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foxdog1923 wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Top 8 opponents to date according to BoxRec ratings:

JOSEPH PARKER
Minto - 94 pts
Meehan - 89 pts
Saglam - 64 pts
Costa Jnr - 59 pts
Bergman - 55 pts
Williams - 40 pts
Martz - 37 pts
Tupou - 32 pts
TOTAL = 470 points

HUGHIE FURY
Rudenko - 46 pts
Kassi - 38 pts
Arias - 30 pts
Guinn - 26 pts
Darch - 14 pts
Hughes - 10 pts
McPhilbin - 9 pts
Greer - 8 pts
TOTAL = 181 points

I actually agree that Rudenko and Kassi are as good as any of Parker's wins, but look beyond that and Parker has clearly the greater depth in his resume to date.

Oh thanks for this. I checked it out how the ratings is done and it's quite fair.

I must say with that that Minto and Meehan were clearly going downhill, Dillian Whyte for example KOed all of the opponends both Parker and Whyte had in way less time. I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte would win against Parker actually.

asdfjkl wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: Isn't that a kind of odd? If I fight myself totally up for the first 6 rounds and managed to win 4 and then give a headbut instead of waiting for my opponend to KO me in the following few rounds I'm winning the fight because I won most of the rounds?

Utter garbage.

It wasn't even the only clash of heads, it wasn't really anyone's fault it was just their styles combined and their dimensions made them pretty prone to it, and on one he got a bad cut.

I won't say he did it on purpose, but imagine if, then that would be a very easy style.

If it was the other way around you could win, or atleast not lose, fights your losing with headbuts, the main reasn he even had trouble later on was he couldn't see well.

asdfjkl wrote:l must say with that that Minto and Meehan were clearly going downhill, Dillian Whyte for example KOed all of the opponends both Parker and Whyte had in way less time. I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte would win against Parker actually.

HAHA I like how you write it like it's the first time you've ever posted a comment like this.

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

BitPlayer wrote: Utter garbage.

It wasn't even the only clash of heads, it wasn't really anyone's fault it was just their styles combined and their dimensions made them pretty prone to it, and on one he got a bad cut.

I won't say he did it on purpose, but imagine if, then that would be a very easy style.

If it was the other way around you could win, or atleast not lose, fights your losing with headbuts, the main reasn he even had trouble later on was he couldn't see well.

I understand, but Povetkin also had a bit of trouble when his face was cut open against Wach, Klitschko vs Lewis was the same story, they both struggled to fight because they were bleeding, not because they were dizzy or tired or anything like that.
Not that they were headbuts, but abusing a headbut seems very easy this way, just win the first few rounds and make a headbut.

asdfjkl wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:

asdfjkl wrote: I won't say he did it on purpose, but imagine if, then that would be a very easy style.

If it was the other way around you could win, or atleast not lose, fights your losing with headbuts, the main reasn he even had trouble later on was he couldn't see well.

I understand, but Povetkin also had a bit of trouble when his face was cut open against Wach, Klitschko vs Lewis was the same story, they both struggled to fight because they were bleeding, not because they were dizzy or tired or anything like that.
Not that they were headbuts, but abusing a headbut seems very easy this way, just win the first few rounds and make a headbut.

Which is why headbutts are illegal.

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Top 8 opponents to date according to BoxRec ratings:

JOSEPH PARKER
Minto - 94 pts
Meehan - 89 pts
Saglam - 64 pts
Costa Jnr - 59 pts
Bergman - 55 pts
Williams - 40 pts
Martz - 37 pts
Tupou - 32 pts
TOTAL = 470 points

HUGHIE FURY
Rudenko - 46 pts
Kassi - 38 pts
Arias - 30 pts
Guinn - 26 pts
Darch - 14 pts
Hughes - 10 pts
McPhilbin - 9 pts
Greer - 8 pts
TOTAL = 181 points

I actually agree that Rudenko and Kassi are as good as any of Parker's wins, but look beyond that and Parker has clearly the greater depth in his resume to date.

Oh thanks for this. I checked it out how the ratings is done and it's quite fair.

I must say with that that Minto and Meehan were clearly going downhill, Dillian Whyte for example KOed all of the opponends both Parker and Whyte had in way less time. I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte would win against Parker actually.

I agree - Minto and Meehan had inflated ratings at the time Joshua beat them. Still not sure why you keep harping on about how quickly Whyte has stopped mutual opponents - it really isn't a good measure of how good he or Parker is - just that he is more aggressive and, possibly, more powerful. Parker is much faster and in better shape than Whyte. Not sure who would win, but I'd give Parker the edge at this stage.

jezzamundo wrote:

asdfjkl wrote:

foxdog1923 wrote: Oh thanks for this. I checked it out how the ratings is done and it's quite fair.

I must say with that that Minto and Meehan were clearly going downhill, Dillian Whyte for example KOed all of the opponends both Parker and Whyte had in way less time. I wouldn't be surprised if Whyte would win against Parker actually.

I agree - Minto and Meehan had inflated ratings at the time Joshua beat them. Still not sure why you keep harping on about how quickly Whyte has stopped mutual opponents - it really isn't a good measure of how good he or Parker is - just that he is more aggressive and, possibly, more powerful. Parker is much faster and in better shape than Whyte. Not sure who would win, but I'd give Parker the edge at this stage.

