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Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 15:08
by Jip
:lol:

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 15:20
by BAD INTENTIONS
Impractical Poster wrote:
ValMar wrote:I am unbiased person
No such thing.
Of course, but some people are able to realize their acquired bias, thus are able to account for it.

The people here who roasted Floyd for holding Hatton,
even though Floyd did much more in-fighting that Kovalev.
Yet, Kovalev's holding is justified,
actually defending it with a hypocritical bias they wouldn't lend to anyone else.

Guys like Freedom, Blowe, ...

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 15:21
by gilgamesh
I don't see the similarities.

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 16:27
by ValMar
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:
ValMar wrote:I am unbiased person
No such thing.
Of course, but some people are able to realize their acquired bias, thus are able to account for it.

The people here who roasted Floyd for holding Hatton,
even though Floyd did much more in-fighting that Kovalev.
Yet, Kovalev's holding is justified,
actually defending it with a hypocritical bias they wouldn't lend to anyone else.

Guys like Freedom, Blowe, ...
I am white and straight, born and live at Balcan, aghnostic although nominally christian....And I liked Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Lewis, Holyfield, even Tyson.............Now, I like (or respect) Gonzalez, Rigondeaux, Lomachenko, M. Garcia, Crawford, Spence, GGG, Kovalev, Beterbiev, even Ward, Usyk, Lebedev, Gassiev,Huck, Joshua, Klitschko(s), Ortiz, Wilder, Povetkin, even Haye and Fury...How can I be biased, I don't give a fook for race, nationality, ethnicity or religious beliefs....I am fond of boxing, don't care for politics.........

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 16:31
by Impractical Poster
Appreciate the resume, Val.

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 16:33
by ValMar
Impractical Poster wrote:Appreciate the resume, Val.
:TU:

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 17:09
by bigjack
Syntax Error wrote:
TheDarkDestroyer wrote:I haven't seen it in years and years but I remember feeling Reid was robbed against Otke.
Reid was an unlucky guy; he arguably got robbed against Calzaghe too.

I seem to remember Reid being warned for actually hitting Ottke,it was the biggest robbery i have ever seen,Calzaghe though,for me won by a round or two.

Re: Andre Ward is similar to Sven Ottke

Posted: 24 Nov 2016, 17:46
by BAD INTENTIONS
ValMar wrote:I am white and straight, born and live at Balcan, aghnostic although nominally christian....And I liked Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Lewis, Holyfield, even Tyson.............Now, I like (or respect) Gonzalez, Rigondeaux, Lomachenko, M. Garcia, Crawford, Spence, GGG, Kovalev, Beterbiev, even Ward, Usyk, Lebedev, Gassiev,Huck, Joshua, Klitschko(s), Ortiz, Wilder, Povetkin, even Haye and Fury...How can I be biased, I don't give a fook for race, nationality, ethnicity or religious beliefs....I am fond of boxing, don't care for politics.........
Well, I don't think you could have read Freedom 2013 (and the names before that) and not realize you are in the minority.

There hasn't been a serious backlash from Ward fans about Kovalev's holding.
That's because it's in fairness. It's an acceptance.
So, Kovalev supporter then have the gall to accuse Ward of holding too much.

At the end of the fight, I was in complete suspense. I thought he fight was one point either way.
I thought Ward won rounds 3-12, but Kovalev had a 3 point lead.
In those 10 rounds, I thing it was 7-3 Ward. I could also see 6-4 Ward.