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Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:42
by Counter-puncher
lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:But the knockdown makes scoring a draw almost impossible due to the point deducted?
I don't think there was a point deducted? Unless I spaced out mid fight which is possible

Ah, as you know I haven't seen it yet, just thought I saw.someone mention a KD
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:47
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:But the knockdown makes scoring a draw almost impossible due to the point deducted?
I don't think there was a point deducted? Unless I spaced out mid fight which is possible

Ah, as you know I haven't seen it yet, just thought I saw.someone mention a KD
Ah okay I get ya. No there was a knockdown. It could be a draw with Ward winning 7-5 but accounting for the 10-8 round right? Maths isn't my strongest suit though by a long shot so I could be missing something totally obvious! Lol.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:51
by lefty
Plus I'm running on very little sleep which could be magnifying my mathematical shortcomings even more lol.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:54
by darkstar81
The judges scored it 7-5 to Ward but with the knockdown that meant 114-113.
If it was 6-6 Kov would have won 114-113. So a draw would have needed Kov to be deducted a point or have been KD.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:55
by Counter-puncher
darkstar81 wrote:The judges scored it 7-5 to Ward but with the knockdown that meant 114-113.
If it was 6-6 Kov would have won 114-113. So a draw would have needed Kov to be deducted a point or have been KD.
Thank you

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:56
by darkstar81
I thought Kov won at least 1 of the last 5 rounds so thought he won. It wasn't a particularly exciting fight though, one for the purists. I watched Creed again last night and the Creed-Conlan fight, now that was exciting! :)
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 07:59
by lefty
I did say maths wasn't my strongest suit

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:01
by Tangerine
Thought Ward nicked it in the final round 114 113 and trust me if I was being biased I would have leant towards Kovalev.The man deserves credit he picked himself of the deck to go onto win that.Fair play to him.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:08
by lefty
I still can't figure out how I came to a draw in my head : /
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:13
by keithmoonhangover
lefty wrote:I still can't figure out how I came to a draw in my head : /
Because you're awesome.

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:14
by littlepug
Had ward winning a hard to score fight, was impressed with the way ward held his sh1t together and did what was needed to get the win
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:15
by davie
Counter-puncher wrote:lefty wrote:Counter-puncher wrote:But the knockdown makes scoring a draw almost impossible due to the point deducted?
I don't think there was a point deducted? Unless I spaced out mid fight which is possible

Ah, as you know I haven't seen it yet, just thought I saw.someone mention a KD
I had scored a 10-10 round which negated the 10-8 round.
Going into the last I had Kovalev 1 up. I scored the last to Kovalev by a narrow margin, with it ending 115-113.
Had I given it to Ward I'd have given a 114-114 draw
I honestly expected more draws given the close nature of the fight and the fact people are split on the outcome
There was one round where the only meaningfull punches were 2 jabs by Ward and 1 from Kovalev, I think it was the 7th or 8th. I scored it for Kovalev based on trying to make something happen but you could easily have scored that level or to Ward
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:18
by lefty
keithmoonhangover wrote:lefty wrote:I still can't figure out how I came to a draw in my head : /
Because you're awesome.


.....however as Davie has alluded to what if we have a 6-5 and one round even scenario?
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:22
by keithmoonhangover
lefty wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:lefty wrote:I still can't figure out how I came to a draw in my head : /
Because you're awesome.


.....however as Davie has alluded to what if we have a 6-5 and one round even scenario?
Ahhh, scenario, schemario.
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Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:24
by lefty
Thank fornicate Im not a bookie- I'd be fucked

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:24
by keithmoonhangover
lefty wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:lefty wrote:I still can't figure out how I came to a draw in my head : /
Because you're awesome.


.....however as Davie has alluded to what if we have a 6-5 and one round even scenario?
Simple. If you scored one of the rounds a 10-10, it could be a draw.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:26
by lefty
Well it's good to know my maths has finally added up

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:26
by Cholo_cws
Counter-puncher wrote:But the knockdown makes scoring a draw almost impossible due to the point deducted?
There was plenty of justification to score some rounds even though.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:27
by lefty
I mean it only took me 20 minutes to work out where I went wrong
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Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:29
by keithmoonhangover
lefty wrote:I mean it only took me 20 minutes to work out where I went wrong
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Get some sleep dude.

Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:30
by Asterix
I knew it would be a boring fight so I didn't bother to watch it. It's such a shame this is the best boxing has to offer at the moment.
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Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:35
by Bard of Boxrec
Asterix wrote:I knew it would be a boring fight so I didn't bother to watch it. It's such a shame this is the best boxing has to offer at the moment.
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It was an intriguing fight. I found it totally absorbing.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:37
by Ezzard
Riddick I think you called the first half of the fight perfectly. Did it surprise you how Ward managed to come back into it?
Did the wrestling take a lot out of Kov?
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 08:47
by Boxerbeetle
Riddick Blowe wrote:Asterix wrote:I knew it would be a boring fight so I didn't bother to watch it. It's such a shame this is the best boxing has to offer at the moment.
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It was an intriguing fight. I found it totally absorbing.
X2. Wasn't exactly a classic, but I couldn't take my eyes off it.
Re: Who won Ward Vs Kovalev
Posted: 20 Nov 2016, 09:39
by Ricky_
Thought the cards were crap.
I had Kovalev winning 1 2 3 4 5 & 10.
Of the rest of the rounds i thought most were close, i preffered Kovalevs agression over Ward's spoiling a grappling. He was also leg-hooking and forearm pushing. Even if i give all of the 6 close rounds to Ward the KD seals the deal.
Ultimately though i don't think either man excelled himself to that p4p #1 slot. I wanted to see Ward box Kovs ears off, or Kovalev spark Ward out, to cement a historic victory. Instead I think we got a messy affair with a close but wrong verdict. Unsatisfying all round imo.