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Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 22:17
by punchoutsb
koolkc107 wrote:
You can get dehydrated from staying in the sun too long at the beach.
Easy to do if you are a gym rat preparing for the biggest challenge of your life.
It was a joke, slick.
You can also re-hydrate for more nefarious purposes too, so it is what it is.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 22:38
by koolkc107
punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:
You can get dehydrated from staying in the sun too long at the beach.
Easy to do if you are a gym rat preparing for the biggest challenge of your life.
It was a joke, slick.
You can also re-hydrate for more nefarious purposes too, so it is what it is.
The sarcasm wasn't lost, Holmes.
But there's just too many fanboys asking similar questions with the deadpan tho.
What they can't get around tho is that some of the most sophisticated testing was done for the May fight.
If someone was cheating, they would have caught it.
And they still can cuz USADA doesn't throw samples away...just ask Lance Armstrong.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 22:44
by punchoutsb
koolkc107 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:
You can get dehydrated from staying in the sun too long at the beach.
Easy to do if you are a gym rat preparing for the biggest challenge of your life.
It was a joke, slick.
You can also re-hydrate for more nefarious purposes too, so it is what it is.
The sarcasm wasn't lost, Holmes.
But there's just too many fanboys asking similar questions with the deadpan tho.
What they can't get around tho is that some of the most sophisticated testing was done for the May fight.
If someone was cheating, they would have caught it.
And they still can cuz USADA doesn't throw samples away...just ask Lance Armstrong.
Sophisticated drug testing still can't compare to sophisticated and educated drug use. I think it was Conte who once said the only athletes who get caught are the morons. Just sayin.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 22:49
by koolkc107
Cheaters ARE always one step ahead.
But, with all the hate for Floyd, you don't think some test-tube nerd who loves Pac gets a hold of incontrovertable proof of Floyd cheating and outs Money a long time ago?
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 22:54
by punchoutsb
koolkc107 wrote:Cheaters ARE always one step ahead.
But, with all the hate for Floyd, you don't think some test-tube nerd who loves Pac gets a hold of incontrovertable proof of Floyd cheating and outs Money a long time ago?
Lol no
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:10
by koolkc107
punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:Cheaters ARE always one step ahead.
But, with all the hate for Floyd, you don't think some test-tube nerd who loves Pac gets a hold of incontrovertable proof of Floyd cheating and outs Money a long time ago?
Lol no
You know it's true, man!
As fanatical as PacTards are, I am sure at least one of them has a job at a lab, even if it is just mopping up after the scientists leave.
You telling me one of them aint tried to steal Floyd's samples?
Easiest money I'd ever make if Vegas made book on it...
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:14
by punchoutsb
koolkc107 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:Cheaters ARE always one step ahead.
But, with all the hate for Floyd, you don't think some test-tube nerd who loves Pac gets a hold of incontrovertable proof of Floyd cheating and outs Money a long time ago?
Lol no
You know it's true, man!
As fanatical as PacTards are, I am sure at least one of them has a job at a lab, even if it is just mopping up after the scientists leave.
You telling me one of them aint tried to steal Floyd's samples?
Easiest money I'd ever make if Vegas made book on it...
Stealing medical records and results doesn't get you money; it gets you raped in prison.
And most PacTards, like their Flomo counterparts, post from local library computers or their moms basement, not the local laboratory

Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:29
by koolkc107
punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:punchoutsb wrote:
Lol no
You know it's true, man!
As fanatical as PacTards are, I am sure at least one of them has a job at a lab, even if it is just mopping up after the scientists leave.
You telling me one of them aint tried to steal Floyd's samples?
Easiest money I'd ever make if Vegas made book on it...
Stealing medical records and results doesn't get you money; it gets you raped in prison.
And most PacTards, like their Flomo counterparts, post from local library computers or their moms basement, not the local laboratory

I don't think they'd do it for money, they would do it out of their man-love for the Salty Catfish.
Prison dates hold no terror for such beings.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:36
by punchoutsb
koolkc107 wrote:
I don't think they'd do it for money, they would do it out of their man-love for the Salty Catfish.
Prison dates hold no terror for such beings.
You sound like you're speaking from experience. Have you been covering up Floyd's failed drug tests?

Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:45
by Pureist
I want to know what the Nevada commission are doing about it, the TUE issued by usada must be considered invalid due to not having the authority to issue it in the first place, so legally Floyd didn't actually have a TUE, where is the expaination for that I wonder, no TUE, no contest and a 2 year ban sounds right via Olympic testing requirements
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 23:57
by koolkc107
punchoutsb wrote:koolkc107 wrote:
I don't think they'd do it for money, they would do it out of their man-love for the Salty Catfish.
Prison dates hold no terror for such beings.
You sound like you're speaking from experience. Have you been covering up Floyd's failed drug tests?

