Good USADA, Bad USADA

[koolkc107]

Perhaps the funniest thing about this non issue (so far!) is the fact that when USADA approved an unnecessary pain shot for Manny's phantom shoulder injury- which was promptly shot down by the NSAC- they were the good guys. Now, they are pawns of Demon Floyd. Here is part of their statement...it basically exonerates Mayweather:

...as already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao.  Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.  Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him.  Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.



http://www.usada.org/usada-statement-in ... ro-boxing/

[caldo2025]

Perhaps the funniest thing about this non issue (so far!) is the fact that when USADA approved an unnecessary pain shot for Manny's phantom shoulder injury- which was promptly shot down by the NSAC- they were the good guys. Now, they are pawns of Demon Floyd. Here is part of their statement...it basically exonerates Mayweather:

...as already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao.  Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.  Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him.  Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.

Haha, this is hilarious play on words. So once the TUE was granted Pacquaio was immediately notified almost 3 weeks after the fight took place. Do you understand how ridiculous that statement is. What you clipped is a gigantic play on words showing APPROVAL for things that had happened weeks prior and were against NSAC rules. You are hilarious.



http://www.usada.org/usada-statement-in ... ro-boxing/

[Ricky_]

Perhaps the funniest thing about this non issue (so far!) is the fact that when USADA approved an unnecessary pain shot for Manny's phantom shoulder injury- which was promptly shot down by the NSAC- they were the good guys. Now, they are pawns of Demon Floyd. Here is part of their statement...it basically exonerates Mayweather:

...as already publicly reported in May of this year by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC), Mr. Mayweather applied for and was granted a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) by USADA for an IV infusion of saline and vitamins that was administered prior to his May 2 fight against Manny Pacquiao.  Mr. Mayweather’s use of the IV was not prohibited under the NSAC rules at that time and would not be a violation of the NSAC rules today.  Nonetheless, because Mr. Mayweather was voluntarily taking part in a USADA program, and therefore subject to the rules of the WADA Code, he took the additional step of applying for a TUE after the IV infusion was administered in order remain in compliance with the USADA program. Although Mr. Mayweather’s application was not approved until after his fight with Mr. Pacquiao and all tests results were reported, Mr. Mayweather did disclose the infusion to USADA in advance of the IV being administered to him.  Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules.



http://www.usada.org/usada-statement-in ... ro-boxing/

I'm sorry, what is your point here?

The USADA approved Pac's pain killer shot but Nevada didn't when the request was submitted.

Floyd took an IV drip which is:

1. illegal according to the USADA's own rules
2. Wasn't even put to Nevada, he did it anyway, and Nevada didn't even find out about it until 20 days after the fight had taken place.
3. Given that NSAC refused Pac's request for a legal painkiller, it's fair to presume they wouldn't have approved an illegal IV drip.

[Nightmare Roy]

Call me a cynic, but this could all be a big marketing ploy to set up Floyds 50th fight, this paints Floyd as an even bigger pantomime villain and Manny as Holier than ever which = $$$$$$ for the rematch.

[koolkc107]

When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.

They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?

If they really think he cheated, expect them to petition for it to be changed from an L to a NC. You see that, you know they were in the dark.

Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...

[Ricky_]

When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.

They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?

Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...

There you have it... Brut's defence is "Arum has said nothing so Floyd innocent!"

[koolkc107]

When one of you guys hear Arum or Manny complaining about this, let me know.

They've known about this for over 4 months. You don't find their lack of comment a clue?

Then again, desperate folk WILL grasp at any straw they can...

There you have it... Brut's defence is "Arum has said nothing so Floyd innocent!"

The same guy moaning about tickets is gonna stay silent on this?

After his cash cow got owned?

Ok, if you say so...but then again, you think me and other posters are the same guy, so your opinions are automatically suspect.

[Ricky_]

Of all the question this scandal throws up, all you care about is what an 85 year old man thinks? Knowing Arum, he's probably got some lawyers on it.

There are serious grounds for a NC ruling.

USADA already admitted they had no jurisdiction to grant a TUE only Nevada SAC can grant one. That's a bit like the IRS issuing you with a driving licence.

Floyd fought dirty on May 2.

[Ricky_]

PS since you're so bothered by what Arum thinks, here you go:


http://boxingjunkie.com/2015/09/09/floy ... -pacquiao/

[koolkc107]

PS since you're so bothered by what Arum thinks, here you go:


http://boxingjunkie.com/2015/09/09/floy ... -pacquiao/

All this means is that you are not swift enough to realize he is commenting just now (and only when approached for comments) on information he has had for over 4 months.

No, Pretty Ricky, by complaint I mean just that.
If he and Manny think Floyd cheated, file a complaint with the NSAC and have the fight invalidated.

They've had over 4 months to do that and haven't.

