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Quix wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

JamieM wrote:No

No. Go lookin hits too hard and too often. He's hurt bigger men who are of a similar type of level to brook at middle ie belt holder. GGG has beaten a long list of good fighters. Brook has beat one very good opponent and a long list of stragglers

Out of interest, who has he fought that could be claimed to be a good fighter ? Not that i'm being critical of what you say, but who is a stand out opponent that GGG has fought to date ?

willardx wrote:Ive seen pretty much most of ggg's last 10 fight (or since BN picked him up). Man's an animal. Fair play to Kell for gettin involved and I will be on my feet roaring if he pulls it off, but my brain is saying the relentless barrage from ggg will take him down and out in the middle rounds. Hope im wrong tho.

Quix wrote:Hi,

I used to be a regular follower of boxing a few years back and still cast my eye over the sport to see what is hapenning. I come from Sheffield and so have an interest in the Brook Golovkin fight. Realistically, can Brook win this fight ? Or doesn't it matter about the quality of the opponent, as Kell is going up two weights for the fight.

From what i can tell, Golovkin hasn't fought anyone of real note, but these days fighters with no losses and a goof knock out ratio seem to be hyped somewhat to get bums on seats. I see all this " baddest man on the planet " stuff and how great a fighter he is, but has he been tested against a real quality opponent or is there none out there apart from Canelo ?

Even if Golovkin is hyped, does the weight difference make the fighter a non starter for kell, because regardless, Golovkin must be good. Alternatively, can Brook win if he fights the righy strategy and uses movement, speed and accuracy, given that's not been affected by the weight ? Obviously a punch out isn't going to be affective, but can you see a strategy that will work or will it be another Khan vs Canelo situation.

Also will going up two weights hinder Kell if he is too eventually come back down to 147lbs

Thanks

Flashing Blade wrote:The build up to Saturday reminds me of the build up to Nigel Benn to Gerald McClellan. Then, when the papers still bothered with boxing, all of them picked McClellan and were pretty much unanimous that it was going to be a brutal KO.

Kell has never been stopped and is an unknown quantity at Middleweight. The bookies' odds are probably a fair reflection of his chances- but he has a shot.

PredatorHayds wrote:I can't see Golovkin losing this.

In my opinion he's the best middleweight since Hagler. He's a defining win away from cementing that position (Canelo would be the one).

For upsets to happen of this magnitude the favourite usually prepares wrong mentally or physically e.g Tyson or SRR. Golovkin seems as strong mentally as he is physically.

The only person I see beating GGG at middleweight is Father Time and that's about 3-4 years away at the earliest.

If you haven't see him before enjoy Saturday. For fight fans he's as good as it gets.

Flashing Blade wrote:The build up to Saturday reminds me of the build up to Nigel Benn to Gerald McClellan. Then, when the papers still bothered with boxing, all of them picked McClellan and were pretty much unanimous that it was going to be a brutal KO.

Kell has never been stopped and is an unknown quantity at Middleweight. The bookies' odds are probably a fair reflection of his chances- but he has a shot.

SteveDow wrote:

Flashing Blade wrote:The build up to Saturday reminds me of the build up to Nigel Benn to Gerald McClellan. Then, when the papers still bothered with boxing, all of them picked McClellan and were pretty much unanimous that it was going to be a brutal KO.

Kell has never been stopped and is an unknown quantity at Middleweight. The bookies' odds are probably a fair reflection of his chances- but he has a shot.

Two huge differences between the two fights.

Firstly, McClellan was coming up in weight whilst Benn was established at the weight.

Secondly, Benn was a huge puncher which meant that he was able to get McClellan's respect after the torrid first round. Something Brook won't be able to do in my view.

Quix wrote:

freddydoesdallas wrote:

JamieM wrote:No

No. Go lookin hits too hard and too often. He's hurt bigger men who are of a similar type of level to brook at middle ie belt holder. GGG has beaten a long list of good fighters. Brook has beat one very good opponent and a long list of stragglers

Out of interest, who has he fought that could be claimed to be a good fighter ? Not that i'm being critical of what you say, but who is a stand out opponent that GGG has fought to date ?

MightyWarrior wrote:Of course he can, he could well catch GGG with some hard enough punches to open a bad cut for instance - that fight where GGG was cut and his eye was swollen shows he can mark up if the other guy lands enough, and with a roaring crowd behind him Kel could hit inspired form...its long shot, but it's there..

Loftgroov wrote:My head says Golovkin wins - of course - but I wouldn't write off Brook to the extent many are, simply because there are too many unknowns.

Brook MIGHT transpire to be a beast at 160lbs. Strong, full of energy, good movement, timing and hard counter-punching. Its entirely plausible he will have the dig to gain GGG's respect and then its game on.

GGG MIGHT not be as dominant against a fighter of Brook's calibre. Brook is a good level above e.g. Martin Murray, Daniel Geale and David Lemeiux in my opinion so let's see if its a level sufficient to make a good fight of it.

Brook just MIGHT be capable of a hell of a lot better than people have seen to date.


Golovkin should win, but stranger things have happened....

Loftgroov wrote:My head says Golovkin wins - of course - but I wouldn't write off Brook to the extent many are, simply because there are too many unknowns.

Brook MIGHT transpire to be a beast at 160lbs. Strong, full of energy, good movement, timing and hard counter-punching. Its entirely plausible he will have the dig to gain GGG's respect and then its game on.

GGG MIGHT not be as dominant against a fighter of Brook's calibre. Brook is a good level above e.g. Martin Murray, Daniel Geale and David Lemeiux in my opinion so let's see if its a level sufficient to make a good fight of it.

Brook just MIGHT be capable of a hell of a lot better than people have seen to date.


Golovkin should win, but stranger things have happened....

SteveDow wrote:

Flashing Blade wrote:The build up to Saturday reminds me of the build up to Nigel Benn to Gerald McClellan. Then, when the papers still bothered with boxing, all of them picked McClellan and were pretty much unanimous that it was going to be a brutal KO.

Kell has never been stopped and is an unknown quantity at Middleweight. The bookies' odds are probably a fair reflection of his chances- but he has a shot.

Two huge differences between the two fights.

Firstly, McClellan was coming up in weight whilst Benn was established at the weight.

Secondly, Benn was a huge puncher which meant that he was able to get McClellan's respect after the torrid first round. Something Brook won't be able to do in my view.

Loftgroov wrote:My head says Golovkin wins - of course - but I wouldn't write off Brook to the extent many are, simply because there are too many unknowns.

Brook MIGHT transpire to be a beast at 160lbs. Strong, full of energy, good movement, timing and hard counter-punching. Its entirely plausible he will have the dig to gain GGG's respect and then its game on.

GGG MIGHT not be as dominant against a fighter of Brook's calibre. Brook is a good level above e.g. Martin Murray, Daniel Geale and David Lemeiux in my opinion so let's see if its a level sufficient to make a good fight of it.

Brook just MIGHT be capable of a hell of a lot better than people have seen to date.


Golovkin should win, but stranger things have happened....