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Amazing how few HWs throw to body

Dimintrenko would be one of the better sparring partners IMO, and I know Haye had him in camp for the aborted Fury bout. Obviously not a perfect match (who is?), but he's around the same size, can box a bit, has a full range of punches and throws more to the body than most HWs, and is one of the faster giants. He's a fragile fighter when pushed, but since it's sparring I'd expect that to be less of an issue.

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Riddick Blowe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, kovalev would beat him too. Great last fight for Hopkins.

Kovalev would beat Fury for sure, but Ward, no way. I don't see how Ward could possibly throw and land enough given the size differential and lol at the thought of him clinching Fury.

Ward is one of the few fighters who will only score where you let him. He jabs to the chest and shoulders more than any other fighter.

Ward would not let Fury set his feet. He would land 100 shots to the body and arms which will give him the fight over Fury's nothing.
You would be crazy to think Ward/Hunter would create a game plan that involved clinching an opponent you have possibly an 100% footspeed/footwork advantage.

They would train to run for 36 minutes ... like what Dirrell did to Stevens.
Someone even mentioned Hopkins, but that would simply be too sad.
The HW division would never recover.

Just keep ur fetish/fascination with big men to yourselves.
Real boxing fans understand skill.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, kovalev would beat him too. Great last fight for Hopkins.

Kovalev would beat Fury for sure, but Ward, no way. I don't see how Ward could possibly throw and land enough given the size differential and lol at the thought of him clinching Fury.

Ward is one of the few fighters who will only score where you let him. He jabs to the chest and shoulders more than any other fighter.

Ward would not let Fury set his feet. He would land 100 shots to the body and arms which will give him the fight over Fury's nothing.
You would be crazy to think Ward/Hunter would create a game plan that involved clinching an opponent you have possibly an 100% footspeed/footwork advantage.

They would train to run for 36 minutes ... like what Dirrell did to Stevens.
Someone even mentioned Hopkins, but that would simply be too sad.
The HW division would never recover.

Just keep ur fetish/fascination with big men to yourselves.
Real boxing fans understand skill.

I am one of the biggest advocates of the skills trump size argument, so you can forget that accusation. I'm not one of those nut jobs that claim wladimir would have beaten the top names of the 70s because he is 'bigger' . But in this case ward just doesn't have the style to beat fury. Kovalev would land on and hurt fury. Ward would have to deal with that physicality for 12 rounds and you act like he wouldn't get hit or physically bullied.

Riddick Blowe wrote:I am one of the biggest advocates of the skills trump size argument, so you can forget that accusation. I'm not one of those nut jobs that claim wladimir would have beaten the top names of the 70s because he is 'bigger' . But in this case ward just doesn't have the style to beat fury. Kovalev would land on and hurt fury. Ward would have to deal with that physicality for 12 rounds and you act like he wouldn't get hit or physically bullied.

Wlad and Fury are different.
Fury won't able to cause clinches. He's too slow and his footwork is not good enough.

Also, what pace do you think Fury can keep? He'd have to look like Maidana against Floyd.
Fury can't do that.

Simply put. If you asked Ward and Fury to circle to ring one way then immediately back the other way as fast as you can.
Ward's time and ability to change directions is too much quicker than Fury.
And we know Ward can probably fight like that for 15 rounds, especially if it's his complete focus during camp.

Fury basically moves like a fat guy. Can't beat a guy like Ward like that.

That's the big issue exactly how do you prepare for such a rare heavyweight? It is not easy and to be honest Klitschko should have never taken the fight. Fury has Wlad's number, the absolute worst style match up for him. Name another outside fighter Wladimir has fought. Wlad needs stationary or come forward fighters, hence the foam padding.

Work on cutting off the ring not following Fury in a circle and be willing to exchange. Break up with the foul midget get your mind right

I had the first fight 11-1 Fury. Klitschko is going to have to lay it on the line in the rematch, I think he gets KO'd. Hope he doesn't keep turning his back to Fury in the rematch, he was absolutely humiliated and beaten to a pulp

I hope Wlad saves his career pulls out and fights Anthony Joshua for the IBF. Stylistically the much more winnable fight

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:I am one of the biggest advocates of the skills trump size argument, so you can forget that accusation. I'm not one of those nut jobs that claim wladimir would have beaten the top names of the 70s because he is 'bigger' . But in this case ward just doesn't have the style to beat fury. Kovalev would land on and hurt fury. Ward would have to deal with that physicality for 12 rounds and you act like he wouldn't get hit or physically bullied.

