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Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 12:59
by samwbr
Is Hennessy going to lose his shirt on the promotion?

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 13:04
by MattCoke
Noxy wrote:Can people not give Fury a break, he got injured. It does happen. When this fight happens (when I said) it will make a mint. That's how heavyweight title fights roll.
"He got injured" ye right and it was just a coincidence that the failed drugs test also came about at the same time. There was no injury he was jumping around pissed at the Euros a few days later.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 13:10
by samwbr
MattCoke wrote:
Noxy wrote:Can people not give Fury a break, he got injured. It does happen. When this fight happens (when I said) it will make a mint. That's how heavyweight title fights roll.
"He got injured" ye right and it was just a coincidence that the failed drugs test also came about at the same time. There was no injury he was jumping around pissed at the Euros a few days later.
The photo of his ankle looked quite bad.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 14:48
by jamesmcdonnell
lillywhite14 wrote:Tyson will have enough dough to retire. He doesn't strike me as overly extravagant and his family have a few quid, well his uncle Peter does.

It would be a shame if he has lost the desire so 'young' but travellers tend to age faster than most. Worth remembering that.
Was reading some statistics on travelling communities and life expectancy, and health pretty shocking, Never realised there was such a big disparity.If anyone wonders this just came about as I was doing some research as I wasn't precisely sure what Traveller meant as opposed to Roma, or Gipsy.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 14:49
by gilgamesh
Hasn't he already? It's actually worse in his case because he's doing it with a guy he's already got a win over. He's hesitant to fight a guy he's already gotten a decisive decision over ffs

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2016, 16:10
by coneye
I think when you start to sift through it all injuries , spotted out getting smashed ,, this that the other ,, It seems like theres a reason and i would suspect its all to do with the doping allegations , they have known for a while and are waiting for the end result ,, Mind you i only suspect , i could be wrong

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 07:53
by banjo
Jim Braddock didn't fight for 2 years after he dethroned Max Baer.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 08:13
by Mimmy
I dont think the fight will come off. Im in 2 minds wether Fury will fight again. Im not really sure about the guy as ive never figured him out. Even if the fight does come off I can see fury having no interest and getting beat. I just dont know if Fury is really interested in the fight game.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 19 Aug 2016, 08:58
by jamesmcdonnell
samwbr wrote:
MattCoke wrote:
Noxy wrote:Can people not give Fury a break, he got injured. It does happen. When this fight happens (when I said) it will make a mint. That's how heavyweight title fights roll.
"He got injured" ye right and it was just a coincidence that the failed drugs test also came about at the same time. There was no injury he was jumping around pissed at the Euros a few days later.
The photo of his ankle looked quite bad.
The photo's of him out on the lash in France didn't really look that great either - it's his life, but it doesn't really help with PR to be seen out dancing about on an ankle that's supposedly bad enough to postpone a fight.

I ended up pissed as a fart dancing around with a broken foot about a month ago, however, I'm not a professional athlete so nobody gave a toss.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 20 Aug 2016, 22:32
by Grilling Machine
I've no idea who the heavyweight champion is, and most of us have been playing our who-beats-who records for years.

We need a Super Six between Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Joshua, Haye and Ortiz. Parker and Povetkin on standby for withdrawals (swap Haye for Parker if you give precedence to his ranking over Haye's previous form). The potential to lose a fight and still end up as champ might tempt them, and we'd be all sorted by 2018.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2016, 01:31
by gilgamesh
Grilling Machine wrote:I've no idea who the heavyweight champion is, and most of us have been playing our who-beats-who records for years.

We need a Super Six between Fury, Klitschko, Wilder, Joshua, Haye and Ortiz. Parker and Povetkin on standby for withdrawals (swap Haye for Parker if you give precedence to his ranking over Haye's previous form). The potential to lose a fight and still end up as champ might tempt them, and we'd be all sorted by 2018.
After the Fury rematch...win or lose. I hope Wlad just retires.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2016, 13:43
by Sklar
Grilling Machine wrote:I've no idea who the heavyweight champion is....
Fury is the champ. I don't see how anyone can even suggest otherwise? Nobody denied Wlad was champ and Tyson beat him It's simple.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2016, 16:26
by tiny_acres
Sklar wrote:
Grilling Machine wrote:I've no idea who the heavyweight champion is....
Fury is the champ. I don't see how anyone can even suggest otherwise? Nobody denied Wlad was champ and Tyson beat him It's simple.
^^^^^^^
This.


For Petes sake the guy hasn't fought in 9 months.
Let's talk about this in 6 months

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2016, 17:33
by Grilling Machine
Sklar wrote:I don't see how anyone can even suggest otherwise?
I wasn't speaking literally. What I meant was that I've no idea who'd come out on top of a Super Six, and it just feels like Groundhog Day waiting to get any closer to finding out. Fury's obviously the official champion.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2016, 00:39
by Sklar
Grilling Machine wrote:
Sklar wrote:I don't see how anyone can even suggest otherwise?
I wasn't speaking literally. What I meant was that I've no idea who'd come out on top of a Super Six, and it just feels like Groundhog Day waiting to get any closer to finding out. Fury's obviously the official champion.
I see. I'd now back Fury against any heavyweight other than Ortiz. Wlad has shown his age. Joshua is one dimensional. Wilder is a heck of a puncher but a larger man with superior skills should be able to make him look rubbish. Sasha is not big enough. Who else is there?

