Any news on Spence and Brook

[Evander]

Love the match up I'm getting excited about this one.
Right off the bat I gotta say Kell Brook is a proper fighter, just look at who he's been boxing or will take on.

Shawn Porter who's no pushover and Brook went to the U.S to do it.

GGG, Brook moved up 2 weight classes to fight arguably the biggest puncher in the sport.

Now an up and coming unbeaten young guy like Errol Spence in the UK.

However it goes down Kell Brook has earned his stripes, that said when I first saw them square off face to face Brook looked a little worn but that was awhile ago.
It should be very interesting seeing how Spence deals with what will be a very partisan English crowd and no doubt they will put the heat on Spence, it's the biggest test of his pro career.
I'm intrigued to see where the fight will take place and by that I mean on the inside outside or a mix of both, game plans and trainers like likely play a big role too.
Has Brook taken a lot of punishment ?
Is Spence too inexperienced to deal with such an occasion ?
Just a couple of questions that are running through my head among others.

I can't remember a fighter in my 35 years of watching Boxing that has had a tougher two fight stretch than Brook (GGG&Spence). Brook has watermelons for nuts and I think most of the Brit Boxers are trying to make the fights that fans want to see. I can't say the same for my American countrymen however. So Brook should get a TON of credit for taking these two fights, win or lose.

With that said, I don't see Brook winning this fight unless he makes it ugly. Like he did with Porter, he's got to get inside and use the clinch to score and keep this fight inside a phone booth. The only advantage he has is strength, size and knowledge. Spence doesn't have the experience to see everything that could happen in there. Brook has to put him in a first time situation throughout this fight. If Brook tries to fight this fight from distance and box, Spence will pick him apart. Spence doesn't have great defense so it should be interesting to see if Brook has the type of power to hurt Spence and make him pay for taking those shots to give some.

Good piece well said

[Badhusker]

I got a feeling spence could be getting exposed this fight. Brook could stop him. Spence better be defensively tight and see the punches coming to deal with them, or I see him getting hurt, and depending on his survival skills brook could get him out there

Porter chose not to fight his way out of the many, many clinches that Brook initiated. Porter has learned from that experience, and is probably why he has refused to give Porter a rematch.
Spence will make Brook pay every time he tries to tie him up, and force him to fight. Spence stopped a guy that Pacquiao couldn't stop. He stopped a guy that Thurman couldn't. His offense doesn't have any question marks I can see. His defense will be the key to the fight I think. I see Brook getting on his bike for the most part, but it will be interesting to see how Spence handles some big shots. Spence will KO him between the 8th and 11th round, imo. He doesn't want to put it in the hands of the judges. The fans will scream every time Brook throws something, whether it lands or not.

Beating algieri and bundu are nowhere near the tests to say spences offense has no gaps. He did a good job on both though I'll give him that, but both fighters were fairly shop worn when spence got them

I pointed out two boxers that were common opponents of Thurman and Pacquiao. Khan barely survived against Algieri, and CA beat Povodnikov. Not a great resume but Spence is a lot farther ahead than Brook was at 21 fights. Since 2004, Brook has one close win against a very good fighter in Porter. His best claim to fame though seems to be almost making it half the fight with GGG. Before him, Bizer, Jojo Dan, and Gavin aren't exactly what I would call top opponents. Brook probably has a record though of good fights that almost happened. Alexander, Rios, Bradley, Vargas, Khan, etc.

I like the fact that he has to fight Spence, but don't give him credit like some do, because he was basically forced to take the fight with no options other than moving up. He had to fight to avoid the embarrassment of ducking. If Brook cherry picks he can have some success at 154, if he avoids guys like Charlo, Andrade, JRock, and Lara. Even Trout or Vanes M. would be 50-50 for him.

Spence vs Brook will be a tough fight for both, but I have no doubt who will win.

[Kalan]

I expect an epic fight... Possibly the best Welterweight fight ever... And I expect Errol Spence to prevail.