This isn't hard to follow, you know....

[Ricky_]

Top Rank requested more info after being told of the TUE. The details are only just been released.

Any more weak ass?

[koolkc107]

Top Rank requested more info after being told of the TUE. The details are only just been released.

Any more weak ass?

No, the details were released May 20th, 4 months ago. From the USADA statement:

"Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules"

Immediately means last May, fanboy. But instead of asking yourself why your hero and his "plomota" didn't do jack but trade barbs and swim in the ocean, you see a conspiracy.

Today.

When "Salt water Catfish" and "Flappy Bob" who, may I remind you never met a frivolous lawsuit they didn't like, did absolutely nothing.

Checkmate, biosh!

[Ricky_]

Top Rank requested more info after being told of the TUE. The details are only just been released.

Any more weak ass?

No, the details were released May 20th, 4 months ago. From the USADA statement:

"Furthermore, once the TUE was granted, the NSAC and Mr. Pacquiao were immediately notified even though the practice is not prohibited under NSAC rules"

Immediately means last May, fanboy. But instead of asking yourself why your hero and his "plomota" didn't do jack but trade barbs and swim in the ocean, you see a conspiracy.

Today.

When "Salt water Catfish" and "Flappy Bob" who, may I remind you never met a frivolous lawsuit they didn't like, did absolutely nothing.

Checkmate, biosh!

It's like talking to a dunce. Oh wait, i am.

TR were informed, 20 days after the fight, FMJ was given a TUE for a drip. TR then requested more details which has now come to light (hence why the scandal has hit the headlines).


Your boys dirty, Brut.

[punchoutsb]

You know, I hate to be a tin foil hatter but...

Anybody think there's a possibility Dana and the Fertittas may have something to do with this information finally coming out? Give them and Ronda something to talk about with some substance?

[koolkc107]

You know, I hate to be a tin foil hatter but...

Anybody think there's a possibility Dana and the Fertittas may have something to do with this information finally coming out? Give them and Ronda something to talk about with some substance?

That's just it. This info isn't "finally coming out"

It's been "out". Arum has known. Manny has known. And if anyone thinks cheating is covered by a confidentiality clause, especially in a fight with the legacy of the eras 2 biggest names at stake, there's just nothing short of a pre-frontal lobotomy that gonna fix that kind of moron.


This youtube is dated almost 3 months ago. Enjoy.


https://youtu.be/SEWLygMvxxo

[punchoutsb]

You know, I hate to be a tin foil hatter but...

Anybody think there's a possibility Dana and the Fertittas may have something to do with this information finally coming out? Give them and Ronda something to talk about with some substance?

That's just it. This info isn't "finally coming out"

It's been "out". Arum has known. Manny has known. And if anyone thinks cheating is covered by a confidentiality clause, especially in a fight with the legacy of the eras 2 biggest names at stake, there's just nothing short of a pre-frontal lobotomy that gonna fix that kind of moron.


This youtube is dated almost 3 months ago. Enjoy.


https://youtu.be/SEWLygMvxxo

It hasn't been available to the general public, has it? I haven't seen or heard anything of it until today.

[koolkc107]

You know, I hate to be a tin foil hatter but...

Anybody think there's a possibility Dana and the Fertittas may have something to do with this information finally coming out? Give them and Ronda something to talk about with some substance?

That's just it. This info isn't "finally coming out"

It's been "out". Arum has known. Manny has known. And if anyone thinks cheating is covered by a confidentiality clause, especially in a fight with the legacy of the eras 2 biggest names at stake, there's just nothing short of a pre-frontal lobotomy that gonna fix that kind of moron.


This youtube is dated almost 3 months ago. Enjoy.


https://youtu.be/SEWLygMvxxo

It hasn't been available to the general public, has it? I haven't seen or heard anything of it until today.

I suspect it's been there all this time. And no one gave a damn (and rightly so) because it is not an issue.

What can't be spun is that one of the most sue happy promoters in the business didn't do jack when he was first told 4 months ago, and is basically saying he won't be suing now.

If there was really something there, Arum would be all over it...the guy he would be suing just made 300 million dollars...

[punchoutsb]

I suspect it's been there all this time. And no one gave a damn (and rightly so) because it is not an issue.

What can't be spun is that one of the most sue happy promoters in the business didn't do jack when he was first told 4 months ago, and is basically saying he won't be suing now.

If there was really something there, Arum would be all over it...the guy he would be suing just made 300 million dollars...

So then back to my initial tin foil hat point, there could very well be a influential billionaire/millionaire combo behind this coming to the forefront now.

So no we're back to square one.

[digzee]

You know, I hate to be a tin foil hatter but...

Anybody think there's a possibility Dana and the Fertittas may have something to do with this information finally coming out? Give them and Ronda something to talk about with some substance?

