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world ranked wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Don't act like if you ever bet you wouldn't throw a few dollars on an underdog.

I'm not acting like that. I have definitely thought about throwing money down on the underdog. But, I have got to give the underdog a chance. I do not give Broner a chance here. Sure, nothing is 100%. But, the odds just aren't enough for me to waste my money.

At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

At Garcia? No.

As you can tell, I'm very high on Garcia. For me, he is the 2nd best boxer in the world. And him being #1 isn't completely out of the question seeing as how he had no problem dispatching of an opponent who has a win over my current #1 guy.

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: I'm not acting like that. I have definitely thought about throwing money down on the underdog. But, I have got to give the underdog a chance. I do not give Broner a chance here. Sure, nothing is 100%. But, the odds just aren't enough for me to waste my money.

At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

At Garcia? No.

As you can tell, I'm very high on Garcia. For me, he is the 2nd best boxer in the world. And him being #1 isn't completely out of the question seeing as how he had no problem dispatching of an opponent who has a win over my current #1 guy.

Well you obviously rate Garcia much higher than most. If I was an oddsmaker and wanted to make the odds what I considered fair, I would make Garcia a 2.5-1 favorite against either broner or linares. So there is value there imo.

jockpunk wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:
At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

At Garcia? No.

As you can tell, I'm very high on Garcia. For me, he is the 2nd best boxer in the world. And him being #1 isn't completely out of the question seeing as how he had no problem dispatching of an opponent who has a win over my current #1 guy.

Well you obviously rate Garcia much higher than most. If I was an oddsmaker and wanted to make the odds what I considered fair, I would make Garcia a 2.5-1 favorite against either broner or linares. So there is value there imo.

That's fine... I've got my own opinion, you've got yours. It will be evident come fight time why Broner is such a huge underdog.

world ranked wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:
Don't act like if you ever bet you wouldn't throw a few dollars on an underdog.

I'm not acting like that. I have definitely thought about throwing money down on the underdog. But, I have got to give the underdog a chance. I do not give Broner a chance here. Sure, nothing is 100%. But, the odds just aren't enough for me to waste my money.

At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

I'd like to say baby mamas again.
Not only is it one if my favourite Americanisms but having 6 baby mamas has to be the biggest motivator there is.
6 baby mamas suckling 7 kids.
6 baby mamas with 6 lawyers.
6 baby mamas used to being high on the hog.
If he dosent pull in big money every year he will be more broke than Tyson was by 2020.
6 baby mamas sucking him dry, and not "in the good way" has to movitate him to not only make weight, but to win.
By the power of baby mamas he is not an underdog by 5-1.

Edited to add more baby mamas to post

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

world ranked wrote:

Impractical Poster wrote: I'm not acting like that. I have definitely thought about throwing money down on the underdog. But, I have got to give the underdog a chance. I do not give Broner a chance here. Sure, nothing is 100%. But, the odds just aren't enough for me to waste my money.

At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

Just look at a betting site. Linares is only (+225 or 9/4) compared to Broner (5/1) one of those are wrong. I think both are wrong but this is even more reason for me to take Broner.

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

world ranked wrote:
At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

Just look at a betting site. Linares is only (+225 or 9/4) compared to Broner (5/1) one of those are wrong. I think both are wrong but this is even more reason for me to take Broner.

It doesn't really matter, because neither of those odds would be worth me risking my money. If it was outrageous, odds, I'd put some on Broner only because it would be a little better then lottery odds. But, risking $100 bucks for $500 on a guy I am almost certain will lose is a no go.But, if you feel Broner is a live dog, then he is worth the risk.

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

world ranked wrote:
At 5 to 1 would you give Linares a shot?

Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

Just look at a betting site. Linares is only (+225 or 9/4) compared to Broner (5/1) one of those are wrong. I think both are wrong but this is even more reason for me to take Broner.

Lol, I wouldn't take either of them.

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

Just look at a betting site. Linares is only (+225 or 9/4) compared to Broner (5/1) one of those are wrong. I think both are wrong but this is even more reason for me to take Broner.

