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It's funny how not too long ago we had a bunch of people here stating how Rigo was lucky in beating Donaire and now that Nonito has lost then it's "he's shot" all of a sudden.

I wonder how a fighter can become sooooo shot in a span of two fights or so.

Today's boxing fans, lol

Back in the day losing often or getting beaten to a pulp meant so little in the way of calling a fighter shot, today you lose one time or get beaten handily or struggle (if you're a top opponent) with lesser competition and it equals you being a "shot" fighter.

Like I said, "Today's Boxing Fans!"

I don't recall many people here claiming that Rigo was lucky to beat Donaire. Was it the same people who are now calling the latter shot as you suggest or was it other posters?

diddy wrote:

WelshJack wrote:Lee Selby. Laugh now, but you'll see.

No I'll just laugh now. Please leave this crap on the domestic board.

Lol but Lomachenko Completely outclasses Selby, No one can outbox Loma, the only way u can beat him us low blow the whole fight and push him, hell i dont thing that would even work against Loma im forgetting that was his ONLY 2ND FIGHT No body beats Loma on forward

Against:
Mares - 90%
Golzalez - 80
Selby - 70
Gradovich - 60
Rigo - 50
Lomachenko - 40

lefty wrote: Selby will beat the very limited Gradovich and then milk that title for all it's worth against the likes of Warrington. I bet we wont see him fighting the likes of Walters, Gonzalez, Mares, Donaire, etc for awhile to put it lightly.

I dont think he beats Gradovich. He aint that limited ask the Australian dude. I agree though if he gets his hands on some kind of title, even a fake one, Eddie will milk it till the doomsday with "doemstic dustups" noone want to see outside Leeds.

He is the best fighter I have seen from the Caribbean since Julian Jackson, he could beat any of the top guys but can also be beaten, I would give him a 50/50 shot.

I think Lomo and Russell would beat him. If Rigo move up he could to

Walters vs Lomo would be tough but no way in hell that Russell touches him and if he did he wouldnt make him blink.

Rigo, Lomo, Mikey Garcia (if Walters moved up).

Every other guy around the weight he crushes. Those are the 2, or 3 tests for him.

pugilisticprofessor wrote:Walters vs Lomo would be tough but no way in hell that Russell touches him and if he did he wouldnt make him blink.

I think Russell can outbox Walters and also Gradovich wont be an easy out for him

LomaUsykKlichko wrote:

diddy wrote:

WelshJack wrote:Lee Selby. Laugh now, but you'll see.

No I'll just laugh now. Please leave this crap on the domestic board.

Lol but Lomachenko Completely outclasses Selby, No one can outbox Loma, the only way u can beat him us low blow the whole fight and push him, hell i dont thing that would even work against Loma im forgetting that was his ONLY 2ND FIGHT No body beats Loma on forward

Rigondeuex could quite possibly outbox lomachenko.

Please somebody tell me is Lee Selby is these convo who has he faced.

Tarkus wrote:Against:
Mares - 90%
Golzalez - 80
Selby - 70
Gradovich - 60
Rigo - 50
Lomachenko - 40

lefty wrote: Selby will beat the very limited Gradovich and then milk that title for all it's worth against the likes of Warrington. I bet we wont see him fighting the likes of Walters, Gonzalez, Mares, Donaire, etc for awhile to put it lightly.

I dont think he beats Gradovich. He aint that limited ask the Australian dude. I agree though if he gets his hands on some kind of title, even a fake one, Eddie will milk it till the doomsday with "doemstic dustups" noone want to see outside Leeds.

Yeah but the Australian guy you're talking about Dib wasnt that great either.

world ranked wrote:Please somebody tell me is Lee Selby is these convo who has he faced.

He is about to face Gradovich.

Donaire's poor tactics made Walters look better than he actually is. Welshjack mentioned Lee Selby as a possible future opponent and was laughed at. However if Lee can take Walters power (and that's a big 'if') then he could outbox Walters. Walters is technically pretty average.

Mares, Rigondeaux, Lomachenko beat him clearly, in my view.

I'm 50/50 on Gradovich, pretty much the same for Gonzalez.

He's a big, strong featherweight, and he can certainly beat a lot of guys, saying he loses to those above is not saying he's a bad fighter. But I don't think he's ultimately on their level. Donaire can be a bit lazy anyway, and still hurt Walters. But his heart doesn't seem to be in it anymore.

Lomachenko has the highest chance, but other than him, I am confident nobody beats Walters at 126 for the next 2-years.. After that Walters needs to move up.

crusader wrote:I don't recall many people here claiming that Rigo was lucky to beat Donaire. Was it the same people who are now calling the latter shot as you suggest or was it other posters?

I don't recall anyone calling Rigo lucky, or Donaire "shot" now.

Loma and Rigo would probably beat Walters. Gonzalez is a really experienced fighter, I think it would be a very close fight.