Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

rio
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Dunstan wrote:
palooka wrote:As long as he does a bit more than Nicky Cook.
Burns v Cook was an utter disgrace, should never have been sanctioned (a win over Youssef Al Hamidi after TWO years out does NOT earn a title shot)

But Cook, his trainer, manager etc MUST have known he was in no fit state to fight.
Barker did exactly the same again strum. There was no way this way just a freak injury they knew well before and wanted 1 last pay day.
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Terry Dooley wrote:He was counted out in the act of rising, similar to Malik Scott.
Still a bit alarming that Ramogoadi was able to put him down in the first place.
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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rio wrote:
Dunstan wrote:
palooka wrote:As long as he does a bit more than Nicky Cook.
Burns v Cook was an utter disgrace, should never have been sanctioned (a win over Youssef Al Hamidi after TWO years out does NOT earn a title shot)

But Cook, his trainer, manager etc MUST have known he was in no fit state to fight.
Barker did exactly the same again strum. There was no way this way just a freak injury they knew well before and wanted 1 last pay day.
The Dr who checks them out pre bout must not be too stringent, it makes the whole thing both a con and a farce.
billy nelson
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Dunstan wrote:
palooka wrote:As long as he does a bit more than Nicky Cook.
Burns v Cook was an utter disgrace, should never have been sanctioned (a win over Youssef Al Hamidi after TWO years out does NOT earn a title shot)

But Cook, his trainer, manager etc MUST have known he was in no fit state to fight.
my argument is Nicky must have been fit to make super feather, he walks about welter so to make the weight he needed to have trained hard
Yes he had an old injury but he wasn't to know it would go in the fight
Black Sam Bellamy
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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How do you explain the suspicious betting patterns Billy ? Cook was a dead man walking and his camp knew it !!
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Abril is just another overrated Cuban. He's nothing special.
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Horse wrote:Abril is just another overrated Cuban. He's nothing special.
Perhaps not, but he's still 'special' enough to humiliate Matthews.
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Re: Liam Smith v Carson Jones on the Mathews/Abril

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Dunstan wrote:
Horse wrote:Abril is just another overrated Cuban. He's nothing special.
Perhaps not, but he's still 'special' enough to humiliate Matthews.
Humliated? Theres no chance Derry will give up so even if he is beaten (which i am confident he wont be) he will go out on his shield and will of been beaten by the better man on the night if you think losing in a challenge against a legitimate world champion is humiliating then im sorry mate but why bother following the sport?
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