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Who voted for a Brook win?

Fair play to Kell for taking the fight but surely there was someone more suitable for GGG. Its like the Khan-Alvarez thing all over again.

baron_otto wrote:Fair play to Kell for taking the fight but surely there was someone more suitable for GGG. Its like the Khan-Alvarez thing all over again.

I reckon that the promoter is the reason behind all this. Golovkin (by Golovkin I mean his team) is needing to sign a fight ASAP, he has wasted time trying to negotiate a big dollar fight in the UK with Eubank Jr. and, as he has been stuffed around yet again, he is offered a big dollar fight in the UK in nine weeks time.......against Ebank Jr's stable mate, Brook. That seems quite apparent to me, if I was Golovkin I know what I would do, turn that fight down, probably not able to get another fight this year, and all that money and the chance to build a bigger fan base in the UK just to appease the likes of you and me.

I wonder if Kells stabbing incident was worse than we thought. ie he can't train/move like he used to, hence the piss poor opposition since. Now they realise they can't hide from the best WW anymore, so best to take a big money fight where no one expects you to win but you get kudos just for taking it.

This stinks of topping up the retirement fund to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired shortly after this mauling.

For the record, I like Brook and I would hate to see him go out like that but something about all this doesn't sit right with me.

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder if Kells stabbing incident was worse than we thought. ie he can't train/move like he used to, hence the piss poor opposition since. Now they realise they can't hide from the best WW anymore, so best to take a big money fight where no one expects you to win but you get kudos just for taking it.

This stinks of topping up the retirement fund to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired shortly after this mauling.

For the record, I like Brook and I would hate to see him go out like that but something about all this doesn't sit right with me.

Blimey, Brook can't win - gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters, then signs to face the most feared middleweight out there and still gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters

Boxerbeetle wrote:

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder if Kells stabbing incident was worse than we thought. ie he can't train/move like he used to, hence the piss poor opposition since. Now they realise they can't hide from the best WW anymore, so best to take a big money fight where no one expects you to win but you get kudos just for taking it.

This stinks of topping up the retirement fund to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired shortly after this mauling.

For the record, I like Brook and I would hate to see him go out like that but something about all this doesn't sit right with me.

Blimey, Brook can't win - gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters, then signs to face the most feared middleweight out there and still gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters

You've missed my point. I'm suggesting that brooks injury COULD be the reason the big fights haven't happen at WW, and the injury COULD be the reason he's taking the money in a seemingly unwinable matchup.

GGG to win via KO around the 6th round.

I see Brook settling down to light-middle after this.

I can see GGG vs Brook going the same way that Brook vs Frankie Gavin went - the bigger stronger man bosses it and overwhelms the smaller guy. But credit to kell for taking it and I hope he can pull it off. Strange how Khan vs brook could never get made yet in the space of six months the pair of them have moved up to middleweight for title challenges in that division.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder if Kells stabbing incident was worse than we thought. ie he can't train/move like he used to, hence the piss poor opposition since. Now they realise they can't hide from the best WW anymore, so best to take a big money fight where no one expects you to win but you get kudos just for taking it.

This stinks of topping up the retirement fund to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired shortly after this mauling.

For the record, I like Brook and I would hate to see him go out like that but something about all this doesn't sit right with me.

Blimey, Brook can't win - gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters, then signs to face the most feared middleweight out there and still gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters

Come on, there's an odd angle to this. The fight simply makes no sense?

It certainly came out off the blue .. But like others i can't see the point except for it being a retirement fund fight

Golovkin v Brook? What? Have I just woken up in some kind of parallel universe?

Like other posters, I feel there's some point I am clearly missing about this fight. Could it be that Brook can no longer make 147 and this is a no-lose way of moving up - if he wins he's got some titles, and if he loses he builds up at 154 or 160 as he would have done anyway without Golovkin? But all that aside, I'm looking forward to this.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

smoothmoves wrote:I wonder if Kells stabbing incident was worse than we thought. ie he can't train/move like he used to, hence the piss poor opposition since. Now they realise they can't hide from the best WW anymore, so best to take a big money fight where no one expects you to win but you get kudos just for taking it.

