Kalan wrote:You damned right... Oscar had a forward head, allowing Floyd to easily reach him with the jab and land 86 more punches.. Hopkins and Winky jabbed the crap out of Trinidad because he loads his jab.. Russell is way shorter than Hyland and Gonzalez but he jabbed the living crap out of them and KO'd them quickly.
Russell only had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year.. Santa Cruz, Mares, Selby, and Frampton are ducking him, because he'll smash them out like there's no tomorrow.. It was a tremendous advantage for Oscar to be able to name his opponents.. Gary can't do that, but he's a better fighter.
Let's review; Gary Russell Jr. is better than Odlh and Tito according to Kalan. In otherwords, Loma beating Russell jr is a superior feat to defeating Oscar and Trinidad.
Ok, thanks for that. If it were possible to disagree more than 100% that is where my opinion would be. Odlh and Tito are ATGs Kalan. Russell jr is unlikely to get a sniff of the HOF.
Loma is a wonderful talent. Rather than doing everything you can to ruin the experience of observing his great talent, why not just let him prove how great he can become rather than hawking him like a used car?
You don't know what you're looking at or you wouldn't post such ridiculous things..
Oscar LOST to almost EVERY top boxer he faced, and lowly Felix Sturm beat Oscar as well... Trinidad was boxed to death by underdog Hopkins and taken apart by Winky Wright's jab.. Don't tell me those 2 boys were stellar boxers because they weren't.. Russell is a very fine boxer with a jab that neither De La Hoya or Trinidad ever possessed.. They never had the game Russell has.. Russell will definitely be in the HOF someday if he gets the right fights.. He would be half way there if he wasn't kicked down stairs.. if he had the opportunities he deserves to fight Leo Santa Cruz.. Lee Selby.. Carl Frampton and other top featherweights.. He fought once this year and once last year because he's the most fear Featherweight in the world.. And that jackass Al Haymon is doing nothing for him.. Haymon is destroying Boxing, but he's not doing it on his own.. He's getting help.
Kalan wrote:You damned right... Oscar had a forward head, allowing Floyd to easily reach him with the jab and land 86 more punches.. Hopkins and Winky jabbed the crap out of Trinidad because he loads his jab.. Russell is way shorter than Hyland and Gonzalez but he jabbed the living crap out of them and KO'd them quickly.
Russell only had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year.. Santa Cruz, Mares, Selby, and Frampton are ducking him, because he'll smash them out like there's no tomorrow.. It was a tremendous advantage for Oscar to be able to name his opponents.. Gary can't do that, but he's a better fighter.
Let's review; Gary Russell Jr. is better than Odlh and Tito according to Kalan. In otherwords, Loma beating Russell jr is a superior feat to defeating Oscar and Trinidad.
Ok, thanks for that. If it were possible to disagree more than 100% that is where my opinion would be. Odlh and Tito are ATGs Kalan. Russell jr is unlikely to get a sniff of the HOF.
Loma is a wonderful talent. Rather than doing everything you can to ruin the experience of observing his great talent, why not just let him prove how great he can become rather than hawking him like a used car?
You don't know what you're looking at or you wouldn't post such ridiculous things..
Oscar LOST to almost EVERY top boxer he faced, and lowly Felix Sturm beat Oscar as well... Trinidad was boxed to death by underdog Hopkins and taken apart by Winky Wright's jab.. Don't tell me those 2 boys were stellar boxers because they weren't.. Russell is a very fine boxer with a jab that neither De La Hoya or Trinidad ever possessed.. They never had the game Russell has.. Russell will definitely be in the HOF someday if he gets the right fights.. He would be half way there if he wasn't kicked down stairs.. if he had the opportunities he deserves to fight Leo Santa Cruz.. Lee Selby.. Carl Frampton and other top featherweights.. He fought once this year and once last year because he's the most fear Featherweight in the world.. And that jackass Al Haymon is doing nothing for him.. Haymon is destroying Boxing, but he's not doing it on his own.. He's getting help.
I think that I will allow everyone to judge for themselves on our perspectives on this subject. Russell Jr is a fine professional boxer. He is NOT being ducked like a 3G and he is a solar system away from accomplishing what Tito and ODLH have accomplished.
