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Oiky wrote:canelo is not being treated unfairly at all

The embarrassing position Canelo finds himself in is of his and Golden Boy's own making.

bnovelist wrote:Canelo has been doing his thing for years at 154lbs having great success. A money fight with the LEGEND Miguel Cotto comes around who just

happens to have a middleweight strap but their fight is actually 154lbs 155lbs now all of the sudden he's being forced to fight this monster GGG

who doesn't have any drawing whatsoever. Canelo is being treated unfair by the public he's given us great fights time and time again but its never

enough. After GGG then people will want to see him fight at 175lbs

Canelo and Golden Boy just had to take the low hanging fruit fight against an aged Cotto. They are getting everything that they deserve right now. If they would have kept on doing their thing at 155 then no one would be running after their cars asking about GGG. The fact is...they took that fight with Cotto knowing full well that Canelo was the mandatory defense to the winner. For them not to know what was coming would be complete and utter stupidity. Maybe they thought that fans would stick by him while he chickened out but they guessed wrong.

Now Canelo will be forever gutless for this move. It's too bad because his star was soaring. Now he's just another pussy boxer.

jezzamundo wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:Canelo is a natural middleweight who drains to make 154-155lb and on fight night weighs as much or more than GGG.

... and I strongly doubt that he is using legal means for cutting weight.

It's easier to cut weight when you're young - I don't have any reason to suspect Canelo is doing anything illegal.

You can reasonably suspect any pro athlete using PED's, but you're spot on about weight cutting. In 4 or 5 more years he'll be a Super Middleweight.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:
... and I strongly doubt that he is using legal means for cutting weight.

It's easier to cut weight when you're young - I don't have any reason to suspect Canelo is doing anything illegal.

You can reasonably suspect any pro athlete using PED's, but you're spot on about weight cutting. In 4 or 5 more years he'll be a Super Middleweight.

IMO Canelo is a supper middleweight haha. Other than his weight and choice of opponents have you seen the neck on him. He's so compact, very staunch fellow. In terms of physics, having that body/neck allow him to really absorb a lot of punches without great effect on him. Imagine going into a fight with confidence that, if u don't gas yourself and keep controlled your chance of being seriously hurt is slim. When he fought cotto it was like cotto was punching against an unmovable force. I've noticed lately (I haven't researched all his opponents) but he has success against smaller opponents, not just weight wise but height wise. I think if he moved up to super he would have trouble against the taller boxers/boxer punches. Even light mid the charlos are big boys height and physique wise and they would again cause him problems. Ggg on the other hand is just better and height and weight don't factor as much.

I feel his "era" is coming to an end, much like a Ronda Rousey. I appreciate he has 40 plus fights, that he is (let's be honest) not a coward but where to from here. He doesn't want to challenge himself, he's got an ego, middleweight division he will never reign while Ggg is around and he's to much of a staunch plodder for super middleweight. I hope it's over for him. He didn't bring any excitement to boxing for me. Watching an unmovable force (at that weight) with a thick neck, compact body, fire off big heavy shots one at a time after he's been lightly tagged by smaller opponents. I don't fancy that.

lazboy wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

jezzamundo wrote:
It's easier to cut weight when you're young - I don't have any reason to suspect Canelo is doing anything illegal.

You can reasonably suspect any pro athlete using PED's, but you're spot on about weight cutting. In 4 or 5 more years he'll be a Super Middleweight.

IMO Canelo is a supper middleweight haha. Other than his weight and choice of opponents have you seen the neck on him. He's so compact, very staunch fellow. In terms of physics, having that body/neck allow him to really absorb a lot of punches without great effect on him. Imagine going into a fight with confidence that, if u don't gas yourself and keep controlled your chance of being seriously hurt is slim. When he fought cotto it was like cotto was punching against an unmovable force. I've noticed lately (I haven't researched all his opponents) but he has success against smaller opponents, not just weight wise but height wise. I think if he moved up to super he would have trouble against the taller boxers/boxer punches. Even light mid the charlos are big boys height and physique wise and they would again cause him problems. Ggg on the other hand is just better and height and weight don't factor as much.

I feel his "era" is coming to an end, much like a Ronda Rousey. I appreciate he has 40 plus fights, that he is (let's be honest) not a coward but where to from here. He doesn't want to challenge himself, he's got an ego, middleweight division he will never reign while Ggg is around and he's to much of a staunch plodder for super middleweight. I hope it's over for him. He didn't bring any excitement to boxing for me. Watching an unmovable force (at that weight) with a thick neck, compact body, fire off big heavy shots one at a time after he's been lightly tagged by smaller opponents. I don't fancy that.

I think even if Golovkin moves up, Canelo will still have a hard time at MW against somebody with great stamina and work rate like Eubank Jr (unless Golovkin badly breaks Jr before moving up).

