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Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 22:49
by ikorolev
Therealjudge wrote:I think it has to be Callum smith already.. And he's only getting better and better..
WTF are you talking about ? Smith fought NOBODY. He is absolutely untested. He didn't look so good against C level Rebrasse and was seemingly rocked by a C level opponent he fought in his last fight. Until he fights a good pressure fighter or somebody unorthodox like Bika, there is no grounds to put him above current champions.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:02
by ikorolev
Therealjudge wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Therealjudge wrote:I think it has to be Callum smith already.. And he's only getting better and better..
WTF are you talking about ? Smith fought NOBODY. He is absolutely untested. He didn't look so good against C level Rebrasse and was seemingly rocked by a C level opponent he fought in his last fight. Until he fights a good pressure fighter or somebody unorthodox like Bika, there is no grounds to put him above current champions.
Rocked in his last fight? He blew mohoumadi away in a round!! Wtf are you talking about.. You'll eat your words sooner rather than later.. He would absolutely destroy badou jack and James de gale!! And there the two champs..
Yes, he blew the bum away but was rocked before that. I will not have to eat any words, as the only thing I am saying is that he is absolutely untested.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:17
by ikorolev
Therealjudge wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Therealjudge wrote:
Rocked in his last fight? He blew mohoumadi away in a round!! Wtf are you talking about.. You'll eat your words sooner rather than later.. He would absolutely destroy badou jack and James de gale!! And there the two champs..
Yes, he blew the bum away but was rocked before that. I will not have to eat any words, as the only thing I am saying is that he is absolutely untested.
Hahaha.. You mean the bum that's never been stopped?? You mean the bum that degale went 12 rounds with?? Cmon man step yo game up.. Pfft!
Yes, the bum who lost to Nikola Sjekloca and Cristian Sanavia.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:32
by Taki...
Groves has 3 votes, Jack none... makes sense :lol:

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:38
by ikorolev
Therealjudge wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Therealjudge wrote:
Hahaha.. You mean the bum that's never been stopped?? You mean the bum that degale went 12 rounds with?? Cmon man step yo game up.. Pfft!
Yes, the bum who lost to Nikola Sjekloca and Cristian Sanavia.
If your a betting man.. And you put your money where your mouth is!! Il lay any bet you like, that smith beats degale, badou jack, and even zurdo.. Although zurdo would be the toughest assignment.. He cleans up as soon as he gets the chance.. Which won't be long buddy.. I effing promise you.. And il clean out your betting account while I'm at it..
You are clearly dumb. I've never said that Callum isn't good. I just said that he is untested. Why would I bet against him ?

His best opponent was boxrec #20 (at the time) Rocky Fukin Fielding !

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:38
by ikorolev
Taki... wrote:Groves has 3 votes, Jack none... makes sense :lol:
The forum is dominated by Brits.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:48
by Tarkus
ikorolev wrote:
Tarkus wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
You are clearly English. Sturm would comfortably beat any of Callum's opponents.
I am a fan of Callum Smith in the same extant as Ramirez. Both are exciting fighters that I hope clean up the mess of a division. What I am not fan of is these Germans that sit home with their belts, fight bums and duck the world class opponents.
So, you are English, right ? And you obviously got something against Russians calling Chudinov a bum.
How did you arrive to that conclusion from what I said above is astonishing. I call plenty of English fighters bums don't worry about it. English, Russians, Mexicans, Americans, all are the same to me. Sometimes I don't even mind French.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 03 May 2016, 23:59
by ikorolev
Tarkus wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Tarkus wrote: I am a fan of Callum Smith in the same extant as Ramirez. Both are exciting fighters that I hope clean up the mess of a division. What I am not fan of is these Germans that sit home with their belts, fight bums and duck the world class opponents.
So, you are English, right ? And you obviously got something against Russians calling Chudinov a bum.
How did you arrive to that conclusion from what I said above is astonishing. I call plenty of English fighters bums don't worry about it. English, Russians, Mexicans, Americans, all are the same to me. Sometimes I don't even mind French.
Why can't you just answer the question ? What country are you from ?

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 00:12
by Tarkus
ikorolev wrote:
Tarkus wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
So, you are English, right ? And you obviously got something against Russians calling Chudinov a bum.
How did you arrive to that conclusion from what I said above is astonishing. I call plenty of English fighters bums don't worry about it. English, Russians, Mexicans, Americans, all are the same to me. Sometimes I don't even mind French.
Why can't you just answer the question ? What country are you from ?

I dont have country.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 00:43
by Taki...
ikorolev wrote:
Taki... wrote:Groves has 3 votes, Jack none... makes sense :lol:
The forum is dominated by Brits.
I would have assumed that -- irrespective of nationality -- people voting for Groves would have seen his fight with Jack... and noted that he lost.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 01:08
by ikorolev
Taki... wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
Taki... wrote:Groves has 3 votes, Jack none... makes sense :lol:
The forum is dominated by Brits.
I would have assumed that -- irrespective of nationality -- people voting for Groves would have seen his fight with Jack... and noted that he lost.
Unconditional love is blind.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 10:49
by PredatorHayds
For me DeGale is the #1 in the division but looks very beatable.
He switches off so much that anyone with a bit of skill and a high workrate has a chance.

Ramirez and Smith may be able to clean up the division between then.

Smith huge for the weight and question marks about how long he stays at Super-Middle.

Chudinov-Smith would be a great fight.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 11:05
by ikorolev
PredatorHayds wrote:For me DeGale is the #1 in the division but looks very beatable.
He switches off so much that anyone with a bit of skill and a high workrate has a chance.

Ramirez and Smith may be able to clean up the division between then.

Smith huge for the weight and question marks about how long he stays at Super-Middle.

Chudinov-Smith would be a great fight.
Yep, Jack will probably be ducking, and Chudinov should get his belt back when Sturm's B sample results are ready, so Smith could get the title.

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 11:16
by Oiky
i'd say ramirez :bag:

Re: The best super middleweight

Posted: 04 May 2016, 11:40
by ikorolev
Smith vs Groves/Murray winner would also be a good indicator of quality.