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Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:10
by Loftgroov
davie wrote:
ttornado wrote:
magwitch wrote:These Visa regs should go right out the window when boxing matches need to be made.
:doh:
The day after it happens every Syrian on the planet applies for a boxing license
That may not be such a bad thing. Fast Eddie has PPV cards to stack.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:23
by davie
Loftgroov wrote:
davie wrote:
ttornado wrote: :doh:
The day after it happens every Syrian on the planet applies for a boxing license
That may not be such a bad thing. Fast Eddie has PPV cards to stack.
:lol:

He hasn't got enough Sky dates to keep all his current fighters busy though

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:28
by gerryd77
ttornado wrote:
magwitch wrote:These Visa regs should go right out the window when boxing matches need to be made.
:doh:
It's not like he has a history of being in countries where he was not meant to be or anything.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:33
by Boxing Prospect
...so the idea of a Rigo fight going ahead with no issues at all has again been blown up. The guy has, time and time again, proven to be a real difficulty to deal with, both in the ring and out of it.

All fair and good to blame Bob Arum for failing to promote the guy and HBO for failing to back him but he seems like nightmare to work with, especially with Caribe, who seem more and more like cowboys every time they are mentioned.

I understand he needs to train, but does he need to go to Russia to do that? Are he and his team not aware of Holidays in the country he is visiting? Are he and his team not able to secure a visa well before travelling to Russia? Are he and his team not aware of the frosty relationship between Russia and the UK at the minute.

Anyway I guess that's another bridge burned if this fails happen, and there's not many bridges left for him.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:39
by Horse
Typical Rigondeaux.

A clown surrounded by clowns.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:42
by BigSexy
Boxing Prospect wrote:...so the idea of a Rigo fight going ahead with no issues at all has again been blown up. The guy has, time and time again, proven to be a real difficulty to deal with, both in the ring and out of it.

All fair and good to blame Bob Arum for failing to promote the guy and HBO for failing to back him but he seems like nightmare to work with, especially with Caribe, who seem more and more like cowboys every time they are mentioned.

I understand he needs to train, but does he need to go to Russia to do that? Are he and his team not aware of Holidays in the country he is visiting? Are he and his team not able to secure a visa well before travelling to Russia? Are he and his team not aware of the frosty relationship between Russia and the UK at the minute.

Anyway I guess that's another bridge burned if this fails happen, and there's not many bridges left for him.
My thoughts exactly.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:47
by Boxerbeetle
gerryd77 wrote:
ttornado wrote:
magwitch wrote:These Visa regs should go right out the window when boxing matches need to be made.
:doh:
It's not like he has a history of being in countries where he was not meant to be or anything.
Hopefully Rigo doesn't get given a temporary UK visa then try to claim asylum, that would give the Daily Mail a field day :o

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 08:56
by Larrylefthook
fornicate Rigo, he wants the big fights and big money but does fornicate all to get it, he should have been training over here anyway and gone to Frampton-Quigg to make his presence felt not hiding in fornicating Russia of all places.

I hope Frampton fights Donaire or moves up and fights LSC or Selby, he's worked hard to build a fan base, what's Rigo done? Got the boot from American TV because of his safety first style. He's got enough skill to dominate and put on great performances but we get shit like his last fight. I'm done with him.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:10
by lefty
:lol:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
gerryd77 wrote:
ttornado wrote: :doh:
It's not like he has a history of being in countries where he was not meant to be or anything.
Hopefully Rigo doesn't get given a temporary UK visa then try to claim asylum, that would give the Daily Mail a field day :o
:lol: That would be hilarious.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:15
by handsofstone
olij999 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
olij999 wrote:If this is because UK authorities have been slow or unfair in processing the visa, Rigondeaux and Jazza Dickens both have my sympathies. But if it is the situation that sometimes seems to happen where the manager / adviser in question has left it too late / has forgotten to deal with getting the visa sorted, then my sympathies only lie with Jazza Dickens. I hope it gets sorted - would be good to see Rigondeaux fight on these shores, and I hate it when a "whoa!" fight comes up and then doesn't happen, like Broner v Sykes.
Why didn't Broner v Sykes happen? I remember being disappointed, but don't remember why - was that a visa issue as well?
Don't think it was a visa thing, but can't remember what did happen!
Im sure it was supporting another big fight and that fell through so Broner/Sykes fell by the wayside,cant remember what the main event was though

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:26
by Stuarty
Larrylefthook wrote:eff Rigo, he wants the big fights and big money but does eff all to get it, he should have been training over here anyway and gone to Frampton-Quigg to make his presence felt not hiding in effing Russia of all places.

I hope Frampton fights Donaire or moves up and fights LSC or Selby, he's worked hard to build a fan base, what's Rigo done? Got the boot from American TV because of his safety first style. He's got enough skill to dominate and put on great performances but we get poo like his last fight. I'm done with him.
WTF is he doing in Russia in any case?

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:33
by Boxerbeetle
handsofstone wrote:
olij999 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Why didn't Broner v Sykes happen? I remember being disappointed, but don't remember why - was that a visa issue as well?
Don't think it was a visa thing, but can't remember what did happen!
Im sure it was supporting another big fight and that fell through so Broner/Sykes fell by the wayside,cant remember what the main event was though
Oh yeah, that rings a bell now - think it might have been the Khan v Peterson rematch which was cancelled when Peterson failed his test?

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:35
by Larrylefthook
Stuarty30 wrote:
Larrylefthook wrote:eff Rigo, he wants the big fights and big money but does eff all to get it, he should have been training over here anyway and gone to Frampton-Quigg to make his presence felt not hiding in effing Russia of all places.