If Lemieux can still comfortably make 160, he will beat Canelo too.

boxing_rocks wrote:

lazboy wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
You can reasonably suspect any pro athlete using PED's, but you're spot on about weight cutting. In 4 or 5 more years he'll be a Super Middleweight.

IMO Canelo is a supper middleweight haha. Other than his weight and choice of opponents have you seen the neck on him. He's so compact, very staunch fellow. In terms of physics, having that body/neck allow him to really absorb a lot of punches without great effect on him. Imagine going into a fight with confidence that, if u don't gas yourself and keep controlled your chance of being seriously hurt is slim. When he fought cotto it was like cotto was punching against an unmovable force. I've noticed lately (I haven't researched all his opponents) but he has success against smaller opponents, not just weight wise but height wise. I think if he moved up to super he would have trouble against the taller boxers/boxer punches. Even light mid the charlos are big boys height and physique wise and they would again cause him problems. Ggg on the other hand is just better and height and weight don't factor as much.

I feel his "era" is coming to an end, much like a Ronda Rousey. I appreciate he has 40 plus fights, that he is (let's be honest) not a coward but where to from here. He doesn't want to challenge himself, he's got an ego, middleweight division he will never reign while Ggg is around and he's to much of a staunch plodder for super middleweight. I hope it's over for him. He didn't bring any excitement to boxing for me. Watching an unmovable force (at that weight) with a thick neck, compact body, fire off big heavy shots one at a time after he's been lightly tagged by smaller opponents. I don't fancy that.

I think even if Golovkin moves up, Canelo will still have a hard time at MW against somebody with great stamina and work rate like Eubank Jr (unless Golovkin badly breaks Jr before moving up).

If Lemieux can still comfortably make 160, he will beat Canelo too.

Yea mate eubank if a tough fight for anyone...including ggg but I give ggg the edge. Lemieux vs canelo I don't want to see personally because they are both golden boy but I'd like to see Lemieux bash him haha.

Like a Boss wrote:

Oiky wrote:canelo is not being treated unfairly at all

The embarrassing position Canelo finds himself in is of his and Golden Boy's own making.

exactly. made rods for their own backs

Canelo has beaten a slew of outstanding fighters. Not just so-called ranked fighters but REAL fighters. And all he gets is derision from a bunch of yokels.

Meanwhile Gigi bravely takes on every stumblebum available in the middleweight division and people here seem to mindlessly fawn over him like he's some unbeatable combination of Robinson, Hagler, Monzon and Greb.

Canelo has whacked out the super middleweight division, which is loaded with talent.

Yet no respect. Only huge paydays and near-record PPV numbers.

Gigi, however, fights the flotsam and jetsam of 160 pounders and for some insane reason, he's royalty.

Maybe he's royalty in the mind of those 150,000 souls who paid to watch him last year on PPV, but he looks like just another guy sitting on top of a weak, weak division.

Right now, Canelo is a 154 pounder, not a middleweight. He doesn't have to apologize.

He's dominated that division like few others in recent years.

When the time comes, and if Canelo's interested (and Mr. 150,000 accepts the 10% share he so richly deserves) then I'm certain he'll move up to that middleweight division and demonstrate that Gigi is a monster only in the mind of those who don't know better.

SenorPipino wrote:Canelo has beaten a slew of outstanding fighters. Not just so-called ranked fighters but REAL fighters. And all he gets is derision from a bunch of yokels.

Meanwhile Gigi bravely takes on every stumblebum available in the middleweight division and people here seem to mindlessly fawn over him like he's some unbeatable combination of Robinson, Hagler, Monzon and Greb.

Canelo has whacked out the super middleweight division, which is loaded with talent.

Yet no respect. Only huge paydays and near-record PPV numbers.

Gigi, however, fights the flotsam and jetsam of 160 pounders and for some insane reason, he's royalty.

Maybe he's royalty in the mind of those 150,000 souls who paid to watch him last year on PPV, but he looks like just another guy sitting on top of a weak, weak division.

Right now, Canelo is a 154 pounder, not a middleweight. He doesn't have to apologize.

He's dominated that division like few others in recent years.

When the time comes, and if Canelo's interested (and Mr. 150,000 accepts the 10% share he so richly deserves) then I'm certain he'll move up to that middleweight division and demonstrate that Gigi is a monster only in the mind of those who don't know better.

You're either cracking a great joke or you needed to type all that bullshit to convince yourself.

SenorPipino wrote:Canelo has beaten a slew of outstanding fighters. Not just so-called ranked fighters but REAL fighters. And all he gets is derision from a bunch of yokels.

Meanwhile Gigi bravely takes on every stumblebum available in the middleweight division and people here seem to mindlessly fawn over him like he's some unbeatable combination of Robinson, Hagler, Monzon and Greb.

