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Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 03:24
by ILikeBeer
IT'S THE BEST WORLD TITLE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!!!
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 09:58
by Crease
In my view, the WBU belt serves a purpose in today's boxing. Obviously it should never be held anywhere near the same regard as "the big four" - but for fringe fighters that could really make it their own. People like Audley Harrison or David Price could really make a go of it, provided the don't get too carried away and stick to fighting a lower standard of opposition.
It could be used as a nice wee earner.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 13:39
by LucaDiCaro
Cazelo wrote:LucaDiCaro wrote:The World Boxing Union created by Jon Robinson was in my view THE World Boxing Championship - OK, as someone not from the boxing world at that time, I'm sure that's because nearly every World title fight on UK TV at that time was WBU.
As someone on here has pointed out there are currently two versions, more or less, the German version was always known as the WBUv and the version I am involved with is the American owned version
That aside the reason I became involved is for a more nostalgic reason, or romantic as those that know me well would say. The WBU was the first World Championship organisation that was created and based right here in the UK and I wanted to bring it back home.
Unfortunately the current owners were not willing to sell it to me, however they were willing to license me the European rights.
I am proud to be associated with the WBU and even prouder to have so many former WBU champions involved with WBU Europe and what's more I will not give up trying to get the WBU back here as well as build it into a universally approved Championship that the top boxers would be proud to compete for.
It is the same belt as the one Hatton had thought isn't it? By that I mean the design?
Yes, the same design - the WBUv version is nothing like the original design
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 15:11
by Stuarty
I remember I was at a show and Lawerence Murphy won the WBU belt against Wayne Elcock I'm sure? Was on the news on the Monday, Scotland has a new world champ. I was glowing with embarrassment! That says it all! Also Lee McCallister held the title...... Deary me!!
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 17:07
by gobbles
When it first started, the WBO had a brief period where it was making inroads in the US and was threatening to be the new low-grade WBU (Hasim Rahman boxed Corrie Sanders for one), but it quickly became a joke, but Warren used it because he had a contract with Sky which guaranteed a certain amount of money for a world title fight, without specifying what a world title fight. Hence Warren would promote WBU title fights and Hearn would promote IBO and WBF title fights, which, apart from a few big Hatton shows, all came seemingly from York Hall, Huddersfield Leisure Centre, or the Harvey Hadden Leisure Centre. And they were all rubbish.
Good riddance. It takes the credit away from boxers who have actually won a world title.
To claim the WBU is THE world title is breathtaking.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 23 Nov 2015, 20:22
by ClivePatrickLyons
biglefthook wrote:what's people's views on the wbu world title ? I know in england its only mbc shows there fought for.
but I see the slagging the titles get but I'm just wondering why pregrudge or trash a young prospect or even a contender at the end of there careers the chance to have a nice belt and be a world champion.
the wbf (world boxing Federation there is a few wbf's) the iba and the ibo are great run organisations.
particularly the ibo which has some big namesas there world champions.
Roy jones has won a host of theese miner titles and good on him or anyone else trying to make a living and get some belts for the mantelpiece.
it wasn't so long ago the BBB of C was happy for Ricky Hatton to have the wbu belt and defend it 12 or 13 times
The problem is especially the IBO they claim their belt is a legit World title because they let Wlad Klitschko and GGG wear the belt into the ring problem is when were they ordered to make a mandatory defence of the IBO title :?? I'll tell you NEVER
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 08:24
by Dan Dares
What a pile of utter wank that website is. Pretty Vacant, and the rankings were done on the back of a fag packet, with a few names chucked in to make it look legit.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 09:48
by milpool
Dan Dares wrote:
What a pile of utter wank that website is. Pretty Vacant, and the rankings were done on the back of a fag packet, with a few names chucked in to make it look legit.
They include people like Allan Green, who hasn't fought since 2013, and Brian Magee who hasn't fought since 2012. I'm sure there are other names included that have retired/given up/died...