It doesn't really matter, because neither of those odds would be worth me risking my money. If it was outrageous, odds, I'd put some on Broner only because it would be a little better then lottery odds. But, risking $100 bucks for $500 on a guy I am almost certain will lose is a no go.But, if you feel Broner is a live dog, then he is worth the risk.

I really liked him in his last fight Garcia. So focused, also relaxed, boxer puncher with smarts. I think he's great for the lighter weights. This fight with Broner is a treat. Broner doesn't like pressure, likes time to work, likes a certain slow pace. Maybe this came from Mayweathers gym. I think they're big on pacing and then slowly lifting the momentum. But Broner is no Mayweather and he gets caught, out worked and then can't get back into it. Or maybe its as simple as Broner is lazy and is worried he will gas out because he hasnt trained hard enough. He has good power though, Broner imo. Saying that, not sure if Garcia is a pressure fighter. Doesn't he like to box? Take his time, be smart? If Garcia can get his jab on Broner in the first couple of rounds and doesn't take punishment, I see him winning comfortably. If not, If Broner can land those left hooks. It will be a hard fight for Garcia but I still think he'll win. As do most apparently. But still could be very close, Broner is very big and does have skill, so he has more than a punchers chance.

Broner is weak. Trains 70 %
Mikey is strong. Trains 95 %

Simple answer why mg is the clear favourite

Jip wrote:Broner is weak. Trains 70 %
Mikey is strong. Trains 95 %

Simple answer why mg is the clear favourite

Yea that is simple.

lazboy wrote:I really liked him in his last fight Garcia. So focused, also relaxed, boxer puncher with smarts. I think he's great for the lighter weights. This fight with Broner is a treat. Broner doesn't like pressure, likes time to work, likes a certain slow pace. Maybe this came from Mayweathers gym. I think they're big on pacing and then slowly lifting the momentum. But Broner is no Mayweather and he gets caught, out worked and then can't get back into it. Or maybe its as simple as Broner is lazy and is worried he will gas out because he hasnt trained hard enough. He has good power though, Broner imo. Saying that, not sure if Garcia is a pressure fighter. Doesn't he like to box? Take his time, be smart? If Garcia can get his jab on Broner in the first couple of rounds and doesn't take punishment, I see him winning comfortably. If not, If Broner can land those left hooks. It will be a hard fight for Garcia but I still think he'll win. As do most apparently. But still could be very close, Broner is very big and does have skill, so he has more than a punchers chance.

That's pretty much how I see it too.
Broner gets overwhelmed by busyer boxers. He needs time and space to launch his attacks. Garcia is smart enough, and fit enough to sustain enough pressure to put Broner on the back foot. Which still allows Broner a punchers chance, if he can land that is.

KiwiRider wrote:

lazboy wrote:I really liked him in his last fight Garcia. So focused, also relaxed, boxer puncher with smarts. I think he's great for the lighter weights. This fight with Broner is a treat. Broner doesn't like pressure, likes time to work, likes a certain slow pace. Maybe this came from Mayweathers gym. I think they're big on pacing and then slowly lifting the momentum. But Broner is no Mayweather and he gets caught, out worked and then can't get back into it. Or maybe its as simple as Broner is lazy and is worried he will gas out because he hasnt trained hard enough. He has good power though, Broner imo. Saying that, not sure if Garcia is a pressure fighter. Doesn't he like to box? Take his time, be smart? If Garcia can get his jab on Broner in the first couple of rounds and doesn't take punishment, I see him winning comfortably. If not, If Broner can land those left hooks. It will be a hard fight for Garcia but I still think he'll win. As do most apparently. But still could be very close, Broner is very big and does have skill, so he has more than a punchers chance.

That's pretty much how I see it too.
Broner gets overwhelmed by busyer boxers. He needs time and space to launch his attacks. Garcia is smart enough, and fit enough to sustain enough pressure to put Broner on the back foot. Which still allows Broner a punchers chance, if he can land that is.