The last time an American went to England and lifted the Welterweight Title -- Carlos Palomino battered and KO'd weak looking John Stracey for his 20th win in 24 fights... Those were a couple of namby pamby Welterweights who almost seemed like choir boys next to these 2 brutal sluggers.

yeah, Palomino was a nambypamby, you're such a fvcking idiot

In comparison to Spence and Brook you sniveling dolt. Maybe you didn't see his fights with Benitez, Duran, and Hedgemon Lewis.

[Taansend]

I expect an epic fight... Possibly the best Welterweight fight ever... And I expect Errol Spence to prevail.

The last time an American went to England and lifted the Welterweight Title -- Carlos Palomino battered and KO'd weak looking John Stracey for his 20th win in 24 fights... Those were a couple of namby pamby Welterweights who almost seemed like choir boys next to these 2 brutal sluggers.

yeah, Palomino was a nambypamby, you're such a fvcking idiot

[Ossyrules]

Porter chose not to fight his way out of the many, many clinches that Brook initiated. Porter has learned from that experience, and is probably why he has refused to give Porter a rematch.
Spence will make Brook pay every time he tries to tie him up, and force him to fight. Spence stopped a guy that Pacquiao couldn't stop. He stopped a guy that Thurman couldn't. His offense doesn't have any question marks I can see. His defense will be the key to the fight I think. I see Brook getting on his bike for the most part, but it will be interesting to see how Spence handles some big shots. Spence will KO him between the 8th and 11th round, imo. He doesn't want to put it in the hands of the judges. The fans will scream every time Brook throws something, whether it lands or not.

Beating algieri and bundu are nowhere near the tests to say spences offense has no gaps. He did a good job on both though I'll give him that, but both fighters were fairly shop worn when spence got them

I pointed out two boxers that were common opponents of Thurman and Pacquiao. Khan barely survived against Algieri, and CA beat Povodnikov. Not a great resume but Spence is a lot farther ahead than Brook was at 21 fights. Since 2004, Brook has one close win against a very good fighter in Porter. His best claim to fame though seems to be almost making it half the fight with GGG. Before him, Bizer, Jojo Dan, and Gavin aren't exactly what I would call top opponents. Brook probably has a record though of good fights that almost happened. Alexander, Rios, Bradley, Vargas, Khan, etc.

I like the fact that he has to fight Spence, but don't give him credit like some do, because he was basically forced to take the fight with no options other than moving up. He had to fight to avoid the embarrassment of ducking. If Brook cherry picks he can have some success at 154, if he avoids guys like Charlo, Andrade, JRock, and Lara. Even Trout or Vanes M. would be 50-50 for him.

Spence vs Brook will be a tough fight for both, but I have no doubt who will win.

That spence is being progressed quicker means nothing come fight night, so the majority of your post is bollocks. It comes down to who is the best man on the night. Not "spence is fighting better opposition earlier".

You have double standards. You're willing to give spence credit for beating a battle worn algieri, who is not top level despite what anyone says, then will say brooks claim to fame is 5 rounds with ggg.

You're a spence fan boy and a brook hater it seems. Back spence to win by all means but cut out the drivel in between

[Badhusker]

Beating algieri and bundu are nowhere near the tests to say spences offense has no gaps. He did a good job on both though I'll give him that, but both fighters were fairly shop worn when spence got them

I pointed out two boxers that were common opponents of Thurman and Pacquiao. Khan barely survived against Algieri, and CA beat Povodnikov. Not a great resume but Spence is a lot farther ahead than Brook was at 21 fights. Since 2004, Brook has one close win against a very good fighter in Porter. His best claim to fame though seems to be almost making it half the fight with GGG. Before him, Bizer, Jojo Dan, and Gavin aren't exactly what I would call top opponents. Brook probably has a record though of good fights that almost happened. Alexander, Rios, Bradley, Vargas, Khan, etc.

I like the fact that he has to fight Spence, but don't give him credit like some do, because he was basically forced to take the fight with no options other than moving up. He had to fight to avoid the embarrassment of ducking. If Brook cherry picks he can have some success at 154, if he avoids guys like Charlo, Andrade, JRock, and Lara. Even Trout or Vanes M. would be 50-50 for him.