Preston Haliburton, ranked number 8 in the heavyweight division, has a record of 14-0. However, his opponents have a combined record of 16-63-3, with his last six opponents not having a win to their name when they stepped in the ring with him. Oh, I forgot to mention, he hasn't fought since December 2012.
Legitimate world title? Don't make me laugh.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 09:58
by Bard of Boxrec
LucaDiCaro wrote:The World Boxing Union created by Jon Robinson was in my view THE World Boxing Championship - OK, as someone not from the boxing world at that time, I'm sure that's because nearly every World title fight on UK TV at that time was WBU.
As someone on here has pointed out there are currently two versions, more or less, the German version was always known as the WBUv and the version I am involved with is the American owned version
That aside the reason I became involved is for a more nostalgic reason, or romantic as those that know me well would say. The WBU was the first World Championship organisation that was created and based right here in the UK and I wanted to bring it back home.
Unfortunately the current owners were not willing to sell it to me, however they were willing to license me the European rights.
I am proud to be associated with the WBU and even prouder to have so many former WBU champions involved with WBU Europe and what's more I will not give up trying to get the WBU back here as well as build it into a universally approved Championship that the top boxers would be proud to compete for.
Lol
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 24 Nov 2015, 16:36
by johnswan1
Absolute piece of crap of a belt, utterly worthless.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 25 Nov 2015, 01:03
by Wales
Crease wrote: but for fringe fighters People like Audley Harrison or David Price could really make a go of it, provided the don't get too carried away and stick to fighting a lower standard of opposition..
Audley Harrison won the WBF title and even he doesn't call himself a former world champion. That's testament to the legitimacy of the belt!
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 26 Nov 2015, 14:25
by Crease
Wales wrote:Audley Harrison won the WBF title and even he doesn't call himself a former world champion. That's testament to the legitimacy of the belt!
Yet the WBF Title is even more obscure that the WBU Title.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 28 Nov 2015, 13:25
by Cazelo
Crease wrote:Wales wrote:Audley Harrison won the WBF title and even he doesn't call himself a former world champion. That's testament to the legitimacy of the belt!
Yet the WBF Title is even more obscure that the WBU Title.
How would people rank the titles going down the list?
Following the big 4, the IBO is quite respected. Then it would be WBU I'd imagine
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 07:26
by questionmore
Cazelo wrote:
How would people rank the titles going down the list?
Following the big 4, the IBO is quite respected. Then it would be WBU I'd imagine
Put the British (or even Southern Area) champs in against them and they win hands down against the WBU. The WBU are not even recognised on boxrec.
I think your just imagining things
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 07:32
by steve689
LucaDiCaro wrote:The World Boxing Union created by Jon Robinson was in my view THE World Boxing Championship - OK, as someone not from the boxing world at that time, I'm sure that's because nearly every World title fight on UK TV at that time was WBU
Say what?
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 07:34
by steve689
Riddick Blowe wrote:LucaDiCaro wrote:The World Boxing Union created by Jon Robinson was in my view THE World Boxing Championship - OK, as someone not from the boxing world at that time, I'm sure that's because nearly every World title fight on UK TV at that time was WBU.
As someone on here has pointed out there are currently two versions, more or less, the German version was always known as the WBUv and the version I am involved with is the American owned version
That aside the reason I became involved is for a more nostalgic reason, or romantic as those that know me well would say. The WBU was the first World Championship organisation that was created and based right here in the UK and I wanted to bring it back home.
Unfortunately the current owners were not willing to sell it to me, however they were willing to license me the European rights.
I am proud to be associated with the WBU and even prouder to have so many former WBU champions involved with WBU Europe and what's more I will not give up trying to get the WBU back here as well as build it into a universally approved Championship that the top boxers would be proud to compete for.