I am speaking from observation.
Manny is a demi-god to them.
I bet half of them would stir fry his turd if given the chance.
And yeah, they'd endure a Shawshank type existence if it meant Manny's diabolical nemesis, The Floyd Demon, was humbled.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 00:00
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:I want to know what the Nevada commission are doing about it, the TUE issued by usada must be considered invalid due to not having the authority to issue it in the first place, so legally Floyd didn't actually have a TUE, where is the expaination for that I wonder, no TUE, no contest and a 2 year ban sounds right via Olympic testing requirements
If this is truly a "violation" (and of course it really isn't), they have every right to void the match into a NC or at least force a rematch under threat of doing so without compliance.
Which is exactly the story you are going to hear.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 02:10
by Datsue
OP: If you're not being paid for the heroic/hysterical amount of issue deflection/damage limitation you're attempting here, you deserve to be.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 03:40
by Pureist
koolkc107 wrote:Pureist wrote:I want to know what the Nevada commission are doing about it, the TUE issued by usada must be considered invalid due to not having the authority to issue it in the first place, so legally Floyd didn't actually have a TUE, where is the expaination for that I wonder, no TUE, no contest and a 2 year ban sounds right via Olympic testing requirements
If this is truly a "violation" (and of course it really isn't), they have every right to void the match into a NC or at least force a rematch under threat of doing so without compliance.
Which is exactly the story you are going to hear.
How isn't it a violation, an IV drip= violation, 750ml of saline and vitamins= violation, 14 times the allowable limit, floyd was the one spruiking about being clean and Olympic testing= backfire, if you read the full article it says floyd tried to write into the contract in the first negotiations with pacquaio about getting TUEs not disclosed to his opposition, that was the reason that pacquaio refused to sign in their previous negotiations
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 07:32
by caldo2025
koolkc107 wrote:When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.
They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?
If they really think he cheated, expect them to petition for it to be changed from an L to a NC. You see that, you know they were in the dark.
Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...
Manny and Arum were not allowed to speak about this because they were bound by confidential agreement in the contract so your point is not valid.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 10:56
by koolkc107
caldo2025 wrote:koolkc107 wrote:When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.
They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?
If they really think he cheated, expect them to petition for it to be changed from an L to a NC. You see that, you know they were in the dark.
Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...
Manny and Arum were not allowed to speak about this because they were bound by confidential agreement in the contract so your point is not valid.
LMAO!!!!
So lemme get this straight. You are saying Arum couldn't make a fuss about a boxer cheating his fighter because it was in the contract that cheating wouldn't be disclosed to the press, yes?
See how silly that sounds?
And it should because it is nonsense. Arum is so full of it he cant keep up with his own lies. This is what he told the LA Times:
"Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday that he wasn’t informed of Mayweather’s IV until nearly three weeks after the bout and remains “outraged” by the situation.
“After learning of this, anything I’d say would be taken as sour grapes,” Arum said. “But there are certainly things about the way USADA operates that raise questions.”
So yeah, he COULD talk. But of course he cared so much about his image...

Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 11:14
by FloydtheDuck
Koolkc is taking this pretty hard. Your whole argument was slammed and you have no rebuttal
Haha must be hard to breath choking on Floyds nuts
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 11:18
by digzee
koolkc107 wrote:caldo2025 wrote:koolkc107 wrote:When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.
They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?
If they really think he cheated, expect them to petition for it to be changed from an L to a NC. You see that, you know they were in the dark.
Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...
Manny and Arum were not allowed to speak about this because they were bound by confidential agreement in the contract so your point is not valid.
LMAO!!!!
So lemme get this straight. You are saying Arum couldn't make a fuss about a boxer cheating his fighter because it was in the contract that cheating wouldn't be disclosed to the press, yes?
See how silly that sounds?
And it should because it is nonsense. Arum is so full of it he cant keep up with his own lies. This is what he told the LA Times:
"Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday that he wasn’t informed of Mayweather’s IV until nearly three weeks after the bout and remains “outraged” by the situation.
“After learning of this, anything I’d say would be taken as sour grapes,” Arum said. “But there are certainly things about the way USADA operates that raise questions.”
So yeah, he COULD talk. But of course he cared so much about his image...