This stinks of topping up the retirement fund to me. I wouldn't be surprised if he retired shortly after this mauling.

For the record, I like Brook and I would hate to see him go out like that but something about all this doesn't sit right with me.

Blimey, Brook can't win - gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters, then signs to face the most feared middleweight out there and still gets accused of avoiding the top welterweight fighters

Come on, there's an odd angle to this. The fight simply makes no sense?

Maybe....or maybe Hearn hasn't been lying when he said him and Brook have been desperate to make big fights with the other top welters and they haven't been able to get anyone interested. I don't know, and I don't much care tbh. Brook is stepping up against Golovkin and it's a fight I want to see, that's all I'm interested in.

Big payday for Brook and even if he gets ko'd in the 1st he can come again in fights at light middle with Liam Smith etc

Brook gets blitzed when GGG decides to finish it. Don't see the point in this fight at all unless Hearn has had enough of Brook and wants to cash his chips in.

Didn't agree with Khan going up to face Canelo, don't agree with Brook going up for this. There are plenty of fights at welter for them both and plenty of money to be made. Stupid decisions being made by people

As mad as it seems, Kell is still probably the best that GGG has ever faced, the bookies odds reflect this. I think GGG wins too, but I think Kell would beat Eubank with ease.

wesshaw1985 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzPkDdyjzo

enjoyed that, good insight into how they put the whole Ppv package together, sounds like Eubank senior has f'd up big time here.

Nightmare Roy wrote:As mad as it seems, Kell is still probably the best that GGG has ever faced, the bookies odds reflect this. I think GGG wins too, but I think Kell would beat Eubank with ease.

probably the best welter he ever faced, kells got no chance here and would also lose to eubank, dont know why people think its dead easy to jump up a couple of divisions and still be the same fighter, as a welter he only just sneaked past carson jones and porter but jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on GGG should be do-able ?

Nightmare Roy wrote:As mad as it seems, Kell is still probably the best that GGG has ever faced, the bookies odds reflect this. I think GGG wins too, but I think Kell would beat Eubank with ease.

I have to disagree. He may be the most talented (i'm not necessarily saying he is) he's faced but the weight is a serious handicap to that. Jumping up 2 weight divisions is as bad as all these stupid catchweight fights

Kell Brook would have been beaten by several fighters GGG has faced; how can he be the best he's faced? Murray and Macklin would do a number on the much smaller Brook, how can anyone think Brook would be in with a chance against those guys? They'd walk through him.

littlepug wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:As mad as it seems, Kell is still probably the best that GGG has ever faced, the bookies odds reflect this. I think GGG wins too, but I think Kell would beat Eubank with ease.

probably the best welter he ever faced, kells got no chance here and would also lose to eubank, dont know why people think its dead easy to jump up a couple of divisions and still be the same fighter, as a welter he only just sneaked past carson jones and porter but jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on GGG should be do-able ?

All this talk about Kell being a big welter, and how he struggles to make weight, and how he'll be better at 160, is the same balls we were given before Khan fought Canelo - if that were true, Brook would be fighting at 160 already, and as we know, he isn't.

Brook will get torn to pieces as soon as GGG lands a few flush shots, and everyone will wake up from their dream. It's a daft fight.

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jamesmcdonnell wrote:

littlepug wrote:

Nightmare Roy wrote:As mad as it seems, Kell is still probably the best that GGG has ever faced, the bookies odds reflect this. I think GGG wins too, but I think Kell would beat Eubank with ease.

probably the best welter he ever faced, kells got no chance here and would also lose to eubank, dont know why people think its dead easy to jump up a couple of divisions and still be the same fighter, as a welter he only just sneaked past carson jones and porter but jumping up 2 weight divisions to take on GGG should be do-able ?

All this talk about Kell being a big welter, and how he struggles to make weight, and how he'll be better at 160, is the same balls we were given before Khan fought Canelo - if that were true, Brook would be fighting at 160 already, and as we know, he isn't.

Brook will get torn to pieces as soon as GGG lands a few flush shots, and everyone will wake up from their dream. It's a daft fight.

Apparently GGG is a small middle weight as well?

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