He was an excellent win for Loma but he is nothing close to having the notch a W over ODLH or Tito would provide. And there is another side to the story on Russell Jr's low activity level. He is the one who has been brought along like a baby bird being carried in two hands to and from the nest. His team chose the antithesis of Loma's path.
Why?
I don't think that the top fighters in and around his weight class have been avoiding him for years.
sorry which one of the 17 kos in 45 fights convinced you he's a puncher???
Could it be argued that it's tougher to KO elite-level world-rated fighters than second-tier contenders?
Therefore, fighters that regularly mix with top-drawer opposition are less likely to win by stoppage than those that face cab drivers?
Whilst Pernell Whitaker was almost certainly no KO specialist, his poor stoppage record is more likely due to the quality of opposition he fought rather than being a feather-fisted wimp.
Vasyl must thanks a lot to his father. Anatoliy Lomachenko thats who pushed Hi-Tech on such level. Father made many detail in his son personality. For example he turned Vasyl (who was naturally orthodox) into a southpaw; also he forced own son to dance and to wrestle from early childhood.
Evander wrote:Lomachenko does not hit hard, scale of 1/10 he's a 5+.
He's not a banger, but I think he's hurt all of his opponents. He doesn't load up whatsoever and seems to sacrifice a bit of power in order to throw more quickly and accurately.
victor-romeo wrote:
Lomachenko was willing to leave his prime weight of 126 early in search of money and glory, Rigondeaux seems to be locked into wanting to stay in his best weight and niche of 122 and not searching for glory and money at 126 to this point.
Rigo went to 122 for the glory, his best weight is likely 118. 124 was a reasonable catch weight but Loma wanted none of it.
Kalan wrote:You damned right... Oscar had a forward head, allowing Floyd to easily reach him with the jab and land 86 more punches.. Hopkins and Winky jabbed the crap out of Trinidad because he loads his jab.. Russell is way shorter than Hyland and Gonzalez but he jabbed the living crap out of them and KO'd them quickly.
Russell only had 1 fight this year and 1 fight last year.. Santa Cruz, Mares, Selby, and Frampton are ducking him, because he'll smash them out like there's no tomorrow.. It was a tremendous advantage for Oscar to be able to name his opponents.. Gary can't do that, but he's a better fighter.
Let's review; Gary Russell Jr. is better than Odlh and Tito according to Kalan. In otherwords, Loma beating Russell jr is a superior feat to defeating Oscar and Trinidad.
Ok, thanks for that. If it were possible to disagree more than 100% that is where my opinion would be. Odlh and Tito are ATGs Kalan. Russell jr is unlikely to get a sniff of the HOF.
Loma is a wonderful talent. Rather than doing everything you can to ruin the experience of observing his great talent, why not just let him prove how great he can become rather than hawking him like a used car?
You don't know what you're looking at or you wouldn't post such ridiculous things..
Oscar LOST to almost EVERY top boxer he faced, and lowly Felix Sturm beat Oscar as well... Trinidad was boxed to death by underdog Hopkins and taken apart by Winky Wright's jab.. Don't tell me those 2 boys were stellar boxers because they weren't.. Russell is a very fine boxer with a jab that neither De La Hoya or Trinidad ever possessed.. They never had the game Russell has.. Russell will definitely be in the HOF someday if he gets the right fights.. He would be half way there if he wasn't kicked down stairs.. if he had the opportunities he deserves to fight Leo Santa Cruz.. Lee Selby.. Carl Frampton and other top featherweights.. He fought once this year and once last year because he's the most fear Featherweight in the world.. And that jackass Al Haymon is doing nothing for him.. Haymon is destroying Boxing, but he's not doing it on his own.. He's getting help.
Oscar didn't have a jab nor could box?
Just because he lost to master boxers doesn't mean he couldn't box. Mexican weren't keen on him because he was content to box rather than brawl given his punching power.
You say Oscar lost every big match. Russell never fought in a big match and never beat ANY relevant opponent. Russell is still a prospect after 8 years as a pro. Oscar was winning multiple championships by then. And BTW, Oscar didn't pass out at his Olympic Trial. He went all the way and won a gold.
