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Rob Magic wrote:I wont judge Parker on this fight. Cojanu was awkward. Every fighter has a bad night now and then. Parker wanted to fight but Cojanu wouldnt let him.

crusader wrote:Havent seen the fight, but losing rounds to Cojanu and failing to get a stoppage arent good signs

His stock has dropped a lot for me in his last two

Freedom wrote:Parker must give Ruiz Jr. a rematch.

Tanzio wrote:It would be entertaining to see Wilder's last four or five opponents fight Parker's. Ruiz and Takam are not head and / or shoulders above Wilder's competition.

Let's get Stiverne, Duhaupus, Szpilka, and Titeola in the ring with Ruiz, Takam, Dimitrenko, etc., and see how it comes out. And let's get Parker in the ring with Wilder.

Talk is cheap.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:Parker got this win and I think he won v Ruiz and Takam. He has not been overly impressive but he keeps winning. His stock has not risen or declined for me but it is time to step it up, as it has been for years with Wilder.

Parker v Wilder would be worthwhile. It would be the best win for either and setup a huge fight with AJ or . . .

What do you mean step it up? Guy fought Takam, Ruiz Jr., and Dimitrenko. His resume craps all over Wilder's. He's been looking like crap lately, though. It's a given when you step up to good fighters like Takam and Ruiz Jr., but looking like crap against the stiffs is really bad.

Wilder made Molina and Duhaupus look like terminators.

Yet another wading pool brain with a shallow reaction to what was a complimentary post for Parker.

While Wilder's opposition recently is not exemplary, his opponents are on par with Parker's. It would be entertaining to see Wilder's last four or five opponents fight Parker's. Ruiz and Takam are not head and / or shoulders above Wilder's competition.

Let's get Stiverne, Duhaupus, Szpilka, and Titeola in the ring with Ruiz, Takam, Dimitrenko, etc., and see how it comes out. And let's get Parker in the ring with Wilder.

Talk is cheap.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: What do you mean step it up? Guy fought Takam, Ruiz Jr., and Dimitrenko. His resume craps all over Wilder's. He's been looking like crap lately, though. It's a given when you step up to good fighters like Takam and Ruiz Jr., but looking like crap against the stiffs is really bad.

Wilder made Molina and Duhaupus look like terminators.

Yet another wading pool brain with a shallow reaction to what was a complimentary post for Parker.

While Wilder's opposition recently is not exemplary, his opponents are on par with Parker's. It would be entertaining to see Wilder's last four or five opponents fight Parker's. Ruiz and Takam are not head and / or shoulders above Wilder's competition.

Let's get Stiverne, Duhaupus, Szpilka, and Titeola in the ring with Ruiz, Takam, Dimitrenko, etc., and see how it comes out. And let's get Parker in the ring with Wilder.

Talk is cheap.

Yes, they are. Thinking any different is utterly idiotic. Takam went at it with Povetkin. Duhaupus almost got killed. Takam is head and shoulders better than Szpilka, Duhaupus, and Stiverne. Get either of those three in there with Povetkin and you'll see.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Yet another wading pool brain with a shallow reaction to what was a complimentary post for Parker.

While Wilder's opposition recently is not exemplary, his opponents are on par with Parker's. It would be entertaining to see Wilder's last four or five opponents fight Parker's. Ruiz and Takam are not head and / or shoulders above Wilder's competition.

Let's get Stiverne, Duhaupus, Szpilka, and Titeola in the ring with Ruiz, Takam, Dimitrenko, etc., and see how it comes out. And let's get Parker in the ring with Wilder.

Talk is cheap.

Yes, they are. Thinking any different is utterly idiotic. Takam went at it with Povetkin. Duhaupus almost got killed. Takam is head and shoulders better than Szpilka, Duhaupus, and Stiverne. Get either of those three in there with Povetkin and you'll see.

