The changing of the guard

[davie]

Since the retirement of Floyd we've discussed the p4p rankings constantly on here. I thought I'd look back a few years at the dramatic changes in the list in recent times
Below is the list from 2013

1. Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

2. Andre Ward

3. Juan Manuel Marquez

4. Sergio Martinez

5. DELETED

6. Nonito Donaire

7. Manny Pacquiao

8. Wladimir Klitschko

9. Timothy Bradley

10. DELETED

Lots of old timers on there, lots of guy who had been in and around that list for a lot of years and a lot of names who aren't there any longer (and if they are, most likely wont be a great deal longer.) ***and 2 names which were so completely unworthy of mention I have had to delete them so Horse can take my point seriously***

***EDIT - The following point is the core message I was trying to convey in this thread, but was sadely lost as a result of Ring magazine stupidly listing Adrian Broner as a p4p contender, I can now only apologise for my part in Ring magazines decision making in 2012***
The list had become quite stagnant and largely unchanged for a number of years
It's gone through a huge overhaul, with Chocolatito, GGG, Kovalev, Crawford, Brook, Rigo, Canelo, Lara being on most peoples lists and Joshua, Usyk, Beterbiev, Lomachenko, Frampton, Yamanaka & Inoue etc likely to crash it soon. It's a refreshing change to the top of the boxing scene and quite an exciting time to be watching the sport.

Horse, please find attached an ammended opening post.
Hopefully the remaining 8 names were, in 2012, worthy of your approval on a p4p list.

I can only apologise for being as stupid as to post a p4p without running it by your expert self.

Now would you like to discuss the original, genuinely intended, topic regarding the refreshing turnaround of widely accepted names at the very top of the sport?

[Horse]

Horse, please find attached an ammended opening post.
Hopefully the remaining 8 names were, in 2012, worthy of your approval on a p4p list.

I can only apologise for being as stupid as to post a p4p without running it by your expert self.

Running it past yourself should have been enough. You surely knew that neither Broner nor Guerrero belonged in the top 10.

Now would you like to discuss the original, genuinely intended, topic regarding the refreshing turnaround of widely accepted names at the very top of the sport?

Has there been a faster overhaul than usual? I'm not sure that there has been.

It's gone through a huge overhaul, with Chocolatito, GGG, Kovalev, Crawford, Brook, Rigo, Canelo, Lara being on most peoples lists and Joshua, Usyk, Beterbiev, Lomachenko, Frampton, Yamanaka & Inoue etc likely to crash it soon. It's a refreshing change to the top of the boxing scene and quite an exciting time to be watching the sport.

Who has Brook in their top 10 (just looked and Ring do, oh dear)? Lara is only ever listed by that nutter who is obsessed with Lara.

Joshua will have to beat Wladimir to have a chance of getting into the P4P top 10 any time soon and I doubt that will happen.

[davie]

Horse, please find attached an ammended opening post.
Hopefully the remaining 8 names were, in 2012, worthy of your approval on a p4p list.

I can only apologise for being as stupid as to post a p4p without running it by your expert self.

Running it past yourself should have been enough. You surely knew that neither Broner nor Guerrero belonged in the top 10.

I did. But it wasn't my list

Now would you like to discuss the original, genuinely intended, topic regarding the refreshing turnaround of widely accepted names at the very top of the sport?

Has there been a faster overhaul than usual? I'm not sure that there has been.

Yes, that's exactly my point.
Many of the names like Floyd, Manny, Bernard, JMM, Wlad had been at the top of the sport for over a decade.
Now 3 years later we have new faces. The average age has no doubt decreased significantly. I'm sure Ring (yes them) state how long people have been on their p4p list. I'm sure the duration of many of the current crop would be significantly lower than it would be for those occupying the top ten in 2012

It's gone through a huge overhaul, with Chocolatito, GGG, Kovalev, Crawford, Brook, Rigo, Canelo, Lara being on most peoples lists and Joshua, Usyk, Beterbiev, Lomachenko, Frampton, Yamanaka & Inoue etc likely to crash it soon. It's a refreshing change to the top of the boxing scene and quite an exciting time to be watching the sport.

Who has Brook in their top 10 (just looked and Ring do, oh dear)? Lara is only ever listed by that nutter who is obsessed with Lara.

well the clue is in the statement, "most peoples" lists. Not mine, his best win was debatable and against a bang average Shaun Porter, I'd tip Khan as the slight favourite to beat him. But people do have him in there. Most? Probably not, but it was just a blanket statement listing a bunch of names I've seen on here recently. A list of young or reasonably new faces on p4p lists.
But again you pick up one or two names to make your point when I was trying to simply highlight a general trend towards fresh faces on the p4p lists

Joshua will have to beat Wladimir to have a chance of getting into the P4P top 10 any time soon and I doubt that will happen.

again, 1 name, to disprove a general theme. A good few of those names will appear on p4p lists in the not too distant future (you may note that the above, non exhaustive list, has 15 names. Of course they won't make a p4p top 10.
But as the hottest prospect in the heavyweight ranks, AJ has as good a chance as any. And I'd expect Wlad to retire or 'get old' before AJ faces him. .