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Thomas hearns was 21.

10 weight classes, one organization and one champion per class with at least one mandatory title defense versus a number one contender every year.

Al Haymen continues his FREE boxing on TV

Can't believe no one said it .. Wilt Chamberlain vs Muhammad Ali

I think you got it right, like the UFC. if you don't think you can beat everyone and try to duck, gtfo.

The End wrote:Can't believe no one said it .. Wilt Chamberlain vs Muhammad Ali

This reminds me of people who say they're going to be billionaires but can't hold down a job. I say to them, why don't you make 50 G first?

Before saying Chamberlain could beat Ali, let's see how he would have done against George Chuvalo or even Stamford Harris.

I wish Salvador Sanchez had lived past 23 years of age.

I wish these fights would have happened:

Golovkin vs Sturm in 2007
Golovkin vs Taylor in 2008
Golovkin vs Pavlik in 2009
Golovkin vs Martinez in 2010
Golovkin vs Chavez Jr in 2011

I'd wish for a Boxing Network. Like they have for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL. Like a 24 hour Boxing Channel.

Or

Boxing Network could be coordinated with MMA, Judo, Karate, Sumo Wrestling. They could call it the Fight Network.

Go back to same day weigh ins. Loved the old Johnny Best shows at Liverpool Stadium - now that is going back a bit!

boxing_rocks wrote:I wish these fights would have happened:

Golovkin vs Sturm in 2007
Golovkin vs Taylor in 2008
Golovkin vs Pavlik in 2009
Golovkin vs Martinez in 2010
Golovkin vs Chavez Jr in 2011

Not sure if Golovkin would've been able to compete at that level just yet in 2007 and 2008, but starting at 2009 I figure he could win all those fights.

Rob3_142 wrote:Can I wish for more wishes?

...

I tried that once with a genie who came out of an old bottle I found washed up on the beach. She said, I'll grant you one wish. I said, OK, I wish for three more wishes. She said, sorry, that's forbidden and now you've wasted your wish and she disappeared.

As for boxing, so much needs changing, I hardly know where to begin. One thing I would do is modernize the weight classes and set them up on a logical basis with percentage increments from one to the other. And boxing is so corrupt. The judge system obviously isn't working. I'm not sure how to fix that. You might let the referee have one vote like he used to, but what would that fix? Refs are almost as bad as the judges. One guy said make the rules uniform all over and that is true. Besides uniform rules boxing needs an international supervising organization to oversee it and get rid of all these ridiculous alphabet things. Medical coverage for boxers is another thing that is badly needed.

gilgamesh wrote:

boxing_rocks wrote:I wish these fights would have happened:

Golovkin vs Sturm in 2007
Golovkin vs Taylor in 2008
Golovkin vs Pavlik in 2009
Golovkin vs Martinez in 2010
Golovkin vs Chavez Jr in 2011

Not sure if Golovkin would've been able to compete at that level just yet in 2007 and 2008, but starting at 2009 I figure he could win all those fights.

Unfortunately, we will never know. I could continue:
.....
Golovkin vs Froch in 2012
Golovkin vs Ward in 2013

x2x wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:Can I wish for more wishes?

...

I tried that once with a genie who came out of an old bottle I found washed up on the beach. She said, I'll grant you one wish. I said, OK, I wish for three more wishes. She said, sorry, that's forbidden and now you've wasted your wish and she disappeared.

As for boxing, so much needs changing, I hardly know where to begin. One thing I would do is modernize the weight classes and set them up on a logical basis with percentage increments from one to the other. And boxing is so corrupt. The judge system obviously isn't working. I'm not sure how to fix that. You might let the referee have one vote like he used to, but what would that fix? Refs are almost as bad as the judges. One guy said make the rules uniform all over and that is true. Besides uniform rules boxing needs an international supervising organization to oversee it and get rid of all these ridiculous alphabet things. Medical coverage for boxers is another thing that is badly needed.

Fixing the Judging and Refereeing was my second wish so i'm right there with you. The first thing that i'd do is institute instant replay in boxing to make sure the ref gets it right for a change. They can review the tape to determine knockdowns and find out if cuts were caused by a punch or butt. That's such an easy one that i can't understand why they just don't do it everywhere already.