Let's get them together to fight each other and find out. Unless that happens, our opinions are pure conjecture. Pure BS.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: Yes, they are. Thinking any different is utterly idiotic. Takam went at it with Povetkin. Duhaupus almost got killed. Takam is head and shoulders better than Szpilka, Duhaupus, and Stiverne. Get either of those three in there with Povetkin and you'll see.

Let's get them together to fight each other and find out. Unless that happens, our opinions are pure conjecture. Pure BS.

No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

punchoutsb wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Let's get them together to fight each other and find out. Unless that happens, our opinions are pure conjecture. Pure BS.

No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

To be fair, Duhaupas took the fight on a days notice, was in terrible shape, had tennis shoes on, and had no business being in the ring that night. He and Takam would be a good fight, and pretty evenly matched.

Mexi-Box wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

To be fair, Duhaupas took the fight on a days notice, was in terrible shape, had tennis shoes on, and had no business being in the ring that night. He and Takam would be a good fight, and pretty evenly matched.

Regardless, Parker's resume is holding up a lot better than Wilder's. Dimitrenko stopped a highly-touted prospect, Takam is still a top-rated heavyweight, and Ruiz Jr. is currently ranked in the top 10 under most fans' rankings I've seen.

punchoutsb wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:
To be fair, Duhaupas took the fight on a days notice, was in terrible shape, had tennis shoes on, and had no business being in the ring that night. He and Takam would be a good fight, and pretty evenly matched.

Regardless, Parker's resume is holding up a lot better than Wilder's. Dimitrenko stopped a highly-touted prospect, Takam is still a top-rated heavyweight, and Ruiz Jr. is currently ranked in the top 10 under most fans' rankings I've seen.

I've been a Wilder resume critic for years now, so you'll get no argument from me. That being said Ruiz isn't in my top ten, neither is Takam, and Dimitrenko's highly-touted prospect turned out to be a flop.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: Yes, they are. Thinking any different is utterly idiotic. Takam went at it with Povetkin. Duhaupus almost got killed. Takam is head and shoulders better than Szpilka, Duhaupus, and Stiverne. Get either of those three in there with Povetkin and you'll see.

Let's get them together to fight each other and find out. Unless that happens, our opinions are pure conjecture. Pure BS.

No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote: Let's get them together to fight each other and find out. Unless that happens, our opinions are pure conjecture. Pure BS.

No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

What does PEDvetkin have to do with it other than triangulation? Let's get Duhaupus v Takam or Ruiz Jr. made and stop triangulating. Let's put Gerald Washington or Szpilka or Stiverne in with the one who does not fight Duhaupus.

Then you would have something to talk about. One of the last things I want to see is Parker v Wilder's victims or vice versa. Any combinations between Parker, Wilder, AJ, Wlad, Ortiz and Pulev make sense. The next tier can vie for fights with the losers of those combos.

The ingredients are there for an excellent series of top level HW fights, as well as a good bunch of next level competition.

I have always agreed that Wilder needs to step up. Parker is that perfect step, if not AJ, Wlad, Pulev or Ortiz.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: No, did you see what happened when Duhaupus stepped up to Povetkin? Takam got into a fire fight while Duhaupus just got killed. And people probably rate Duhaupus as Wilder's second or first best win as he's still in a top spot unlike Stiverne.

Not really triangulation theory when you have resume and overall rankings. Where are Stiverne, Duhaupus, and Szpilka currently ranked compared to Ruiz Jr., Takam, and Dimitrenko. Answer me that.

What does PEDvetkin have to do with it other than triangulation? Let's get Duhaupus v Takam or Ruiz Jr. made and stop triangulating. Let's put Gerald Washington or Szpilka or Stiverne in with the one who does not fight Duhaupus.

Then you would have something to talk about. One of the last things I want to see is Parker v Wilder's victims or vice versa. Any combinations between Parker, Wilder, AJ, Wlad, Ortiz and Pulev make sense. The next tier can vie for fights with the losers of those combos.