Wlad and Fury are different.
Fury won't able to cause clinches. He's too slow and his footwork is not good enough.

Also, what pace do you think Fury can keep? He'd have to look like Maidana against Floyd.
Fury can't do that.

Simply put. If you asked Ward and Fury to circle to ring one way then immediately back the other way as fast as you can.
Ward's time and ability to change directions is too much quicker than Fury.
And we know Ward can probably fight like that for 15 rounds, especially if it's his complete focus during camp.

Fury basically moves like a fat guy. Can't beat a guy like Ward like that.

If Fury clinched Ward and leaned on him, it would break Ward's back. Ward seriously couldn't endure 2 rounds of having Fury's weight on him. This is one of those situations where if Ward could beat Fury, he would attempt to make the fight, because there is plenty of monetary and legacy rewards for winning such a fight.

Lackeos wrote:

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:I am one of the biggest advocates of the skills trump size argument, so you can forget that accusation. I'm not one of those nut jobs that claim wladimir would have beaten the top names of the 70s because he is 'bigger' . But in this case ward just doesn't have the style to beat fury. Kovalev would land on and hurt fury. Ward would have to deal with that physicality for 12 rounds and you act like he wouldn't get hit or physically bullied.

Wlad and Fury are different.
Fury won't able to cause clinches. He's too slow and his footwork is not good enough.

Also, what pace do you think Fury can keep? He'd have to look like Maidana against Floyd.
Fury can't do that.

Simply put. If you asked Ward and Fury to circle to ring one way then immediately back the other way as fast as you can.
Ward's time and ability to change directions is too much quicker than Fury.
And we know Ward can probably fight like that for 15 rounds, especially if it's his complete focus during camp.

Fury basically moves like a fat guy. Can't beat a guy like Ward like that.

If Fury clinched Ward and leaned on him, it would break Ward's back. Ward seriously couldn't endure 2 rounds of having Fury's weight on him. This is one of those situations where if Ward could beat Fury, he would attempt to make the fight, because there is plenty of monetary and legacy rewards for winning such a fight.

I keep asking, when are they going to come together?
In the center of the ring?
Ward would never throw a punch in the center of the ring that would lead to a clinch.
NEVER. Not once in 12 rounds would he make that mistake.

On the ropes? Maybe, but Ward would never be there.
As soon as he felt it, he would dash away. And Fury doesn't have to footspeed/footwork to stop it.

Can you imagine the ring size if they fought?
Shit would be a basketball court.

Lmao at this argument

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Agreed, kovalev would beat him too. Great last fight for Hopkins.

Kovalev would beat Fury for sure, but Ward, no way. I don't see how Ward could possibly throw and land enough given the size differential and lol at the thought of him clinching Fury.

Ward is one of the few fighters who will only score where you let him. He jabs to the chest and shoulders more than any other fighter.

Ward would not let Fury set his feet. He would land 100 shots to the body and arms which will give him the fight over Fury's nothing.
You would be crazy to think Ward/Hunter would create a game plan that involved clinching an opponent you have possibly an 100% footspeed/footwork advantage.

They would train to run for 36 minutes ... like what Dirrell did to Stevens.
Someone even mentioned Hopkins, but that would simply be too sad.
The HW division would never recover.

Just keep ur fetish/fascination with big men to yourselves.
Real boxing fans understand skill.

Is no one even going to mention fury is 9 inches taller and has a 14 inch reach advantage? Plus he's going to have a stupid weight disadvantage or have to put on a stupid ammount of weight, neither are a great place to be.

And that's not mentioning the sheer power of Fury compared to a LHW, he may not be a massive puncher for a heavyweight, but look what happened to Cunningham, a cruiserweigtht, even with Fury toying around and fighting like an idiot he still couldn't handle the power and received his only knockout in his well over a decade of pro boxing.

Skill can trump power but at the end of the day we have weight divisions for a reason, size makes a massive difference, and this is a stupid ammount of weight.

BitPlayer wrote:Is no one even going to mention fury is 9 inches taller and has a 14 inch reach advantage? Plus he's going to have a stupid weight disadvantage or have to put on a stupid ammount of weight, neither are a great place to be.