That's just it. This info isn't "finally coming out"

It's been "out". Arum has known. Manny has known. And if anyone thinks cheating is covered by a confidentiality clause, especially in a fight with the legacy of the eras 2 biggest names at stake, there's just nothing short of a pre-frontal lobotomy that gonna fix that kind of moron.


This youtube is dated almost 3 months ago. Enjoy.


https://youtu.be/SEWLygMvxxo

Do you not think he looked nervous during that interview? Especially at the beginning where he seemed like he was pretending not to understand what the interviewer was asking him then got Ellerbe to speak for him.

[koolkc107]

I suspect it's been there all this time. And no one gave a damn (and rightly so) because it is not an issue.

What can't be spun is that one of the most sue happy promoters in the business didn't do jack when he was first told 4 months ago, and is basically saying he won't be suing now.

If there was really something there, Arum would be all over it...the guy he would be suing just made 300 million dollars...

So then back to my initial tin foil hat point, there could very well be a influential billionaire/millionaire combo behind this coming to the forefront now.

So no we're back to square one.

Honestly speaking, there may be no other reason to explain the timing of this. It could be about last ditch hyping of Saturday, which everyone knows is heading straight to the toilet, buy wise. Hell, this might not top Pac-Rios in gross. Or it could be the beginnings of the okey doke for May-Pac II, fight 50.

Or it could be both.

I do smell a rat that way. Only thing I can't figure out is why would Hauser do Floyd, a guy he supposedly hates, a favor like that?

[punchoutsb]

How on earth would this help hype the Berto fight?

I doubt wild accusations of roiding is going to get the average on the fence fan to buy this crapfest.

[Ricky_]

How on earth would this help hype the Berto fight?

I doubt wild accusations of roiding is going to get the average on the fence fan to buy this crapfest.

Troll does as troll does. Brut is going into overdrive here

[koolkc107]

How on earth would this help hype the Berto fight?

I doubt wild accusations of roiding is going to get the average on the fence fan to buy this crapfest.

Any publicity is good publicity, right?

And maybe someone who wouldn't be buying gets the fight in hopes Berto does a Buster Douglas and "the cheater gets what is coming to him"

But, whether it is that or the set-up to #50, or something else entirely, here is ANOTHER proof this is old news (and hence may indeed being use to manipulate somehow)

This is Kevin Iole, dated May 22, 2015:

Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao were each tested 19 times for performance-enhancing drug use both prior to and following their May 2 mega-fight at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas, and both men passed all of the examinations.

According to records provided by the Nevada Athletic Commisison, each man gave 11 urine and eight blood samples. Among the special analyses given to the samples were Carbon Isotope Ratio Mass Spectrometry (CIR/IRMS) testing as well as tests to detect usage of EPO and human growth hormone.

Mayweather gave urine on March 13, 18, 19 and 28, April 2, 10, 15, 21 and 27 and May 1 and 2. He gave blood samples on March 13, 18 and 28, April 2, 10, 15 and 21 and May 2.

Paquiao gave urine on March 14, 17, 23 and 24, April 1, 9, 16, 22 and 27 and May 1 and 2. Pacquiao gave blood samples on March 14, 17 and 24, April 1, 9, 16 and 22 and May 2.

Mayweather also applied for, and was given, a therapeutic use exemption (TUE) for rehydration purposes after the May 1 weigh-in. He took two separate mixes. The first was a mixture of 250 ml of saline and multi-vitamins. The second was a 500 ml mixuture of saline and Vitamin C. He was urine tested both before and after taking the solutions.

Nevada rules permit the mixes that Mayweather took, but because USADA was overseeing the testing he applied for and was granted the TUE for them.

All tests came back negative

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/boxing/fl ... NlYwNzcg--

[punchoutsb]

How on earth would this help hype the Berto fight?

I doubt wild accusations of roiding is going to get the average on the fence fan to buy this crapfest.

Any publicity is good publicity, right?

And maybe someone who wouldn't be buying gets the fight in hopes Berto does a Buster Douglas and "the cheater gets what is coming to him"

That's a stretch...a real stretch.

What I don't understand is why Floyd would need to rehydrate when he never has to cut water and usually weighs about 126 on fight night

[koolkc107]

How on earth would this help hype the Berto fight?

I doubt wild accusations of roiding is going to get the average on the fence fan to buy this crapfest.

Any publicity is good publicity, right?

And maybe someone who wouldn't be buying gets the fight in hopes Berto does a Buster Douglas and "the cheater gets what is coming to him"

That's a stretch...a real stretch.

What I don't understand is why Floyd would need to rehydrate when he never has to cut water and usually weighs about 126 on fight night

You can get dehydrated from staying in the sun too long at the beach.
Easy to do if you are a gym rat preparing for the biggest challenge of your life.