Yea Garcia is smart enough you're right, they'll have a good game plan. Maidana smashed Broner under Robert Garcia (I'm pretty certain). Maybe won't be that close then haha, it's hard to call actually but thats what you want. Good promising fight. Looking forward to it.

Broner sounds fair depressed and also delusional here. He might be broken. That none of his opponents stand in front of him. Didn't Grandos just do that. Apparently also Maidana told Garcia that Broner is the biggest puncher he faced and one of the reason he quit boxing, because of the punishment he took from Broner, apparently took more from Broner than from Mayweather or anyone else for that matter. That is either Maidana trying to get Broner over confident or trying and sell this fight, I can't believe it. It's a very odd thing to say. Anyway it's all in this video.

https://youtu.be/0ji_ZhWqkqo

Actually want Broner to win. Never cared for Mikey since the Salido quit job, now acting like he KOd Salido or something.

Blodhemn wrote:Actually want Broner to win. Never cared for Mikey since the Salido quit job, now acting like he KOd Salido or something.

Good point here and I'm pulling for Broner as well. Mikey Garcia's resume is pathetic and doesn't deserve all the attention he's getting. He's fought one good fighter in Salido and somehow he gets out of that fight with a broken nose....A BROKEN NOSE? Are you kidding me? I remember watching that thinking how crooked boxing is. If Salido had the broken nose and couldn't continue then i'm sure it would have been called a TKO win for Garcia. Imagine if every fight was called for broken noses? We'd never finish any fights. Joke. Soft.

Again, i'd love to see Broner win this fight but he just doesn't have the punch volume that he needs in these big fights. For some reason, he has these 40 second lulls where he just lets the other boxer unload with unanswered shots with one glove by his face and the other down low. He's faster than everyone and has shown that he has significant power with that bomb he landed on Porter. Mikey has been shown the canvas by less so maybe there's a chance here.

I'll put something on Broner.

So it's a win win situation for me.

Broner wins = £££

Garcia wins = Seeing Broner lose

Broner's mouth pays his cheques. He's a lazy fighter who likes drinking and eating too much.

caldo2025 wrote:

Blodhemn wrote:Actually want Broner to win. Never cared for Mikey since the Salido quit job, now acting like he KOd Salido or something.

Good point here and I'm pulling for Broner as well. Mikey Garcia's resume is pathetic and doesn't deserve all the attention he's getting. He's fought one good fighter in Salido and somehow he gets out of that fight with a broken nose....A BROKEN NOSE? Are you kidding me? I remember watching that thinking how crooked boxing is. If Salido had the broken nose and couldn't continue then i'm sure it would have been called a TKO win for Garcia. Imagine if every fight was called for broken noses? We'd never finish any fights. Joke. Soft.

Again, i'd love to see Broner win this fight but he just doesn't have the punch volume that he needs in these big fights. For some reason, he has these 40 second lulls where he just lets the other boxer unload with unanswered shots with one glove by his face and the other down low. He's faster than everyone and has shown that he has significant power with that bomb he landed on Porter. Mikey has been shown the canvas by less so maybe there's a chance here.

He was head butted on the bridge of the nose. He was destroying Salido. Knocked him down 4 times. It wasn't like it was close or anything.

lazboy wrote:Broner sounds fair depressed and also delusional here. He might be broken. That none of his opponents stand in front of him. Didn't Grandos just do that. Apparently also Maidana told Garcia that Broner is the biggest puncher he faced and one of the reason he quit boxing, because of the punishment he took from Broner, apparently took more from Broner than from Mayweather or anyone else for that matter. That is either Maidana trying to get Broner over confident or trying and sell this fight, I can't believe it. It's a very odd thing to say. Anyway it's all in this video.

https://youtu.be/0ji_ZhWqkqo

Once retired Maidana did a 'Best I've Faced' for The Ring, and he said Ortiz was the biggest puncher he faced. All the knockdowns seem to bear that out...

lazboy wrote:Broner sounds fair depressed and also delusional here. He might be broken. That none of his opponents stand in front of him. Didn't Grandos just do that. Apparently also Maidana told Garcia that Broner is the biggest puncher he faced and one of the reason he quit boxing, because of the punishment he took from Broner, apparently took more from Broner than from Mayweather or anyone else for that matter. That is either Maidana trying to get Broner over confident or trying and sell this fight, I can't believe it. It's a very odd thing to say. Anyway it's all in this video.

https://youtu.be/0ji_ZhWqkqo

Yes its interesting. AB saying he wants to turn back the clock before the big money and all the shenanigans began.