I hope Frampton fights Donaire or moves up and fights LSC or Selby, he's worked hard to build a fan base, what's Rigo done? Got the boot from American TV because of his safety first style. He's got enough skill to dominate and put on great performances but we get poo like his last fight. I'm done with him.
WTF is he doing in Russia in any case?
Exactly! Its not like there's nowhere to train over here. Its just unprofessional to me to leave it this late, a world champion should be in the country 2 weeks before the fight no mater who the opponent is, this is very disrespectful.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:36
by The Insider
Really hoping they sort this out. Doubt I'll get the chance to see him live in the flesh again.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 09:42
by dbf
In russia because his coach pedro diaz.was over there training chagaev

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:00
by Stuarty
dbf wrote:In russia because his coach pedro diaz.was over there training chagaev
In that case I'm sure some of them friendly Chechen gentlemen with their machine guns could sort him out with some 'paperwork' :TU:

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:01
by Oiky
what a palava

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:11
by chrisnew86
Not on Franks case but its one thing after another for him.

Another show where you buy a ticket and end up feeling dissapointed. The main event will be decent though, looking forward to that still.

Date changes, fighters pulling out, poor sales and now no visa!!

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:40
by ste1983
chrisnew86 wrote:Not on Franks case but its one thing after another for him.
I had a ticket for Frankie Gavin v Van Heerden and got AJ in a walkover against Love because Eddie needed Gavin as an opponent for Brooke on a pay per view show, I also had a ticket for Eggington v Gavin and got Eggington v Evans (still a good fight but a think all will agree not as good). Both of those shows were promoted by Matchroom (and it was the main event that was effected) so I don't think its always one thing after another just for FW

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:41
by Stuarty
Boxing Prospect wrote:...so the idea of a Rigo fight going ahead with no issues at all has again been blown up. The guy has, time and time again, proven to be a real difficulty to deal with, both in the ring and out of it.

All fair and good to blame Bob Arum for failing to promote the guy and HBO for failing to back him but he seems like nightmare to work with, especially with Caribe, who seem more and more like cowboys every time they are mentioned.

I understand he needs to train, but does he need to go to Russia to do that? Are he and his team not aware of Holidays in the country he is visiting? Are he and his team not able to secure a visa well before travelling to Russia? Are he and his team not aware of the frosty relationship between Russia and the UK at the minute.

Anyway I guess that's another bridge burned if this fails happen, and there's not many bridges left for him.
Think it was yourself who mentioned something about him being difficult to deal with the other week. I hadn't realised this was the case. I thought with him coming over here to fight on an undercard and him constantly calling folk out that he would've been pretty easy going. He's in the 'who needs him' club and the top guys seem to all be looking for an excuse not to fight him so this latest balls up is just going to set him back further and give his targets another excuse (don't blame them tbh). Agree with what you say, it's hard to see just where he goes from here if the reports are true. Hell mend em!

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:43
by Stuarty
ste1983 wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:Not on Franks case but its one thing after another for him.
I had a ticket for Frankie Gavin v Van Heerden and got AJ in a walkover against Love because Eddie needed Gavin as an opponent for Brooke on a pay per view show, I also had a ticket for Eggington v Gavin and got Eggington v Evans (still a good fight but a think all will agree not as good). Both of those shows were promoted by Matchroom (and it was the main event that was effected) so I don't think its always one thing after another just for FW
Sounds like you've dodged a bullet there. Frankie is a cure for insomnia. What is happening with him anyway? Has he got a comeback planned?

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 10:44
by ste1983
Stuarty30 wrote:
ste1983 wrote:
chrisnew86 wrote:Not on Franks case but its one thing after another for him.
I had a ticket for Frankie Gavin v Van Heerden and got AJ in a walkover against Love because Eddie needed Gavin as an opponent for Brooke on a pay per view show, I also had a ticket for Eggington v Gavin and got Eggington v Evans (still a good fight but a think all will agree not as good). Both of those shows were promoted by Matchroom (and it was the main event that was effected) so I don't think its always one thing after another just for FW
Sounds like you've dodged a bullet there. Frankie is a cure for insomnia. What is happening with him anyway? Has he got a comeback planned?
Think his meeting with the board is tomorrow so depends on that I think.

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 11:22
by magwitch
olij999 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
olij999 wrote:If this is because UK authorities have been slow or unfair in processing the visa, Rigondeaux and Jazza Dickens both have my sympathies. But if it is the situation that sometimes seems to happen where the manager / adviser in question has left it too late / has forgotten to deal with getting the visa sorted, then my sympathies only lie with Jazza Dickens. I hope it gets sorted - would be good to see Rigondeaux fight on these shores, and I hate it when a "whoa!" fight comes up and then doesn't happen, like Broner v Sykes.
Why didn't Broner v Sykes happen? I remember being disappointed, but don't remember why - was that a visa issue as well?
Don't think it was a visa thing, but can't remember what did happen!
I once read an in depth interview profiling Dewsbury's Gary Sykes (somewhere Yorkshire anyway) in which the very question of Broner was answered. It nearly happened twice - not once. Regretably I can't remember the reason but I know they were covered.

He's done a sideline in Computing, if that's any help... :-?

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 11:26
by magwitch
gerryd77 wrote:
ttornado wrote:
magwitch wrote:These Visa regs should go right out the window when boxing matches need to be made.
:doh:
It's not like he has a history of being in countries where he was not meant to be or anything.
Get over yourselves it was a farking joke. :TU:

Re: Rigondeaux's got no Visa ?

Posted: 08 Mar 2016, 11:31
by magwitch
Oiky wrote:what a palava
Or even a pavlova!