the game and just because Delta Hiya was much worse,he did not only go 2lbs below his weight.

Sounds like you don't understand the game. 'Only 2 lbs'. Okay. Bet that was easy. He should have boxed all his fights at 152lb.

What a moron.

While the W deserves a 152*, FMJ deserves considerable credit for getting in there with Canelo. It was a good victory, that could have been great without the catch weight.

Expe, At the end of the day you are just a little prick, who can't admit when you are wrong, produce the official reports then, if you could you would have by now, common sense ? You don't have any, it's obvious you are a nothing but an internet boxing fan, not even a good one at that, because anyone knows that fighters come down in weight more then you think and people with knowledge know Mayweather walks around close to his weight, only fools think differently, you are only arguing because you got shown as an ignorant, stupid idiot before, by me, so you are trying to get me back like a little child and anyone who try's to belittle someone else who is not involved in the argument, is nothing but a gutter rat and I am sure you would not say that to the fighters face, you little coward, now go back and get some guts, because fighters have guts, you are nothing but an insect.

Anzi wrote:Expe, At the end of the day you are just a little prick, who can't admit when you are wrong, produce the official reports then, if you could you would have by now, common sense ? You don't have any, it's obvious you are a nothing but an internet boxing fan, not even a good one at that, because anyone knows that fighters come down in weight more then you think and people with knowledge know Mayweather walks around close to his weight, only fools think differently, you are only arguing because you got shown as an ignorant, stupid idiot before, by me, so you are trying to get me back like a little child and anyone who try's to belittle someone else who is not involved in the argument, is nothing but a gutter rat and I am sure you would not say to the fighters face, you little coward, now go back and get some guts, because fighters have guts, you are nothing but an insect.

What official Report ? EXPE you are a liar
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Otol9CSl6g

Anzi wrote:It looks like people in the states are not happy with the so called poll that voted for Khan to face Floyd, because of Khan's recent losses, so it could be Mayweather v Maidana and on the undercard Khan v Broner to see who fights Floyd next, this is interesting as Broner does not seem to want to fight Mayweather, whilst everyone and their mothers do, so if he was to beat Khan, he would be pushed in floyd's direction, like it or not, Floyd is smart here, I think he would like to shut up Broner really, especially after Broners " Mayweather took a loss " comment, also Floyd could get to see how Khan does with his "own like" boxing style, Nothing as been signed yet, but it looks like it could be the way forward, especially as Maidana will bring the Mexicans to support him, the only downside is that another two fights will go by with no Pacman match.

Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

Anzi wrote:

Anzi wrote:Expe, At the end of the day you are just a little prick, who can't admit when you are wrong, produce the official reports then, if you could you would have by now, common sense ? You don't have any, it's obvious you are a nothing but an internet boxing fan, not even a good one at that, because anyone knows that fighters come down in weight more then you think and people with knowledge know Mayweather walks around close to his weight, only fools think differently, you are only arguing because you got shown as an ignorant, stupid idiot before, by me, so you are trying to get me back like a little child and anyone who try's to belittle someone else who is not involved in the argument, is nothing but a gutter rat and I am sure you would not say to the fighters face, you little coward, now go back and get some guts, because fighters have guts, you are nothing but an insect.

What official Report ? EXPE you are a liar
https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Otol9CSl6g

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/w ... rtiz.blog/
Preview/Undercard section Mayweather - 150 Ortiz - 164
Alvarez didn't weigh in on the night, but it's possible to estimate based on his past weights
Against Trout he weighed in at 172, but I believe they felt he was too sluggish that night and were aiming for around 165 against Floyd.

jtourettes wrote:

Anzi wrote:It looks like people in the states are not happy with the so called poll that voted for Khan to face Floyd, because of Khan's recent losses, so it could be Mayweather v Maidana and on the undercard Khan v Broner to see who fights Floyd next, this is interesting as Broner does not seem to want to fight Mayweather, whilst everyone and their mothers do, so if he was to beat Khan, he would be pushed in floyd's direction, like it or not, Floyd is smart here, I think he would like to shut up Broner really, especially after Broners " Mayweather took a loss " comment, also Floyd could get to see how Khan does with his "own like" boxing style, Nothing as been signed yet, but it looks like it could be the way forward, especially as Maidana will bring the Mexicans to support him, the only downside is that another two fights will go by with no Pacman match.

Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

jtourettes wrote:

Anzi wrote:It looks like people in the states are not happy with the so called poll that voted for Khan to face Floyd, because of Khan's recent losses, so it could be Mayweather v Maidana and on the undercard Khan v Broner to see who fights Floyd next, this is interesting as Broner does not seem to want to fight Mayweather, whilst everyone and their mothers do, so if he was to beat Khan, he would be pushed in floyd's direction, like it or not, Floyd is smart here, I think he would like to shut up Broner really, especially after Broners " Mayweather took a loss " comment, also Floyd could get to see how Khan does with his "own like" boxing style, Nothing as been signed yet, but it looks like it could be the way forward, especially as Maidana will bring the Mexicans to support him, the only downside is that another two fights will go by with no Pacman match.

Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

Because he is Latino, Latino's support Latino's, in the past he has said it himself and the Mexicans did support him against Broner and will against Mayweather, not only that but he trains with Mexicans, with one of the best Mexican trainers in Robert Garcia, any more questions ?

JimJim2009 wrote:

jtourettes wrote:

Anzi wrote:It looks like people in the states are not happy with the so called poll that voted for Khan to face Floyd, because of Khan's recent losses, so it could be Mayweather v Maidana and on the undercard Khan v Broner to see who fights Floyd next, this is interesting as Broner does not seem to want to fight Mayweather, whilst everyone and their mothers do, so if he was to beat Khan, he would be pushed in floyd's direction, like it or not, Floyd is smart here, I think he would like to shut up Broner really, especially after Broners " Mayweather took a loss " comment, also Floyd could get to see how Khan does with his "own like" boxing style, Nothing as been signed yet, but it looks like it could be the way forward, especially as Maidana will bring the Mexicans to support him, the only downside is that another two fights will go by with no Pacman match.

Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

I don't know why people on boxing forums have massage peoples ego's, how pathetic.

Anzi wrote:

jtourettes wrote:

Anzi wrote:It looks like people in the states are not happy with the so called poll that voted for Khan to face Floyd, because of Khan's recent losses, so it could be Mayweather v Maidana and on the undercard Khan v Broner to see who fights Floyd next, this is interesting as Broner does not seem to want to fight Mayweather, whilst everyone and their mothers do, so if he was to beat Khan, he would be pushed in floyd's direction, like it or not, Floyd is smart here, I think he would like to shut up Broner really, especially after Broners " Mayweather took a loss " comment, also Floyd could get to see how Khan does with his "own like" boxing style, Nothing as been signed yet, but it looks like it could be the way forward, especially as Maidana will bring the Mexicans to support him, the only downside is that another two fights will go by with no Pacman match.

Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

Because he is Latino, Latino's support Latino's, in the past he has said it himself and the Mexicans did support him against Broner and will against Mayweather, not only that but he trains with Mexicans, with one of the best Mexican trainers in Robert Garcia, any more questions ?

Argentina is a 10 hour flight from Mexico and Robert Garcia isn't Mexican.

Anzi wrote:

JimJim2009 wrote:

jtourettes wrote:
Why will Maidana bring the Mexicans?

I don't know why people on boxing forums have massage peoples ego's, how pathetic.

They were laughing at how stupid you are, it happens pretty often on here.

Expe( is that for expert lol, but you could not spell it ) You are the stupid one here, why don't you get a life in the real world, I meet people like you off the internet at shows, nerdy, smelly, weak, poor excuses for human life form, they only become someone on a forum, behind a computer, but in real life they are nothing, you could not even back up your argument with any facts, now who is the fool ? You know what, I am done with debating with a little dick like you, because I don't waste my time with cowardly idiots, get a job, a life and stop feeding off boxing forums.

Anzi wrote:Expe( is that for expert lol, but you could not spell it ) You are the stupid one here, why don't you get a life in the real world, I meet people like you off the internet at shows, nerdy, smelly, weak, poor excuses for human life form, they only become someone on a forum, behind a computer, but in real life they are nothing, you could not even back up your argument with any facts, now who is the fool ? You know what, I am done with debating with a little dick like you, because I don't waste my time with cowardly idiots, get a job, a life and stop feeding off boxing forums.

So once the facts are presented to you, you don't know how to respond and try and make it personal, kinds of shows you up for who you are, a racist, bigoted man who knows very little about anything.

expe wrote:

Anzi wrote:Expe( is that for expert lol, but you could not spell it ) You are the stupid one here, why don't you get a life in the real world, I meet people like you off the internet at shows, nerdy, smelly, weak, poor excuses for human life form, they only become someone on a forum, behind a computer, but in real life they are nothing, you could not even back up your argument with any facts, now who is the fool ? You know what, I am done with debating with a little dick like you, because I don't waste my time with cowardly idiots, get a job, a life and stop feeding off boxing forums.

So once the facts are presented to you, you don't know how to respond and try and make it personal, kinds of shows you up for who you are, a racist, bigoted man who knows very little about anything.

ha ha, facts Yeh right and you have the nerve to call someone a racist, you think you are getting to someone by insulting someone else, what a sad dude you are,now go and bug someone else, I am getting bored of you now.

Maidana is taylormade for Mayweather- he would almost definitely lose every round. Look how easily Alexander beat him.. Maidana looks like he has made some improvements since then but not enough to cause Mayweather any problems. Broner is not Mayweather.

Can't see Broner fighting Khan. Whatever people say about Khan, on his day he can cause anyone problems with his speed & Broner won't take another risky fight at this point.

Bohrsy wrote:Maidana is taylormade for Mayweather- he would almost definitely lose every round. Look how easily Alexander beat him.. Maidana looks like he has made some improvements since then but not enough to cause Mayweather any problems. Broner is not Mayweather.

Can't see Broner fighting Khan. Whatever people say about Khan, on his day he can cause anyone problems with his speed & Broner won't take another risky fight at this point.

I agree good points, makes sense, Khan would be a better opponent then Maidana style wise and we will have to see what Broner does now.