Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
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funso banjo baby
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
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Boxerbeetle
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legendfunso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Like the GREEN MACHINE!Boxerbeetle wrote:His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legendfunso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
His ability to take a shot did diminish (even further) toward the end. He was clearly shook by a couple jabs on Friday. Do you think that's down to age, or do brutal KOs, and Enzos had some horrible ones, take a little bit more from you each time?
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funso banjo baby
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Boxerbeetle wrote:His defining fight was RJJ. When you beat a legend, you become a legendfunso banjo baby wrote:tons of excitement
he only had a bauble title though
I guess his defining fight was Haye
that rationale only works for the sky sport ppv generation. its more WWE than boxing.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
I always liked Enzo. He was in some cracking fights and won a fair few of them. Best of luck to him. I understand why the first poster said - where did it all go wrong - but I don't agree with it. I think he had a good career
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
One bad knockout can make you more susceptible to another, as I understand it.Wales wrote:His ability to take a shot did diminish (even further) toward the end. He was clearly shook by a couple jabs on Friday. Do you think that's down to age, or do brutal KOs, and Enzos had some horrible ones, take a little bit more from you each time?
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handsofstone
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 countStuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.handsofstone wrote:I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 countStuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Yeah true.jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.handsofstone wrote:I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 countStuarty30 wrote:He has had a smashing career. Not got a chin but to be fair he always seems to get caught with highlight reel punches! Smashing guy and was a cracking fighter. I thought his fight against Braithwaite was a real class showing. I'm glad he's now decided to pack it in.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.Stuarty30 wrote:Yeah true.jamesmcdonnell wrote:He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.handsofstone wrote: I agree he does tend to get caught with sledgehammering punches,its not as if he was getting KO'd by shots like the right hand that Thompson done Price with in their 1st fight,they look shots that would KO a horse and despite being KO'd many times he still doesnt know how to react when getting wobbled,always tries to trade instead of tying up or back peddling and always jumps back up instead of taking a mandatory 8 count
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At least Enzo is a decent guy. Khan is a prize wank spannerjamesmcdonnell wrote:Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.Stuarty30 wrote:Yeah true.jamesmcdonnell wrote:
He's always carried his head very high which is why he gets caught with such huge shots.
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.Stuarty30 wrote:At least Enzo is a decent guy. Khan is a prize wank spannerjamesmcdonnell wrote:Same with Khan, its the 'Kid carrying his toffee apple back from the fairground" defence.Stuarty30 wrote:
Yeah true.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
From what I hear, he's a very nice chap.jamesmcdonnell wrote:To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.
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mickey1975
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
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jamesmcdonnell
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
That's what I'm trying to say, his public persona is kind of annoying, however, that doesn't mean away from the cameras that he isn't a good bloke.keithmoonhangover wrote:From what I hear, he's a very nice chap.jamesmcdonnell wrote:To be fair, I've no idea what Khan is like in real life, but certainly he comes across as a bit of a tool.
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handsofstone
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Charities are usually very inefficient - though only having 10% left after fundraising activities is particularly bad.bripez wrote:Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
Even a monster like Oxfam manages 25%, or at least did last time I looked.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
keithmoonhangover disagrees.handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
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handsofstone
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Knobkeithmoonhangover wrote:keithmoonhangover disagrees.handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
keithmoonhangover agrees.handsofstone wrote:Knobkeithmoonhangover wrote:keithmoonhangover disagrees.handsofstone wrote:I like Khan but anyone who refers to themselves as a 3rd person is a bit of a knob,same goes for Hatton
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Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
keithmoonhangover wrote:keithmoonhangover agrees.handsofstone wrote:Knobkeithmoonhangover wrote:
keithmoonhangover disagrees.
Re: Enzo Maccarinelli: Where it all went wrong..
Just double checked and my figures were way out - the charity had an income of £250k and costs of £180kjamesmcdonnell wrote:Charities are usually very inefficient - though only having 10% left after fundraising activities is particularly bad.bripez wrote:Apart from being a great way to generate free publicity (and therefore money) as well as reducing tax liabilities these charities are not all what they seem.mickey1975 wrote:Khan does more for charity, here and in Pakistan, than any boxer.
I was reading last week about the Mo Farah foundation which had been wound up before it had actually distributed any money to any charitable causes - I forget the exact figures but it was something like the charity raised £1m but they spent over £900k on "fundraising" costs - no doubt paying friends and family members for their work.
I am not saying that Khan does the same, however these things aren't as simple as "he does a lot for charity".
Even a monster like Oxfam manages 25%, or at least did last time I looked.