He (asdfjkl) doesn't really understand boxing with all respect. More a fan than a boxing know how.

Hughie-Parker is currently class as a close fight.

At the moment I'd edge Parker to win due to him having more strength but wouldn't be surprised to see Hughie use his reach and win a points decision on the Backfoot.

Hughie certainly isn't a hype job as there's no hype surrounding him.

jezzamundo wrote:Top 8 opponents to date according to BoxRec ratings:

JOSEPH PARKER
Minto - 94 pts
Meehan - 89 pts
Saglam - 64 pts
Costa Jnr - 59 pts
Bergman - 55 pts
Williams - 40 pts
Martz - 37 pts
Tupou - 32 pts
TOTAL = 470 points

HUGHIE FURY
Rudenko - 46 pts
Kassi - 38 pts
Arias - 30 pts
Guinn - 26 pts
Darch - 14 pts
Hughes - 10 pts
McPhilbin - 9 pts
Greer - 8 pts
TOTAL = 181 points

I actually agree that Rudenko and Kassi are as good as any of Parker's wins, but look beyond that and Parker has clearly the greater depth in his resume to date.

That list is just simply ridiculous
Seriously horrible do you think Costa Jr/Minto/Saglam is a better fighter than Rudenko/Kassi???

Parkers best win in Minto, is a damn cruiserweight who just turns up for a paycheck.

If Rudenko beats Mollo today it's not even debatable that H.Fury has fought the more game opposition. Rudenko and Kassi both come to win currently without Takam cant say the same for Parkers resume.

KingJune wrote:That list is just simply ridiculous
Seriously horrible do you think Costa Jr/Minto/Saglam is a better fighter than Rudenko/Kassi???

Parkers best win in Minto, is a damn cruiserweight who just turns up for a paycheck.

If Rudenko beats Mollo today it's not even debatable that H.Fury has fought the more game opposition. Rudenko and Kassi both come to win currently without Takam cant say the same for Parkers resume.

Who's Mollo is he good? There's not much on YouTube on Kassi or Rudenko or even Mollo. The only clips I can find is of them getting knocked out, I mean who are these guys?

He don't believe in himself, looking real sweet right here. AJ would eat this kid up


https://youtu.be/03us6vzJgHc

KingJune wrote: Hughie Fury UD's Parker easy work all day ... Joshua KO's him in 1 round like fragile minded Cornish

Parker knocks Hughie out... He's a hard worker. He's very serious. Hughie is a sloth... Parker is nothing like Cornish. He goes 5 with AJ.

foxdog1923 wrote:

KingJune wrote:That list is just simply ridiculous
Seriously horrible do you think Costa Jr/Minto/Saglam is a better fighter than Rudenko/Kassi???

Parkers best win in Minto, is a damn cruiserweight who just turns up for a paycheck.

If Rudenko beats Mollo today it's not even debatable that H.Fury has fought the more game opposition. Rudenko and Kassi both come to win currently without Takam cant say the same for Parkers resume.

Who's Mollo is he good? There's not much on YouTube on Kassi or Rudenko or even Mollo. The only clips I can find is of them getting knocked out, I mean who are these guys?

Mollo is an American. Basically a capable small heavyweight who could probably have fought at cruiser but makes a living as a journeyman and is a good go to guy to build up and coming heavyweights. He's probably currently best known for putting Artur Spiltka down twice in two matches, which were fun fights that highlighted Artur's obvious flaws and his inability to correct them. They're probably on YouTube somewhere. He's one of those guys that your prospect should beat but will give them something of a challenge. A yardstick fighter.

KingJune wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Top 8 opponents to date according to BoxRec ratings:

JOSEPH PARKER
Minto - 94 pts
Meehan - 89 pts
Saglam - 64 pts
Costa Jnr - 59 pts
Bergman - 55 pts
Williams - 40 pts
Martz - 37 pts
Tupou - 32 pts
TOTAL = 470 points

HUGHIE FURY
Rudenko - 46 pts
Kassi - 38 pts
Arias - 30 pts
Guinn - 26 pts
Darch - 14 pts
Hughes - 10 pts
McPhilbin - 9 pts
Greer - 8 pts
TOTAL = 181 points

I actually agree that Rudenko and Kassi are as good as any of Parker's wins, but look beyond that and Parker has clearly the greater depth in his resume to date.

That list is just simply ridiculous
Seriously horrible do you think Costa Jr/Minto/Saglam is a better fighter than Rudenko/Kassi???

Parkers best win in Minto, is a damn cruiserweight who just turns up for a paycheck.

If Rudenko beats Mollo today it's not even debatable that H.Fury has fought the more game opposition. Rudenko and Kassi both come to win currently without Takam cant say the same for Parkers resume.

As I said, it's not my list, just the unbiased BoxRec ratings - I've already accepted that some of Parker's opponents had inflated records and I'll add that Kassi is definitely underrated. I think its' closer than the points suggest but Parker does have the better resume to date. Let's wait until he fights Takam, then we'll have a good idea of how good he really is.