As for judging for big fights, I'd increase to 5 judges and have them all off site viewing the fight in a room with no sound on. All 5 judges get the same angle of the fight and the action. They won't be affected by the crowd because there's no sound. They won't be affected by the announcers normally a few seats away from them at ringside. Lastly, i'd make each accountable for their scorecard and make them take interviews after the fight to explain what they saw and why. Why are the judges now in witness protection after fights? Why not make them accountable?

That boxing had a proper international structure, and was no longer so much the wild west. This would require such a huge shakeup, that I am not sure it will ever happen.

caldo2025 wrote:If I had one Boxing wish, I'd wish that Boxing was run exactly like the UFC in terms of matchmaking, title fights and one recognized champion in each weight class. Boxing would become one of the greatest sports in the world.

What would be your Boxing wish?

Only 1? Boxing needs 15!

The biggest problem in our sport is the talent level. It's true. So I wish each medalist in the Olympics or World Amateur Championships would receive a bonus to go professional.

How can this be done? Put in a luxury tax of PPV's where fighters make over 3 million, and build funds for the top amateurs to turn professional regardless of who promotes them.


Gold = 100k signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

Silver = 50K signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

Bronze = 25K signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

While this might not be a lot of money to a UK or USA citizen, it would be for many boxers. Enough I think to give it a go.

caldo2025 wrote:

x2x wrote:

Rob3_142 wrote:Can I wish for more wishes?

...

I tried that once with a genie who came out of an old bottle I found washed up on the beach. She said, I'll grant you one wish. I said, OK, I wish for three more wishes. She said, sorry, that's forbidden and now you've wasted your wish and she disappeared.

As for boxing, so much needs changing, I hardly know where to begin. One thing I would do is modernize the weight classes and set them up on a logical basis with percentage increments from one to the other. And boxing is so corrupt. The judge system obviously isn't working. I'm not sure how to fix that. You might let the referee have one vote like he used to, but what would that fix? Refs are almost as bad as the judges. One guy said make the rules uniform all over and that is true. Besides uniform rules boxing needs an international supervising organization to oversee it and get rid of all these ridiculous alphabet things. Medical coverage for boxers is another thing that is badly needed.

Fixing the Judging and Refereeing was my second wish so i'm right there with you. The first thing that i'd do is institute instant replay in boxing to make sure the ref gets it right for a change. They can review the tape to determine knockdowns and find out if cuts were caused by a punch or butt. That's such an easy one that i can't understand why they just don't do it everywhere already.

As for judging for big fights, I'd increase to 5 judges and have them all off site viewing the fight in a room with no sound on. All 5 judges get the same angle of the fight and the action. They won't be affected by the crowd because there's no sound. They won't be affected by the announcers normally a few seats away from them at ringside. Lastly, i'd make each accountable for their scorecard and make them take interviews after the fight to explain what they saw and why. Why are the judges now in witness protection after fights? Why not make them accountable?

Instant replay is a good idea but how would the ref get to watch it in the midst of a fight when he needs to make instant calls? I like your 5 off site judges idea too, and not putting them into ha ha witness protection afterwards. Who are those judges and referees anyway? How are they picked? Who do they know? Who do they work for? The more I try to think of ways to straighten out boxing the more hopeless it seems.

I don't follow mma but they've managed to keep it much more on the level so far haven't they? How have they done that, by a strong central authority?

pound per pound wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:If I had one Boxing wish, I'd wish that Boxing was run exactly like the UFC in terms of matchmaking, title fights and one recognized champion in each weight class. Boxing would become one of the greatest sports in the world.

What would be your Boxing wish?

Only 1? Boxing needs 15!

The biggest problem in our sport is the talent level. It's true. So I wish each medalist in the Olympics or World Amateur Championships would receive a bonus to go professional.

How can this be done? Put in a luxury tax of PPV's where fighters make over 3 million, and build funds for the top amateurs to turn professional regardless of who promotes them.


Gold = 100k signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

Silver = 50K signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

Bronze = 25K signing bonus. 50% up front, the rest to be paid over the course of fighters first 10 fights.