And that's not mentioning the sheer power of Fury compared to a LHW, he may not be a massive puncher for a heavyweight, but look what happened to Cunningham, a cruiserweigtht, even with Fury toying around and fighting like an idiot he still couldn't handle the power and received his only knockout in his well over a decade of pro boxing.

Skill can trump power but at the end of the day we have weight divisions for a reason, size makes a massive difference, and this is a stupid ammount of weight.

I saw Fury almost get laid out by a legal punch,
and then had to resort to rough-housing on the ropes to land a KO punch.

You also forget to mention that this wasn't even prime Cunningham, 1-3 in his last 4, and was still Fury's best opponent.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote:

BitPlayer wrote:Is no one even going to mention fury is 9 inches taller and has a 14 inch reach advantage? Plus he's going to have a stupid weight disadvantage or have to put on a stupid ammount of weight, neither are a great place to be.

And that's not mentioning the sheer power of Fury compared to a LHW, he may not be a massive puncher for a heavyweight, but look what happened to Cunningham, a cruiserweigtht, even with Fury toying around and fighting like an idiot he still couldn't handle the power and received his only knockout in his well over a decade of pro boxing.

Skill can trump power but at the end of the day we have weight divisions for a reason, size makes a massive difference, and this is a stupid ammount of weight.

I saw Fury almost get laid out by a legal punch,
and then had to resort to rough-housing on the ropes to land a KO punch.

You also forget to mention that this wasn't even prime Cunningham, 1-3 in his last 4, and was still Fury's best opponent.

Fury wasn't even hurt, he was clowning around off balance, and he was even in his prime, he was a kid without his trainer.

This is possibly the barmy thread I've ever seen. Some of the stuff written is comedy gold.

BAD INTENTIONS wrote: Ward is one of the few fighters who will only score where you let him. He jabs to the chest and shoulders more than any other fighter.

Ward would not let Fury set his feet. He would land 100 shots to the body and arms which will give him the fight over Fury's nothing.
You would be crazy to think Ward/Hunter would create a game plan that involved clinching an opponent you have possibly an 100% footspeed/footwork advantage.

They would train to run for 36 minutes ... like what Dirrell did to Stevens.
Someone even mentioned Hopkins, but that would simply be too sad.
The HW division would never recover.

Just keep ur fetish/fascination with big men to yourselves.
Real boxing fans understand skill.

- Too easy this.

Son of Goofy could never beat a chicken because being beaten ain't in chicken DNA. Being eaten is, so I figure Big Tyson to inhale 5 chickens while Son of Goofy pecks at his chicken, but Son of Goofy does have a chance to beat a chicken egg at first crack, but not with those marshmallow mitts he sports. He'll have to hire Big Tyson to crack that egg for him to beat, so when Big Tyson sees the sweet twofer in front of him, a quick tap and then big Alley Oop both cracks and beats those eggshells in one fell swoop, game over. Nor could all your Humpties and Dumpties ever put'em together again.

Keeping it real is how real life fairy tales end. You should keep your stinkers to yerself and read more of the Bros Grimm, the literary Klitschko Bros of their day......Keeping it real.

Read more comic books!

Dear Mr. Fury's chin,

With the way you stick out, I know you are just dying to meet me.


Sincerely,
an overhand right

jbizzle20 wrote:Dear Mr. Fury's chin,

With the way you stick out, I know you are just dying to meet me.


Sincerely,
an overhand right

Dear Mr. Overhand Right,

Thank you for writing. Please give my best regards
to Mr. Klitschko -- if you happen to see him again.

Yours Truly,
Fury's Chin

Badhusker wrote:I think the key to beating him is attacking his body, big time. If you head hunt a guy that tall, it just isn't going to work unless you mix it up. His body certainly looks soft, and vulnerable. Everyone's body is vulnerable. Imagine someone like Joshua or Wilder landing thunderous shots to Fury's body? Fury pulls his trunks up to his chest as far as possible for a reason.
Wlad could have been even a greater champion than he was, also Ali, if they would have went to the body more imo.

Agreed, duck and weave, under the jab, and fast hooks to the body on the way in.

You need someone with fast hands though and agility - a young Tyson for instance.

Fury appears to be eating well:

Make sure Tyson looks like the picture above and feed him a steady diet of cocain and hookers.
Only way I'd even think of challenging him

Clean my Glock the night before.

He's tall, so get low. Go to the body like Rocky Balboa on a piece of meat.