Re: Katie Taylor v Conor McGregor
Posted: 24 May 2017, 09:59
BitPlayer wrote:I'm not convinced on the 40% bit. First it says it is less pronounced, you'd need to check by how much that actually means, not just assume it's 40%. BUt you're also assuming a linear relationship between strength and weightskanksta wrote:banjo wrote:
Yep because he's a bloke she's a bird.
For woman vs man fights to be fair - the woman must outweigh the man by a minimum of 40%.
Realistically that's a 12 stone woman vs a Super-Bantam. Laila Ali vs Scott Quigg anyone ?!![]()
Macgregor would masticate Katie Taylor even if she outskilled him.
Science bit.
Aggregated data of absolute strength indicates that females have, on average, 40-60% the upper body strength of males, and 70-75% the lower body strength.[79] The difference in strength relative to body mass is less pronounced in trained individuals. In Olympic weightlifting, male records vary from 5.5× body mass in the lowest weight category to 4.2× in the highest weight category, while female records vary from 4.4× to 3.8×, a weight adjusted difference of only 10-20%, and an absolute difference of about 30% (i.e. 472 kg vs 333 kg for unlimited weight classes)(see Olympic weightlifting records). A study, carried about by analyzing annual world rankings from 1980–1996, found that males' running times were, on average, 11% faster than females'.[80]
Males typically have larger tracheae and branching bronchi, with about 30 percent greater lung volume per body mass. On average, males have larger hearts, 10 percent higher red blood cell count, higher hemoglobin, hence greater oxygen-carrying capacity. They also have higher circulating clotting factors (vitamin K, prothrombin and platelets). These differences lead to faster healing of wounds and higher peripheral pain tolerance.[83]
I am not "assuming a linear relationship between strength and weight."
First I'm considering the weight to strength maximum absolute difference of 30% as well as the weight-adjusted difference of 10-20%.
Then I'm adding in the higher/lower pain threshold and considering both the larger lung capacity and 10% increase in red blood cells. Finally - there's a bit about higher bone density that I didn't cut and paste.
I'm taking all these factors together - and then - pulling a guess out of my arse.
I reckon 40% is a fair handicap - that would see 6'2" Lindsay Davenport @ just below 80kg in her pomp fighting Stuey Hall.
Serena Williams vs Andrew Selby ?!
I'm starting to really want to see some of these fights !
What handicap do you suggest ?