While this might not be a lot of money to a UK or USA citizen, it would be for many boxers. Enough I think to give it a go.

this already happens! you think medallists don't get signing bonus? Promoters are usually falling over themselves to sign Olympic medallists.

x2x wrote:

caldo2025 wrote:

x2x wrote:
I tried that once with a genie who came out of an old bottle I found washed up on the beach. She said, I'll grant you one wish. I said, OK, I wish for three more wishes. She said, sorry, that's forbidden and now you've wasted your wish and she disappeared.

As for boxing, so much needs changing, I hardly know where to begin. One thing I would do is modernize the weight classes and set them up on a logical basis with percentage increments from one to the other. And boxing is so corrupt. The judge system obviously isn't working. I'm not sure how to fix that. You might let the referee have one vote like he used to, but what would that fix? Refs are almost as bad as the judges. One guy said make the rules uniform all over and that is true. Besides uniform rules boxing needs an international supervising organization to oversee it and get rid of all these ridiculous alphabet things. Medical coverage for boxers is another thing that is badly needed.

Fixing the Judging and Refereeing was my second wish so i'm right there with you. The first thing that i'd do is institute instant replay in boxing to make sure the ref gets it right for a change. They can review the tape to determine knockdowns and find out if cuts were caused by a punch or butt. That's such an easy one that i can't understand why they just don't do it everywhere already.

As for judging for big fights, I'd increase to 5 judges and have them all off site viewing the fight in a room with no sound on. All 5 judges get the same angle of the fight and the action. They won't be affected by the crowd because there's no sound. They won't be affected by the announcers normally a few seats away from them at ringside. Lastly, i'd make each accountable for their scorecard and make them take interviews after the fight to explain what they saw and why. Why are the judges now in witness protection after fights? Why not make them accountable?

Instant replay is a good idea but how would the ref get to watch it in the midst of a fight when he needs to make instant calls? I like your 5 off site judges idea too, and not putting them into ha ha witness protection afterwards. Who are those judges and referees anyway? How are they picked? Who do they know? Who do they work for? The more I try to think of ways to straighten out boxing the more hopeless it seems.

I don't follow mma but they've managed to keep it much more on the level so far haven't they? How have they done that, by a strong central authority?

I'd appoint two referee's to each fight, one inside the ring and one outside. The ref outside has access to instant replay and he or she has the ability to overrule the ref inside the ring. But any reversals have to be determined within the minute between the rounds. If a decision to reverse isn't made by the time the bell sounds for the next round then the call stands. simple as that.

Completely agree with you. I think that these upgrades to boxing couldn't be made without first having a reliable central authority commission to oversee the sport. In the USA, Senator John McCain tried to pass a bill through congress to regulate the sport of Boxing back in 2012 but it failed.

I think that it's going to take something big like multiple deaths in the ring on live TV or for someone to uncover the corruption in Boxing that gains worldwide attention before we ever get any closer to a central authority overseeing the sport.

I think all hope is lost for boxing to be fair.

Unless promoters lose interest in promoting the sport, they are not going to cede power to any overruling central commission. The only way that happens if is the sports dies back to such a level that no new promoters come forward, this is possible, but then it would be very hard to revive interest in the sport.

The problem with boxing is as ever, it's basically owned by promoters, and run by petty organisations who serve their own interests, the networks make money showing it and help bankroll it with their money, and the casinos profit from staging events there.

It's just lots of sets of hands dipping into the pot.

caldo2025 wrote:...
I think that it's going to take something big like multiple deaths in the ring on live TV or for someone to uncover the corruption in Boxing that gains worldwide attention before we ever get any closer to a central authority overseeing the sport.

There would be calls for banning it then, and maybe it's just as well. Pro boxing has been corrupt from the beginning.

MachoTime wrote:I'd wish for a Boxing Network. Like they have for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL. Like a 24 hour Boxing Channel.

Or

Boxing Network could be coordinated with MMA, Judo, Karate, Sumo Wrestling. They could call it the Fight Network.

This. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Also,to see "Charlie Zelenoff" have another "Actual Pro Bout",against a legit boxer(Low B Grade) would be sufficient.
Watch the low b grade boxer beat the snot out of him and shut down his delusional ego-tripping once and for all !
I would be all.... And... "Big-Time" !!!

Maybe Zelenoff vs 88' Tyson

Mine would be fair and honest officials (referee and judges) for Kovalev-Ward.

that i am actually dreaming and
leonard did have a rematch with
hagler, which i am going to watch
(waking up) ... right now.