Lol
The American version is owned, I believe, by Don Moose Lewis which rings alarm bells immediately.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 17:05
by expe
Last night in Canada, Walter Rojas, who has been knocked out by Jamie Conlan and Kevin Satchell amongst others, has never been past 4 rounds, has just one win against an opponent with a winning record(2-1), lost his last two fights in the first round and has spent his career fighting between minimumweight and super flyweight, fought Tyson Cave for the WBU "World" Super Bantamweight title. Mr Di Caro describes him as seriously tough, which I suppose is fair considering how often he gets knocked out and comes back for more.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/448458
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 17:28
by questionmore
expe wrote:Last night in Canada, Walter Rojas, who has been knocked out by Jamie Conlan and Kevin Satchell amongst others, has never been past 4 rounds, has just one win against an opponent with a winning record(2-1), lost his last two fights in the first round and has spent his career fighting between minimumweight and super flyweight, fought Tyson Cave for the WBU "World" Super Bantamweight title. Mr Di Caro describes him as seriously tough, which I suppose is fair considering how often he gets knocked out and comes back for more.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/448458
Credit where credits due - they checked this late replacement weren't knocked out in the last 7 days
.... although this visa issue is running a bit thin now.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 29 Nov 2015, 22:23
by Wales
steve689 wrote:LucaDiCaro wrote:The World Boxing Union created by Jon Robinson was in my view THE World Boxing Championship - OK, as someone not from the boxing world at that time, I'm sure that's because nearly every World title fight on UK TV at that time was WBU
Say what?
Back in early - mid 2000s loads of people thought Ricky Hatton was world champion. After all they saw him defending the title on sky sports on multiple occassions. It suited Sky and Warren to keep up the facade and milk the public
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:01
by CharlesListon
questionmore wrote:expe wrote:Last night in Canada, Walter Rojas, who has been knocked out by Jamie Conlan and Kevin Satchell amongst others, has never been past 4 rounds, has just one win against an opponent with a winning record(2-1), lost his last two fights in the first round and has spent his career fighting between minimumweight and super flyweight, fought Tyson Cave for the WBU "World" Super Bantamweight title. Mr Di Caro describes him as seriously tough, which I suppose is fair considering how often he gets knocked out and comes back for more.
http://boxrec.com/boxer/448458
Credit where credits due - they checked this late replacement weren't knocked out in the last 7 days
.... although this visa issue is running a bit thin now.
Harsh, Walter had managed almost 2 rounds of boxing in his last two contests. That more than qualifies him as a tough, world title challenger. Guys who got ko'd 7 days previously can only fight for European Titles.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:14
by pimp
I use to go to the Hatton fights at the MEN in the early 2000 fighting the likes of Freddie Pendleton and Mike Stewart for the wbu title there was 10,000 there every time. Warren and sky ripping the public off the shows were a farce I don't no how they got away with it, at one point Anthony farnell, Michael Armstrong and Hatton all manchesters wbu world titles. Ha
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 05:36
by Batley18
WBU used to have an ok standing about 15-20 years ago, but not now. It is a terrible title and will not ever be thought of differently.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 06:20
by Lenny
It's even more meaningless now as the main belts are even more of a farce with super silver champions. I don't think boxing has ever been in as much of a mess as to who the actual champs are in each division. When Hatton was WBU most knew Tszyu and Judah were the main guys and wow they actually fought. Hatton fought better fighters during his WBU reign than say Brook, Cleverly, Bellew, Fury, Crolla, Degale etc. did before they fought for world titles. This isn't vindication for the WBU, just a sign that no belts are above criticism
Depressingly I think the only actual champions in boxing right now are Fury, Rigo and Gonzales.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 30 Nov 2015, 07:19
by questionmore
In all fairness they are quite similar:
Tyson fights a bum to win the WBU world title.
Tyson fights an champion and makes him look like a bum to win the WBO WBA & IBF world title.
Re: THE WBU WORLD TITLE
Posted: 01 Dec 2015, 18:55
by campfire
DD 
