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Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:34
by rossij8
Horse wrote:gilgamesh wrote:If Bellew wants him just fight the man at Heavyweight and Bellew might can come in at 210 or 215 himself. Size won't be an issue in my opinion. The skills will determine the winner. Nobody has a size advantage here significant enough that it's gonna be the determining factor in the fight.
Haye is the bigger man, so weight will be a factor.
He's also toned with muscle rather than flab
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:36
by Killer Blow
Terrible fight but at least we get to see one of these perennial duckers get sparked, which will obviously be Bellew.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:39
by Horse
Killer Blow wrote:Terrible fight but at least we get to see one of these perennial duckers get sparked, which will obviously be Bellew.
Who's Bellew ducked?
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:41
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:Killer Blow wrote:Terrible fight but at least we get to see one of these perennial duckers get sparked, which will obviously be Bellew.
Who's Bellew ducked?
Briedis.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:42
by Horse
Killer Blow wrote:Briedis.
Bloody hell!
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:45
by rossij8
Killer Blow wrote:Terrible fight but at least we get to see one of these perennial duckers get sparked, which will obviously be Bellew.
I don't think these two have ducked anyone - well not in comparison with other boxers and how boxing works today
Bellew will get sparked and I'm looking forward to it
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:45
by rossij8
Horse wrote:Killer Blow wrote:Briedis.
Bloody hell!
Agree Horse
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:47
by Horse
rossij8 wrote:I don't think these two have ducked anyone - well not in comparison with other boxers and how boxing works today
Haye ducked Cunningham and Fury.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:57
by Nightmare Roy
jameswilson wrote:Looks like this fight is gonna happen given the amount of casual money that will be lapped up. Does anyone think Bellew has a chance? What weight do we reckon Bellew will come in at?
Absolutly no chance, as you say the casuals will fall for that panto BS hook line and sinker
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:57
by keithmoonhangover
Horse wrote:rossij8 wrote:I don't think these two have ducked anyone - well not in comparison with other boxers and how boxing works today
Haye ducked Cunningham and Fury.
He didn't duck Fury. He got injured, just like Fury did against Klitschko. Injuries happen. It's a part of boxing and not in anyway ducking,
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:58
by Killer Blow
Horse wrote:Killer Blow wrote:Briedis.
Bloody hell!
Why isn't he fighting him then? He knows what will happen.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 18:58
by Boxerbeetle
Much as I'd love to see a brutal double ko, I don't think I'd bother buying the PPV. It'd be a radio job for me, then straight onto YouTube to enjoy the no doubt hilarious highlight reel.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:00
by rossij8
Horse wrote:rossij8 wrote:I don't think these two have ducked anyone - well not in comparison with other boxers and how boxing works today
Haye ducked Cunningham and Fury.
Not sure about Cunningham, can't remember tbf - though he travelled to France and KO'ed Mormeck, who was the man at CW at the time
Fury was an odd one, Haye looked uncomfortable at the pressers and didn't look like he wanted to be there and being out staged
I thought at the time he was struggling to think he could beat Fury and then the injury - no belts on the line (?) but £3-4mil surely worth the risk?
Ducking I don't know
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:00
by Nightmare Roy
Boxerbeetle wrote:Much as I'd love to see a brutal double ko, I don't think I'd bother buying the PPV. It'd be a radio job for me, then straight onto YouTube to enjoy the no doubt hilarious highlight reel.
It wouldn't be PPV would it?
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:01
by Twinkle Toes
Tony would get mullered in my opinion, he's far to easy to hit.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:01
by Boxerbeetle
Nightmare Roy wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:Much as I'd love to see a brutal double ko, I don't think I'd bother buying the PPV. It'd be a radio job for me, then straight onto YouTube to enjoy the no doubt hilarious highlight reel.
It wouldn't be PPV would it?
Not sure if you're joking? Course it would, no question at all.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:01
by rossij8
Killer Blow wrote:Horse wrote:Killer Blow wrote:Briedis.
Bloody hell!
Why isn't he fighting him then? He knows what will happen.
How much money would that fight make him?
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:05
by Nightmare Roy
Boxerbeetle wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:Much as I'd love to see a brutal double ko, I don't think I'd bother buying the PPV. It'd be a radio job for me, then straight onto YouTube to enjoy the no doubt hilarious highlight reel.
It wouldn't be PPV would it?
Not sure if you're joking? Course it would, no question at all.
Would it be worthy of PPV in your opinion?
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:09
by Boxerbeetle
Nightmare Roy wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:
It wouldn't be PPV would it?
Not sure if you're joking? Course it would, no question at all.
Would it be worthy of PPV in your opinion?
Well I already said I wouldn't buy it, so no
But it's probably more worthy than Bellew-Cleverly was.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:15
by Killer Blow
rossij8 wrote:Killer Blow wrote:Horse wrote:Bloody hell!
Why isn't he fighting him then? He knows what will happen.
How much money would that fight make him?
3 times less than the Haye fight would make him. Both fights would have the same outcome and he knows it.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:25
by rossij8
Killer Blow wrote:rossij8 wrote:Killer Blow wrote:
Why isn't he fighting him then? He knows what will happen.
How much money would that fight make him?
3 times less than the Haye fight would make him. Both fights would have the same outcome and he knows it.
3 times?
More like 10+
Haye would smash him. Breidis would be a closer fight
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:26
by Nightmare Roy
Boxerbeetle wrote:Nightmare Roy wrote:Boxerbeetle wrote:
Not sure if you're joking? Course it would, no question at all.
Would it be worthy of PPV in your opinion?
Well I already said I wouldn't buy it, so no
But it's probably more worthy than Bellew-Cleverly was.
Ha ha Whisky
![[icon_knockout.gif] :KO:](./images/smilies/icon_knockout.gif)
it would be better than that as you'd be absolutely guaranteed to see a KO.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:27
by Killer Blow
rossij8 wrote:Killer Blow wrote:rossij8 wrote:
How much money would that fight make him?
3 times less than the Haye fight would make him. Both fights would have the same outcome and he knows it.
3 times?
More like 10+
That's ducking then. Avoiding his mandatory to move up and take a farcical mismatch for 10 times the payday.
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:30
by rossij8
Killer Blow wrote:rossij8 wrote:Killer Blow wrote:
3 times less than the Haye fight would make him. Both fights would have the same outcome and he knows it.
3 times?
More like 10+
That's ducking then. Avoiding his mandatory to move up and take a farcical mismatch for 10 times the payday.
That's how boxing works
Re: Haye v Bellew
Posted: 15 Oct 2016, 19:30
by Horse
Killer Blow wrote:That's ducking then. Avoiding his mandatory to move up and take a farcical mismatch for 10 times the payday.
How is taking a much bigger fight ducking?