Is this just an act? Would have liked to have heard more about of how he's going to do this. Otherwise you have to assume the worst.

First time I've heard a boxer openly begrudge how McGregor got the Mayweather fight on the back of nothing as a boxer.

Impractical Poster wrote:

world ranked wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
Linares has less of a chance than Broner.

Just look at a betting site. Linares is only (+225 or 9/4) compared to Broner (5/1) one of those are wrong. I think both are wrong but this is even more reason for me to take Broner.

It doesn't really matter, because neither of those odds would be worth me risking my money. If it was outrageous, odds, I'd put some on Broner only because it would be a little better then lottery odds. But, risking $100 bucks for $500 on a guy I am almost certain will lose is a no go.But, if you feel Broner is a live dog, then he is worth the risk.

You'd be crazy. I give Linares a very slim chance. Only reason I want to see this fight is because it'll be interesting while it lasts. Linares is easily the most talented boxer Mikey would've faced, and I'd think it would be a chess match. Only thing is Linares' chin would likely fail him against a gigantic puncher like Mikey.

I also give Broner more of a chance than Linares. Broner is a big guy with a solid chin. Still, I wouldn't bet money on either underdog. I think they'd both get murked. Garcia is a p4p talent. There are levels to this.

Broner arguably lost to Granados. What makes you think he's going to defeat Mikey?

Thomastearns wrote:

lazboy wrote:Broner sounds fair depressed and also delusional here. He might be broken. That none of his opponents stand in front of him. Didn't Grandos just do that. Apparently also Maidana told Garcia that Broner is the biggest puncher he faced and one of the reason he quit boxing, because of the punishment he took from Broner, apparently took more from Broner than from Mayweather or anyone else for that matter. That is either Maidana trying to get Broner over confident or trying and sell this fight, I can't believe it. It's a very odd thing to say. Anyway it's all in this video.

https://youtu.be/0ji_ZhWqkqo

Yes its interesting. AB saying he wants to turn back the clock before the big money and all the shenanigans began.

Is this just an act? Would have liked to have heard more about of how he's going to do this. Otherwise you have to assume the worst.

First time I've heard a boxer openly begrudge how McGregor got the Mayweather fight on the back of nothing as a boxer.

Past behaviour is a good predictor of future behaving. Broner has been saying this "turning his life around" speal for quite some time. Still...who knows, could be surprised plus he has power, decent skill and is the bigger man. It's a recipe for an interesting night.

crusader wrote:

lazboy wrote:Broner sounds fair depressed and also delusional here. He might be broken. That none of his opponents stand in front of him. Didn't Grandos just do that. Apparently also Maidana told Garcia that Broner is the biggest puncher he faced and one of the reason he quit boxing, because of the punishment he took from Broner, apparently took more from Broner than from Mayweather or anyone else for that matter. That is either Maidana trying to get Broner over confident or trying and sell this fight, I can't believe it. It's a very odd thing to say. Anyway it's all in this video.

https://youtu.be/0ji_ZhWqkqo

Once retired Maidana did a 'Best I've Faced' for The Ring, and he said Ortiz was the biggest puncher he faced. All the knockdowns seem to bear that out...

Oh he did say that did he, that makes more sense, plus I thought Floyd kicked his ass in the first one fight haha. BTW, did you mean to say "all the interviews seem to bear that out"? Anyway, very strange and inconsistent from Maindana, theres got to be an angle to it.