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Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 13:01
by Enlightened-One
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't recall an enlightened thread about canelo rematching Lara. Loving ward & Stevenson and hating ggg. That's all he has.
Quit your crying kid.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 13:17
by Ossyrules
It was a close fight, I can see both sides of this.
Jacobs got close enough to want another go
GGG beat him, Jacobs has had his chance, now he looks elsewhere
If the fight was a barn storming view it'd have more chance. It wasn't a memorable watch
Do people here criticise ward and mayweather for not giving rematches? Can't say I've read one of them threads
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 14:27
by Enlightened-One
boxing_rocks wrote:GGG is injured. That is the only reason Jacobs "figured" him out.
Proof of injury?
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 14:33
by Enlightened-One
Ossyrules wrote:Do people here criticise ward and mayweather for not giving rematches? Can't say I've read one of them threads
People are blinded by their own bias, so they criticise Ward and Mayweather without recognising the good things they achieved.
So whilst Canelo and Golovkin both refuse to share the ring again with men they scored controversial victories against, both Ward and Mayweather had no problem granting immediate rematches to their beaten foes whenever the outcome of their bouts were contentious.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 14:54
by Ossyrules
Enlightened-One wrote:Ossyrules wrote:Do people here criticise ward and mayweather for not giving rematches? Can't say I've read one of them threads
People are blinded by their own bias, so they criticise Ward and Mayweather without recognising the good things they achieved.
So whilst Canelo and Golovkin both refuse to share the ring again with men they scored controversial victories against, both Ward and Mayweather had no problem granting immediate rematches to their beaten foes whenever the outcome of their bouts were contentious.
But if they're not receiving criticism re rematches isn't this a null point? Or am I missing something?
I like and rate ward and mayweather highly, but I think it's clear where they come for areas of criticism. But no rematches, certainly for mayweather anyway. And ward if the kovalev fight goes through
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 16:18
by apollo creed
GGG vs BJS for all mw titles, enough said.

Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 16:47
by MachoTime
Enlightened-One wrote:Ossyrules wrote:Do people here criticise ward and mayweather for not giving rematches? Can't say I've read one of them threads
People are blinded by their own bias, so they criticise Ward and Mayweather without recognising the good things they achieved.
So whilst Canelo and Golovkin both refuse to share the ring again with men they scored controversial victories against, both Ward and Mayweather had no problem granting immediate rematches to their beaten foes whenever the outcome of their bouts were contentious.
Boxing Fans likely criticize Mayweather and Ward cause they are thought of as boring fighters..
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:04
by watsupdoc87
Enlightened-One wrote:"Golovkin has next three bouts tentatively scheduled, possible opponents named by trainer"
Asked... whether a rematch with Jacobs was in the forefront of 'GGG' and his promoter at K2, Tom Loeffler's mind, Sanchez stated there were at least three opponents ahead of the American in the pecking order.
"Gennady is fighting in September against somebody, and if it’s Canelo then it will be Canelo, then after that, it will be his 20th defense. Will he stay and do the 21st defense to break Bernard Hopkins’ record? I don’t know if he stays at 160 lbs or if he moves up to 168 lbs before the end of the year or at the beginning of next year."
On a potential move up to 168 pounds, Sanchez added: "The guy who has been talking about fighting him is Gilberto Ramirez, so there are possibilities there. The next three or four fights are really scheduled already, or tentatively scheduled. A Jacobs fight would be five or six fights down the road."
With Saunders, Canelo and Ramirez mentioned as Golovkin's most likely foes by Sanchez, this news comes as a blow to those who say Jacobs deserved a rematch on the back of his efforts last month.
People seem to enjoy criticising fighters like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to hideously obscene levels, but unlike Canelo & GGG, at least they allow their opponents an immediate shot at redemption whenever their victories are perceived as highly-contentious!
Double-standards? Thoughts?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Why do you copy and paste these articles, and then slip in your little biased opinions of fighters you dont like up. Ive noticed this the past few months. You copy and past articles from some site elsewhere with quotes carefully selected to try undermine the fighter your posting about and then add in your own bit of biased commentary at the end so to reiterate the point that this fighter you dont like is duking, cheating ect. Just post the fuking articles and then post your own opinion separately. Or go do some research and have ingenuity to actually write a well researched piece instead of this shite you constantly post. Anyway its obvious your a sad dickhead and its quite clear who your bias is towards by every post. #letsgotrump
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:06
by boxing_rocks
Or better, EO, get the f*ck out.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:25
by Enlightened-One
watsupdoc87 wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:"Golovkin has next three bouts tentatively scheduled, possible opponents named by trainer"
Asked... whether a rematch with Jacobs was in the forefront of 'GGG' and his promoter at K2, Tom Loeffler's mind, Sanchez stated there were at least three opponents ahead of the American in the pecking order.
"Gennady is fighting in September against somebody, and if it’s Canelo then it will be Canelo, then after that, it will be his 20th defense. Will he stay and do the 21st defense to break Bernard Hopkins’ record? I don’t know if he stays at 160 lbs or if he moves up to 168 lbs before the end of the year or at the beginning of next year."
On a potential move up to 168 pounds, Sanchez added: "The guy who has been talking about fighting him is Gilberto Ramirez, so there are possibilities there. The next three or four fights are really scheduled already, or tentatively scheduled. A Jacobs fight would be five or six fights down the road."
With Saunders, Canelo and Ramirez mentioned as Golovkin's most likely foes by Sanchez, this news comes as a blow to those who say Jacobs deserved a rematch on the back of his efforts last month.
People seem to enjoy criticising fighters like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to hideously obscene levels, but unlike Canelo & GGG, at least they allow their opponents an immediate shot at redemption whenever their victories are perceived as highly-contentious!
Double-standards? Thoughts?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Why do you copy and paste these articles, and then slip in your little biased opinions of fighters you dont like up. Ive noticed this the past few months. You copy and past articles from some site elsewhere with quotes carefully selected to try undermine the fighter your posting about and then add in your own bit of biased commentary at the end so to reiterate the point that this fighter you dont like is duking, cheating ect. Just post the fuking articles and then post your own opinion separately. Or go do some research and have ingenuity to actually write a well researched piece instead of this shite you constantly post. Anyway its obvious your a sad dickhead and its quite clear who your bias is towards by every post. #letsgotrump
Performing research and then providing informative evidence to support one's clearly educated opinion is not an unreasonable thing to do.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:27
by Enlightened-One
boxing_rocks wrote:Or better, EO, get the f*ck out.
I’m glad I am causing you emotional distress. It is highly-enjoyable to undermine your lying biased nonsense, especially when you’re nearly always powerless to prove your claims.
You should ignore my posts from now on, since I don’t want to do you more harm.

Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:30
by lazboy
watsupdoc87 wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:"Golovkin has next three bouts tentatively scheduled, possible opponents named by trainer"
Asked... whether a rematch with Jacobs was in the forefront of 'GGG' and his promoter at K2, Tom Loeffler's mind, Sanchez stated there were at least three opponents ahead of the American in the pecking order.
"Gennady is fighting in September against somebody, and if it’s Canelo then it will be Canelo, then after that, it will be his 20th defense. Will he stay and do the 21st defense to break Bernard Hopkins’ record? I don’t know if he stays at 160 lbs or if he moves up to 168 lbs before the end of the year or at the beginning of next year."
On a potential move up to 168 pounds, Sanchez added: "The guy who has been talking about fighting him is Gilberto Ramirez, so there are possibilities there. The next three or four fights are really scheduled already, or tentatively scheduled. A Jacobs fight would be five or six fights down the road."
With Saunders, Canelo and Ramirez mentioned as Golovkin's most likely foes by Sanchez, this news comes as a blow to those who say Jacobs deserved a rematch on the back of his efforts last month.
People seem to enjoy criticising fighters like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to hideously obscene levels, but unlike Canelo & GGG, at least they allow their opponents an immediate shot at redemption whenever their victories are perceived as highly-contentious!
Double-standards? Thoughts?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Why do you copy and paste these articles, and then slip in your little biased opinions of fighters you dont like up. Ive noticed this the past few months. You copy and past articles from some site elsewhere with quotes carefully selected to try undermine the fighter your posting about and then add in your own bit of biased commentary at the end so to reiterate the point that this fighter you dont like is duking, cheating ect. Just post the fuking articles and then post your own opinion separately. Or go do some research and have ingenuity to actually write a well researched piece instead of this shite you constantly post. Anyway its obvious your a sad dickhead and its quite clear who your bias is towards by every post. #letsgotrump
I've said it before but I guinuinely feel Enlightened One is unwell. I've also noticed that when a large majority of people/fans/us respect a particular boxer she adopts the opposite stance. She can claim all she wants that she is a Golovkin fan but clearly...is not. She must go against the masses. She is compelled. Is this part of her sickness? A symptom? I've also noticed that the original stance that she adopts is often the only stance. For example in this post she is expresses the view that this is double standards, bias, and asks for our thoughts. We have provided them, yet she refutes them, aggressively, without taking any on onboard.And there are some that are intelligent and worth being considered. Why ask for our thoughts if her minds already made up? Is that the definition of trolling? Does she want everyone to be convinced by her one sided argument? Or is just looking for an argument? Questions, questions, lots of them, but I will never get a honest answer out of the enlightened one.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:33
by watsupdoc87
Enlightened-One wrote:watsupdoc87 wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:"Golovkin has next three bouts tentatively scheduled, possible opponents named by trainer"
Asked... whether a rematch with Jacobs was in the forefront of 'GGG' and his promoter at K2, Tom Loeffler's mind, Sanchez stated there were at least three opponents ahead of the American in the pecking order.
"Gennady is fighting in September against somebody, and if it’s Canelo then it will be Canelo, then after that, it will be his 20th defense. Will he stay and do the 21st defense to break Bernard Hopkins’ record? I don’t know if he stays at 160 lbs or if he moves up to 168 lbs before the end of the year or at the beginning of next year."
On a potential move up to 168 pounds, Sanchez added: "The guy who has been talking about fighting him is Gilberto Ramirez, so there are possibilities there. The next three or four fights are really scheduled already, or tentatively scheduled. A Jacobs fight would be five or six fights down the road."
With Saunders, Canelo and Ramirez mentioned as Golovkin's most likely foes by Sanchez, this news comes as a blow to those who say Jacobs deserved a rematch on the back of his efforts last month.
People seem to enjoy criticising fighters like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr. to hideously obscene levels, but unlike Canelo & GGG, at least they allow their opponents an immediate shot at redemption whenever their victories are perceived as highly-contentious!
Double-standards? Thoughts?
![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
Why do you copy and paste these articles, and then slip in your little biased opinions of fighters you dont like up. Ive noticed this the past few months. You copy and past articles from some site elsewhere with quotes carefully selected to try undermine the fighter your posting about and then add in your own bit of biased commentary at the end so to reiterate the point that this fighter you dont like is duking, cheating ect. Just post the fuking articles and then post your own opinion separately. Or go do some research and have ingenuity to actually write a well researched piece instead of this shite you constantly post. Anyway its obvious your a sad dickhead and its quite clear who your bias is towards by every post. #letsgotrump
Performing research and then providing informative evidence to support one's clearly educated opinion is not an unreasonable thing to do.
Performing research me bollox. YOUR educated opinion, cop on you fraud, stop pretending your some learned boxing scholar when your just a dope with a chip on his shoulder, its pathetic.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 18:34
by world ranked
All this guy is doing is calling out bias from the fans. Not respecting guys with great resume and overrating guys with lesser resumes. I see some people are blinded by there biases.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 19:08
by Enlightened-One
world ranked wrote:All this guy is doing is calling out bias from the fans. Not respecting guys with great resume and overrating guys with lesser resumes. I see some people are blinded by there biases.
Please provide an example and I will either concede your point or defend my original claim (depending on the nature of the example you supply).

Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 19:10
by Enlightened-One
lazboy wrote:I've said it before but I guinuinely feel Enlightened One is unwell. I've also noticed that when a large majority of people/fans/us respect a particular boxer she adopts the opposite stance. She can claim all she wants that she is a Golovkin fan but clearly...is not. She must go against the masses. She is compelled. Is this part of her sickness? A symptom? I've also noticed that the original stance that she adopts is often the only stance. For example in this post she is expresses the view that this is double standards, bias, and asks for our thoughts. We have provided them, yet she refutes them, aggressively, without taking any on onboard.And there are some that are intelligent and worth being considered. Why ask for our thoughts if her minds already made up? Is that the definition of trolling? Does she want everyone to be convinced by her one sided argument? Or is just looking for an argument? Questions, questions, lots of them, but I will never get a honest answer out of the enlightened one.
Please provide some examples to support your accusations. For instance, since when have I never supplied you with an "honest answer"?
The points I made in this thread are all factually-correct.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 19:14
by world ranked
Enlightened-One wrote:world ranked wrote:All this guy is doing is calling out bias from the fans. Not respecting guys with great resume and overrating guys with lesser resumes. I see some people are blinded by there biases.
Please provide an example and I will either concede your point or defend my original claim (depending on the nature of the example you supply).

I agree with your points
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Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 19:17
by Enlightened-One
world ranked wrote:Enlightened-One wrote:world ranked wrote:All this guy is doing is calling out bias from the fans. Not respecting guys with great resume and overrating guys with lesser resumes. I see some people are blinded by there biases.
Please provide an example and I will either concede your point or defend my original claim (depending on the nature of the example you supply).

I agree with your points
![[icon_notworthy.gif] :bow:](./images/smilies/icon_notworthy.gif)
Nice one

Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 20:47
by SaadOffTheDeck
Enlightened-One wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't recall an enlightened thread about canelo rematching Lara. Loving ward & Stevenson and hating ggg. That's all he has.
Quit your crying kid.
You're a vile creature. Nobody likes you.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 21:19
by crusader
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't recall an enlightened thread about canelo rematching Lara. Loving ward & Stevenson and hating ggg. That's all he has.
I actually discussed that with fergus a couple years ago. I asked him why he didn't express a desire for a Lara-Canelo rematch, even though he started a thread calling for Smith-Abraham II on the basis of most people having it a competitive fight. He laughably cited a list of media scores in which only 34 percent of people had Canelo winning (the rest was split between a Lara win and a draw), as if that somehow showed that Canelo conclusively deserved to win. He also brought out CompuBox numbers and tried to appeal to the 'prestige' of certain media outlets, suggesting that Dan Rafael's card for Canelo should count for more because he works for ESPN.
It sure seems that CompuBox stats and Rafael's card don't mean much to him when it comes to GGG-Jacobs and Ward-Kov though
Here is the link to the thread, although it's hard to follow because fergie lost his balls one night and got a mod to delete his account (so you only see him in quoted bits) :
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... r&start=25
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 21:26
by boxing_rocks
fergus and EO is likely the same POS.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 21:29
by crusader
It obviously is
He went crying to a mod to get his fergus account deleted. He could only handle getting owned so much....
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 22:42
by SaadOffTheDeck
crusader wrote:SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't recall an enlightened thread about canelo rematching Lara. Loving ward & Stevenson and hating ggg. That's all he has.
I actually discussed that with fergus a couple years ago. I asked him why he didn't express a desire for a Lara-Canelo rematch, even though he started a thread calling for Smith-Abraham II on the basis of most people having it a competitive fight. He laughably cited a list of media scores in which only 34 percent of people had Canelo winning (the rest was split between a Lara win and a draw), as if that somehow showed that Canelo conclusively deserved to win. He also brought out CompuBox numbers and tried to appeal to the 'prestige' of certain media outlets, suggesting that Dan Rafael's card for Canelo should count for more because he works for ESPN.
It sure seems that CompuBox stats and Rafael's card don't mean much to him when it comes to GGG-Jacobs and Ward-Kov though
Here is the link to the thread, although it's hard to follow because fergie lost his balls one night and got a mod to delete his account (so you only see him in quoted bits) :
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... r&start=25
He's one sick sob.
Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 00:55
by MachoTime
crusader wrote:It obviously is
He went crying to a mod to get his fergus account deleted. He could only handle getting owned so much....
fergus

Re: Golovkin to Have Five or Six Fights Before Granting Jacobs Rematch!
Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 01:36
by watsupdoc87
Fergus fergus give us a bell. Haha mupet
