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Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 03:44
by big lennox
G0mez wrote:This a George Groves group cry-wank thread ?
I thought you lot would have more important stuff to discuss, like how deteriorated he was, and what a helmet he came across begging for a third fight whilst wearing a giant cap and 'Beats by Dre'
#AndTheTrue
Let's compare their comeback fights against Abraham and Bute, how they ended - and put them alongside Rebrasse.
Disagree with the #andthetrue. That tags falls to Ward who comfortably took care of Froch and is someone Froch never ever mentions.To be fair to Froch I think he excepts that he is the second best in the division, which is still a very good level because it is a division stacked with talent.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 03:50
by dookus
Great fighter, shitty attitude
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 04:07
by lillywhite14
Is Ward really that relevant anymore? One fight in two years?
He seems to like sitting doing nothing and enjoying the lack of threat that comes from that approach. Shame because he is a quality fighter. Still, he can just sit there and watch the others battle it out. I bet he earns a fortune doing that...
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 04:35
by Old Jack J
You get the feeling from Groves that he would fight Froch as many times as it took until he fluked a win then turn around and say that he knew he was the better man all along, even if it was 9-1 to froch.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 04:44
by lefthook82
lillywhite14 wrote:Is Ward really that relevant anymore? One fight in two years?
He seems to like sitting doing nothing and enjoying the lack of threat that comes from that approach. Shame because he is a quality fighter. Still, he can just sit there and watch the others battle it out. I bet he earns a fortune doing that...
Big time promoter problems
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 05:26
by lillywhite14
lefthook82 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Is Ward really that relevant anymore? One fight in two years?
He seems to like sitting doing nothing and enjoying the lack of threat that comes from that approach. Shame because he is a quality fighter. Still, he can just sit there and watch the others battle it out. I bet he earns a fortune doing that...
Big time promoter problems
Which he don't seem to help. He is not only an awkward fighter to fight against in the ring.
Didnt he once say 'If I fight Kovalev and beat him then what?' That's a terrible attitude if true.
He wants all the advantages, doesn't bring big money and seemingly thinks because he is number one that he doesn't have to prove himself by fighting challengers. Er, once you are number one your job is to repel challengers to your throne!
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 05:38
by handsofstone
I was loving the cap las night reminded me of the one Fury was sporting when he ripped into Price and Bellew
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 05:44
by big lennox
lillywhite14 wrote:lefthook82 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:Is Ward really that relevant anymore? One fight in two years?
He seems to like sitting doing nothing and enjoying the lack of threat that comes from that approach. Shame because he is a quality fighter. Still, he can just sit there and watch the others battle it out. I bet he earns a fortune doing that...
Big time promoter problems
Which he don't seem to help. He is not only an awkward fighter to fight against in the ring.
Didnt he once say 'If I fight Kovalev and beat him then what?' That's a terrible attitude if true.
He wants all the advantages, doesn't bring big money and seemingly thinks because he is number one that he doesn't have to prove himself by fighting challengers. Er, once you are number one your job is to repel challengers to your throne!
I would agree with that. It always frustrated me that said he would only give Froch a re-match in America.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 06:08
by Roman7
Good post I was thinking the same as I sat there
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 06:39
by Dai Bando
TheCobra wrote:OK I just saw the post-fight interview from groves. Deluded doesn't even cover it. The cap and the headphones just give extra weight to the fact that he's a deluded little boy. He needs to grow up and get on with his career now and stop chasing Froch for paydays.
Yes his band of London followers booed Froch, but I can assure you 'oop North' people think Groves is a prick and are bored of his cocky Cockney bravado. Get a title, fight some meaningful people at World level and then call out Froch if he's still around, cos to be honest, it's really boring!!
The only person that's deluded is Froch,! second best at the weight talks rubbish is and always in the shadow of Calzaghe, a bitter
and twisted individual.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 06:53
by whiskey
Wards definitely the best at 'winning' in the division, but his fights can't draw flies.
His fights with Green, Bika and Kessler were absolutely awful.
You can tell he was a high school wrestling champion and almost took that up instead of boxing.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 07:08
by Eddy
I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 07:43
by Ian1973
Eddy wrote:I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
I don't think Calzaghe would've lost a round against Froch, he was way, way too quick and unlike someone like Groves he would go the whole twelve rounds not fade after the first five or six. Froch comes on strong late on in fights when fighters begin to tire, he wouldn't have been able to do that against Calzaghe.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 07:44
by Ian1973
handsofstone wrote:I was loving the cap las night reminded me of the one Fury was sporting when he ripped into Price and Bellew
The cap was bloody awful and what is it with headphones round his neck in the ring? Almost as ridiculous as Broner with that stupid brush.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 08:28
by whiskey
Eddy wrote:I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
Like he raped Evans Ashira ?
A man destroyed at 154 then took Joe the distance at (his only) fight at 168.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 09:09
by lillywhite14
Ian1973 wrote:Eddy wrote:I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
I don't think Calzaghe would've lost a round against Froch, he was way, way too quick and unlike someone like Groves he would go the whole twelve rounds not fade after the first five or six. Froch comes on strong late on in fights when fighters begin to tire, he wouldn't have been able to do that against Calzaghe.
Salem and Bika had success against Joe. Both tough and awkward fighters. Nobody has an easy night against Froch. People always talk about him being slow, easy to read yet nobody completely outclasses him.
Joe would have beat him because of his work rate. Carl isn't a wet behind the ears slugger though, he wouldn't have been outclassed. I imagine a kind of 116-112 scorecard between the two.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:01
by Ian1973
G0mez wrote:Eddy wrote:I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
Like he raped Evans Ashira ?
A man destroyed at 154 then took Joe the distance at (his only) fight at 168.
Wasn't that the fight where Joe fought for about ten rounds with one arm?
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:12
by SMALL AXE1
Froch is a prick, but we all know that.
Legend of the sport? Leg End.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:25
by lillywhite14
SMALL AXE1 wrote:Froch is a prick, but we all know that.
Legend of the sport? Leg End.
He is a British legend to be fair.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:27
by SMALL AXE1
lillywhite14 wrote:SMALL AXE1 wrote:Froch is a prick, but we all know that.
Legend of the sport? Leg End.
He is a British legend to be fair.
No, not a legend.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:35
by Boxerbeetle
Ian1973 wrote:G0mez wrote:Eddy wrote:I reckon Joe Calzag would've raped him in his prime. Scum style (in the green house). Can't stand Froch.
Like he raped Evans Ashira ?
A man destroyed at 154 then took Joe the distance at (his only) fight at 168.
Wasn't that the fight where Joe fought for about ten rounds with one arm?
Yeah it was, it was on ITV & think it was the fight before Calzaghe took on Lacy.
But let's not debate Froch vs Calzaghe again, I don't think there's anything left to be said.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:40
by lillywhite14
SMALL AXE1 wrote:lillywhite14 wrote:SMALL AXE1 wrote:Froch is a prick, but we all know that.
Legend of the sport? Leg End.
He is a British legend to be fair.
No, not a legend.
Interesting. What British fighters would you call British Boxing legends then?
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:54
by mickey1975
As much as I don't like the twat, Froch is a British legend in the game, not a crossover star though, although he may be now.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 11:57
by lillywhite14
Yeah, people let their opinion of him as a person cloud their judgement of him as a fighter.
The opposition he has fought, titles he has won etc, its virtually unprecedented for a British fighter.
Re: Froch on sky
Posted: 21 Sep 2014, 12:12
by CiganoBoxer
Love the cobra , but he can be an arrogant pudendum sometimes .