Canelo has whacked out the super middleweight [??] division, which is loaded with talent.

Yet no respect. Only huge paydays and near-record PPV numbers.

Gigi, however, fights the flotsam and jetsam of 160 pounders and for some insane reason, he's royalty.

Maybe he's royalty in the mind of those 150,000 souls who paid to watch him last year on PPV, but he looks like just another guy sitting on top of a weak, weak division.

Right now, Canelo is a 154 pounder, not a middleweight. He doesn't have to apologize.

He's dominated that division like few others in recent years.

When the time comes, and if Canelo's interested (and Mr. 150,000 accepts the 10% share he so richly deserves) then I'm certain he'll move up to that middleweight division and demonstrate that Gigi is a monster only in the mind of those who don't know better.

After, you may need to be reminded, he relinquished his middleweight belt to avoid defending against Golovkin.

Who did Canelo dominate? Definitely not Trout or Lara. He has carefully avoided big rangy opponents like Andrade or Charlos. His latest opponents were either much smaller than him or weakened by weight drain.

Oiky wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

Oiky wrote:canelo is not being treated unfairly at all

The embarrassing position Canelo finds himself in is of his and Golden Boy's own making.

exactly. made rods for their own backs

Correct

More from responses to Canelo's tweets:

Canelo asked

Who has some official #TEAMCANELO gear?? Post your pictures and tag me so I can see!

and received some responses:

CANELO as Hurt his Reputation with all the big talk about GGG, then when it was time to get in the Ring with GGG he vacates the Title. Jimmy the Hat.

Even if he doesn't fight GGG at 160 there are still a lot better fighters at 154 than Amir Khan and Liam Smith.

shanemcmurdo wrote:Even if he doesn't fight GGG at 160 there are still a lot better fighters at 154 than Amir Khan and Liam Smith.

Yeah, but they can punch!

This boxing___rocks character sounds like the usual pathetic hater, so his anti-Canelo diatribes can't be taken seriously.

I must admit, that he has a pretty impressive collection of Canelo photos and memorabilia.

It appears that he might honestly have a wee bit of a boy-crush on the Mexican lad.

Could it be that his ongoing rants against Canelo are just a means to hide those embarrassing inner feelings?

boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo asked

Would buy that shirt and wear it everywhere

Like a Boss wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo asked

Would buy that shirt and wear it everywhere

Well you shouldn't wear it in the barrios of Tijuana, or any other part of Mexico for that matter. Especially in the baddest parts of town.

Mexicans take their heroes very seriously, and you're likely to get your huevos quickly separated from the rest of your anatomy. And then forced to swallow them.

However if you and boxing__rocks are feeling very, very lucky and are sufficiently inebriated, then please, be my guest.

SenorPipino wrote:

Like a Boss wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:Canelo asked

Would buy that shirt and wear it everywhere

Well you shouldn't wear it in the barrios of Tijuana, or any other part of Mexico for that matter. Especially in the baddest parts of town.

Mexicans take their heroes very seriously, and you're likely to get your huevos quickly separated from the rest of your anatomy. And then forced to swallow them.

However if you and boxing__rocks are feeling very, very lucky and are sufficiently inebriated, then please, be my guest.

Unlikely to be anywhere near Mexico any time soon. But thanks for thinking of me

Who said that Pollo Canelo is still a Mexican hero ?

My wife is a casual Mexican fight fan similar to 99% of all Mexican fight fans and she thinks Canelo is a bitch after I explained the situation to her.

Canelo let a lot of ppl down.

"I can put the gloves back on, we can fight right now" just cringe worthy stuff. I felt embarrassed for him when he said that cornball BS

I like watching Canelo fight because I like his fighting style but I'm not supporting a fighter who gets PUNKED OUT like that. I'll just watch his fights on youtube the next morning.

willing to fight little 147 Khan to 155 but not willing to show the same courage makes you question his team's intentions. Is this just a money grab or are you a pride fighter? It's just sad how Canelo vacated like that.

Now going after Smith the weakest title holder in the division come on. I hope 154 is too much for Canelo and smith puts it on him.

Divas like Canelo make me really appreciate the Heavyweight Division, No heavyweight would ever whine and pout over a few pounds.

I'm way more interested in the heavyweight scene than Divas like Canelo. So what happens if Canelo makes 154 and beats smith whats next?
I seriously doubt he fights Andrade and charlos and even if he does we all know it'll be close fights with Canelo getting the benefit of the doubt from the judges. BORING NOT Interested

I prefered Canelo moving to 160 and fighting fighters like Lemiuex that would have be an Action Fight I would have paid for that fight. Idk why people were complaining about that possibility now Canelo's career is going in a way worse direction.

Canelo is being treated fairly because he is being a hoe. I hope no one buys the Smith fight we can't support BS fights like this