Why aren't you replying to Pureist's post?
"
How isn't it a violation, an IV drip= violation, 750ml of saline and vitamins= violation, 14 times the allowable limit, floyd was the one spruiking about being clean and Olympic testing= backfire, if you read the full article it says floyd tried to write into the contract in the first negotiations with pacquaio about getting TUEs not disclosed to his opposition, that was the reason that pacquaio refused to sign in their previous negotiations"
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 11:38
by SFW
Oh Brut, sweet sweet Brut. This has gotten all your accounts in a twist hasn't it.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 11:49
by caldo2025
koolkc107 wrote:
LMAO!!!!
So lemme get this straight. You are saying Arum couldn't make a fuss about a boxer cheating his fighter because it was in the contract that cheating wouldn't be disclosed to the press, yes?
See how silly that sounds?
And it should because it is nonsense. Arum is so full of it he cant keep up with his own lies. This is what he told the LA Times:
"Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday that he wasn’t informed of Mayweather’s IV until nearly three weeks after the bout and remains “outraged” by the situation.
“After learning of this, anything I’d say would be taken as sour grapes,” Arum said. “But there are certainly things about the way USADA operates that raise questions.”
So yeah, he COULD talk. But of course he cared so much about his image...

Speaking of the IV that Mayweather took, Arum stated "We weren't aware of it till we got notification sometime around May 21st
but there was a confidentiality clause and we couldn't say anything".
Now do you have it straight or do you need more confirmation?
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 13:00
by koolkc107
caldo2025 wrote:koolkc107 wrote:
LMAO!!!!
So lemme get this straight. You are saying Arum couldn't make a fuss about a boxer cheating his fighter because it was in the contract that cheating wouldn't be disclosed to the press, yes?
See how silly that sounds?
And it should because it is nonsense. Arum is so full of it he cant keep up with his own lies. This is what he told the LA Times:
"Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum told the Los Angeles Times on Wednesday that he wasn’t informed of Mayweather’s IV until nearly three weeks after the bout and remains “outraged” by the situation.
“After learning of this, anything I’d say would be taken as sour grapes,” Arum said. “But there are certainly things about the way USADA operates that raise questions.”
So yeah, he COULD talk. But of course he cared so much about his image...

Speaking of the IV that Mayweather took, Arum stated "We weren't aware of it till we got notification sometime around May 21st
but there was a confidentiality clause and we couldn't say anything".
Now do you have it straight or do you need more confirmation?
Mr. "I was lying yesterday but today I am telling the truth" gives two different explanations for his failure to speak out FOUR MONTHS AGO about what he claims is hos fighter being cheated and, God bless your heart, you opt to believe the most nonsensical one.
Your right to swallow whatever you like, I guess.
But, if there's a confidentiality clause, why's he talking now?
LOL!
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 13:05
by Ricky_
koolkc107 wrote:
LOL!
Your entire boxrec contribution summed up in 4 keystrokes.
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 13:05
by digzee
Pureist wrote:koolkc107 wrote:Pureist wrote:I want to know what the Nevada commission are doing about it, the TUE issued by usada must be considered invalid due to not having the authority to issue it in the first place, so legally Floyd didn't actually have a TUE, where is the expaination for that I wonder, no TUE, no contest and a 2 year ban sounds right via Olympic testing requirements
If this is truly a "violation" (and of course it really isn't), they have every right to void the match into a NC or at least force a rematch under threat of doing so without compliance.
Which is exactly the story you are going to hear.
How isn't it a violation, an IV drip= violation, 750ml of saline and vitamins= violation, 14 times the allowable limit, floyd was the one spruiking about being clean and Olympic testing= backfire, if you read the full article it says floyd tried to write into the contract in the first negotiations with pacquaio about getting TUEs not disclosed to his opposition, that was the reason that pacquaio refused to sign in their previous negotiations
Seriously why aren't you replying to Pureist's post? Is it because you have no answer?
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 13:08
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:koolkc107 wrote:Pureist wrote:I want to know what the Nevada commission are doing about it, the TUE issued by usada must be considered invalid due to not having the authority to issue it in the first place, so legally Floyd didn't actually have a TUE, where is the expaination for that I wonder, no TUE, no contest and a 2 year ban sounds right via Olympic testing requirements
If this is truly a "violation" (and of course it really isn't), they have every right to void the match into a NC or at least force a rematch under threat of doing so without compliance.
Which is exactly the story you are going to hear.
How isn't it a violation, an IV drip= violation, 750ml of saline and vitamins= violation, 14 times the allowable limit, floyd was the one spruiking about being clean and Olympic testing= backfire, if you read the full article it says floyd tried to write into the contract in the first negotiations with pacquaio about getting TUEs not disclosed to his opposition, that was the reason that pacquaio refused to sign in their previous negotiations
That bit about the TUEs being a stumbling block is coming from who? I am comfortable with that particular source having an agenda. As to 750 ml, you DO know that is around the same amount of fluid in a sports bottle sizef Gatorade, right?
We just arent talking about a whole lot of liquid...
Re: Good USADA, Bad USADA
Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 13:09
by koolkc107
Ricky_ wrote:koolkc107 wrote:
LOL!
Your entire boxrec contribution summed up in 4 keystrokes.
Better that than my entire sex life summed up 4 keystrokes