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2016, 13:05
by TheLeprechaun
Klitschko held the title hostage and was a prick during negotiations with a lot of fighters.

Im delighted that fury is giving him the run around

Klitschko fought like a guy with no heart vs fury. Fury didnt do much better. It was probably the worst title fight in recent years.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 07:50
by SteveDow
I think motivation is clearly an issue for Fury and has been since he won the title. He must think he can't really top going to Wlad's back yard and beating him. That said, I agree with others in that I can't see him having made millions already if he doesn't go through with the re-match. It just seems a no brainer to me to get on and do the re-match regardless of how poorly he prepares given the millions it will make him.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 08:17
by mickey1975
It's the lack of appreciation that's upset him. Peter's past, which everyone knew about, was a news story within a week, the IBF stole his belt, people belittled his win by saying Wlad didn't do anything, there's a 6ft 9 reason for that, Wlad was happy enough punching everyone else about for years, AJ got so much credit for beating Charles Martin! I'd have cracked up. He's made a few quid, gets good money for speaking at dinners... I said years ago it's not about money for those guys, if he's doing upwards of 5 grand for eating dinners, probably has a million or so knocking about, he's happy. This is a guy who still wears slazenger socks. He couldn't care less.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 08:24
by MacTavish
mickey1975 wrote:It's the lack of appreciation that's upset him. Peter's past, which everyone knew about, was a news story within a week, the IBF stole his belt, people belittled his win by saying Wlad didn't do anything, there's a 6ft 9 reason for that, Wlad was happy enough punching everyone else about for years, AJ got so much credit for beating Charles Martin! I'd have cracked up. He's made a few quid, gets good money for speaking at dinners... I said years ago it's not about money for those guys, if he's doing upwards of 5 grand for eating dinners, probably has a million or so knocking about, he's happy. This is a guy who still wears slazenger socks. He couldn't care less.
My mate was on a Cruise ship that Fury was on about 3 months after winning the title and couldn't believe how badly dressed he was - looked like he's bought a job lot of gear from Sports Direct! :TU:

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 08:28
by Terry Dooley
I'm doing an article with Peter and Tyson next month and am still not sure what to ask, when the fight is or how Tyson will respond to my questions. The last time I met him face-to-face he said "I've been driving for an hour, this better not be sh*t." I've met loads of unpredictable characters, Fury is up there with Michael Gomez when it comes to the "Wait, what?!" factor.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 09:11
by stujones
gilgamesh wrote:Hasn't he already? It's actually worse in his case because he's doing it with a guy he's already got a win over. He's hesitant to fight a guy he's already gotten a decisive decision over ffs
Decisive? It was very close - Sky called it decisive AFTER he got the call.... Glenn McCory gave Fury the last round (a clear Klitchsko round) so he didn't have it a draw.

If that victory (with all the money and adulation he received) means that he hasn't got the fire in the belly, then I would say Klitchsko is the favourite. It wasn't as if it was so clear all Fury needs to do is turn up as he is that much better... Fury was in great shape throughout.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 10:29
by MacTavish
I just hope that it gets made and they get on with it - getting boring now. Would love to go to the rematch in Germany but have lost all confidence of dates etc plus the fact that they were wanting me to pay £100+ to sit in the upper tier of the MEN!

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 11:35
by bigjack
MacTavish wrote:I just hope that it gets made and they get on with it - getting boring now. Would love to go to the rematch in Germany but have lost all confidence of dates etc plus the fact that they were wanting me to pay £100+ to sit in the upper tier of the MEN!

Well i haven't heard one positive word to suggest the fight will happen anytime soon,if at all.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 11:40
by Tuan_Jim
stujones wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:Hasn't he already? It's actually worse in his case because he's doing it with a guy he's already got a win over. He's hesitant to fight a guy he's already gotten a decisive decision over ffs
Decisive? It was very close - Sky called it decisive AFTER he got the call.... Glenn McCory gave Fury the last round (a clear Klitchsko round) so he didn't have it a draw.

If that victory (with all the money and adulation he received) means that he hasn't got the fire in the belly, then I would say Klitchsko is the favourite. It wasn't as if it was so clear all Fury needs to do is turn up as he is that much better... Fury was in great shape throughout.
HBO had Fury winning something like 11-1, which is more accurate. I can't believe you think that fight was close! Fury won easily.

Re: Is Fury going to "do a Haye" ?

Posted: 31 Aug 2016, 11:56
by BitPlayer
Metal Fingers wrote:I'm doing an article with Peter and Tyson next month and am still not sure what to ask, when the fight is or how Tyson will respond to my questions. The last time I met him face-to-face he said "I've been driving for an hour, this better not be sh*t." I've met loads of unpredictable characters, Fury is up there with Michael Gomez when it comes to the "Wait, what?!" factor.
Ask him who he thinks would win, prime Joe Louis or prime Ali.