Spence vs Brook will be a tough fight for both, but I have no doubt who will win.

That spence is being progressed quicker means nothing come fight night, so the majority of your post is bollocks. It comes down to who is the best man on the night. Not "spence is fighting better opposition earlier".

You have double standards. You're willing to give spence credit for beating a battle worn algieri, who is not top level despite what anyone says, then will say brooks claim to fame is 5 rounds with ggg.

You're a spence fan boy and a brook hater it seems. Back spence to win by all means but cut out the drivel in between

I don't think the fight will be decided due to their competition, it is the heart and skill that will decide it. If you noticed when GGG finally went to hitting Brook's body, Brook stopped throwing punches. They threw in the towel because the end was near. Spence has a more brutal body attack than GGG imo, and that will make Brook run and attempt to hold. Brook has great combinations, good power, but will need more to win. I thought Porter edged him in their fight, but that is in the past. Many thought Brook should have been penalized for excessive holding, but I fault Porter for not fighting his way out better. Spence will keep punching whether Brook is holding one arm or not.
Anyway, I am not a Brook hater, just think he is over-matched. If he had so much confidence he wouldn't have tried so desperately to get out of fighting Spence.

[Ossyrules]

I pointed out two boxers that were common opponents of Thurman and Pacquiao. Khan barely survived against Algieri, and CA beat Povodnikov. Not a great resume but Spence is a lot farther ahead than Brook was at 21 fights. Since 2004, Brook has one close win against a very good fighter in Porter. His best claim to fame though seems to be almost making it half the fight with GGG. Before him, Bizer, Jojo Dan, and Gavin aren't exactly what I would call top opponents. Brook probably has a record though of good fights that almost happened. Alexander, Rios, Bradley, Vargas, Khan, etc.

I like the fact that he has to fight Spence, but don't give him credit like some do, because he was basically forced to take the fight with no options other than moving up. He had to fight to avoid the embarrassment of ducking. If Brook cherry picks he can have some success at 154, if he avoids guys like Charlo, Andrade, JRock, and Lara. Even Trout or Vanes M. would be 50-50 for him.

Spence vs Brook will be a tough fight for both, but I have no doubt who will win.

That spence is being progressed quicker means nothing come fight night, so the majority of your post is bollocks. It comes down to who is the best man on the night. Not "spence is fighting better opposition earlier".

You have double standards. You're willing to give spence credit for beating a battle worn algieri, who is not top level despite what anyone says, then will say brooks claim to fame is 5 rounds with ggg.

You're a spence fan boy and a brook hater it seems. Back spence to win by all means but cut out the drivel in between

I don't think the fight will be decided due to their competition, it is the heart and skill that will decide it. If you noticed when GGG finally went to hitting Brook's body, Brook stopped throwing punches. They threw in the towel because the end was near. Spence has a more brutal body attack than GGG imo, and that will make Brook run and attempt to hold. Brook has great combinations, good power, but will need more to win. I thought Porter edged him in their fight, but that is in the past. Many thought Brook should have been penalized for excessive holding, but I fault Porter for not fighting his way out better. Spence will keep punching whether Brook is holding one arm or not.
Anyway, I am not a Brook hater, just think he is over-matched. If he had so much confidence he wouldn't have tried so desperately to get out of fighting Spence.

Fair assessment though I disagree with these points, but it's just my opinion.

- GGG goes to the body better. His hooks to the body are wicked. I find it hard to believe spence can top golovkin. Relatively speaking spence can have success vs brook at 147 than what golovkin faced at brook 160. This isn't a weight excuse. It's just fact that the extra weight assist durability to take punches.

- I severely disputed brook was ducking spence. Or that he doesn't have the confidence to win. If he was lining up bum after bum then you may have a point, but he went up 2 weight to face a p4p monster. It was a bigger fight than spence. Brook has also spent a lot of time going for the Khan fight. Wasted time. Which was also a bigger fight than spence. All things point toward he weren't ducking spence. If this were to be true he could easily have not fought and gone up in weight etc