The ingredients are there for an excellent series of top level HW fights, as well as a good bunch of next level competition.

I have always agreed that Wilder needs to step up. Parker is that perfect step, if not AJ, Wlad, Pulev or Ortiz.

As I said, the rankings are there for everyone to see. Parker's wins have surpassed Wilder as they've aged. Wilder's have become a bit of a running joke. Other than Duahupus, none of Wilder's past opponents are generally ranked high.

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote: What does PEDvetkin have to do with it other than triangulation? Let's get Duhaupus v Takam or Ruiz Jr. made and stop triangulating. Let's put Gerald Washington or Szpilka or Stiverne in with the one who does not fight Duhaupus.

Then you would have something to talk about. One of the last things I want to see is Parker v Wilder's victims or vice versa. Any combinations between Parker, Wilder, AJ, Wlad, Ortiz and Pulev make sense. The next tier can vie for fights with the losers of those combos.

The ingredients are there for an excellent series of top level HW fights, as well as a good bunch of next level competition.

I have always agreed that Wilder needs to step up. Parker is that perfect step, if not AJ, Wlad, Pulev or Ortiz.

As I said, the rankings are there for everyone to see. Parker's wins have surpassed Wilder as they've aged. Wilder's have become a bit of a running joke. Other than Duahupus, none of Wilder's past opponents are generally ranked high.

. . . any longer.

Like I said, let's match them up on undercards and find out who is who. Ruiz Jr. and Takam would also not likely be rated as high if they had been ktfo by Wilder.

Why not Ruiz Jr. v Duahaupus and Stiverne v Takam? That would sort some of this out, since rankings below the first handful or so of names are generally all over the place.

Are you trying to say that Wilder does not merit a fight with Parker, while also claiming that Parker lost those fights? Again, I just want to get this stuff settled. Let's see who comes out the other end of Parker v Wilder and we can go from there.

IT wrote:Parker is distinctly mediocre.

Mexi-Box wrote:

punchoutsb wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: Regardless, Parker's resume is holding up a lot better than Wilder's. Dimitrenko stopped a highly-touted prospect, Takam is still a top-rated heavyweight, and Ruiz Jr. is currently ranked in the top 10 under most fans' rankings I've seen.

I've been a Wilder resume critic for years now, so you'll get no argument from me. That being said Ruiz isn't in my top ten, neither is Takam, and Dimitrenko's highly-touted prospect turned out to be a flop.

Post your top 10.

Mexi-Box wrote:

Tanzio wrote:

Mexi-Box wrote: As I said, the rankings are there for everyone to see. Parker's wins have surpassed Wilder as they've aged. Wilder's have become a bit of a running joke. Other than Duahupus, none of Wilder's past opponents are generally ranked high.

. . . any longer.

Like I said, let's match them up on undercards and find out who is who. Ruiz Jr. and Takam would also not likely be rated as high if they had been ktfo by Wilder.

Why not Ruiz Jr. v Duahaupus and Stiverne v Takam? That would sort some of this out, since rankings below the first handful or so of names are generally all over the place.

Are you trying to say that Wilder does not merit a fight with Parker, while also claiming that Parker lost those fights? Again, I just want to get this stuff settled. Let's see who comes out the other end of Parker v Wilder and we can go from there.

I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.

crusader wrote:Havent seen the fight, but losing rounds to Cojanu and failing to get a stoppage arent good signs

His stock has dropped a lot for me in his last two

crusader wrote:

Wales wrote:
Saw him 18 months ago and told everyone he was the unknown next big thing. Now he's the most known unknown thing in boxing. And having seen him more and more hes impressed less and less.

Which fights have made you progressively less impressed?

Wales wrote:

crusader wrote:

Wales wrote:
Saw him 18 months ago and told everyone he was the unknown next big thing. Now he's the most known unknown thing in boxing. And having seen him more and more hes impressed less and less.

Which fights have made you progressively less impressed?