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armageto wrote:I had it 116-111 for Pac. I have a really hard time giving 7 rounds to Horn or not ONE judge giving Pac a 10-8 round in the 9th.

Horn gets KO'd against Thurman, Porter, Spence, etc.

Manny landes 182-91, 123-73 in power....

Horn seems like a nice guy, but he didn't win....

The correct analysis

As shown on the rbr I had it 115-112 Pac. It was close. Pac let him off the hook and Horn came back strong.

Stephen A. Smith is such an arrogant ass. Now he is sounding like Krushedner fans.

Brute wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Michael Rosenthal and Dan Rafael got it 117-111 Pac

So they bet on the wrong fighter.

Scoring the fight is objective. Pacquiao won. He landed more. He landed heavier shots. There's no doubt about who won.

crusader wrote:Ya, Atlas was pro-Pac. He somehow gave him the 6th, which was probably Horn's biggest round.

I had Horn taking the 1st, 6th, 9th and 10th

Atlas did not even acknowledge one Horn punch let alone a round. You all have been bewitched by his eye/mouth twitch. If you rewatch the fight without Atlas coloured glasses maybe you will see what the judges saw. Horn teeing off on a lifeless Manny.

I think Pac should've won, but other than Round 9, which round was overwhelming clear to judge? 117-111 is a joke, but 115-113 (twice) isn't inexcusable.

lazboy wrote:Atlas did not even acknowledge one Horn punch let alone a round. You all have been bewitched by his eye/mouth twitch. If you rewatch the fight without Atlas coloured glasses maybe you will see what the judges saw. Horn teeing off on a lifeless Manny.

I have eyes. Teddy Atlas doesn't tell me what's going on. I can see it for myself.

gilgamesh wrote:

lazboy wrote:Atlas did not even acknowledge one Horn punch let alone a round. You all have been bewitched by his eye/mouth twitch. If you rewatch the fight without Atlas coloured glasses maybe you will see what the judges saw. Horn teeing off on a lifeless Manny.

I have eyes. Teddy Atlas doesn't tell me what's going on. I can see it for myself.

Thats because you were bewitched by the twitch.

That decision was disgraceful. Horn fouling with his head every single round, barely landing any good shots just that arm punching in the clinch no weight or power at all behind it. No way in hell horn deserved to win that fight, none.

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:Ya, Atlas was pro-Pac. He somehow gave him the 6th, which was probably Horn's biggest round.

I had Horn taking the 1st, 6th, 9th and 10th

No you didn't.

There was no robbery here. It was a cracking fight and close but I thought Horn edged it.

Boring Thread.

Tanzio wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

crusader wrote:Ya, Atlas was pro-Pac. He somehow gave him the 6th, which was probably Horn's biggest round.

I had Horn taking the 1st, 6th, 9th and 10th

No you didn't.

Correction. I had Horn taking the 8th and 10th. Pacquiao lit him up in the 9th. I got mixed up there.

Some people are clearly bewitched by a guy moving forward, while being minimally effective.

ldlamb wrote:Some people are clearly bewitched by a guy moving forward, while being minimally effective.

Some people don't know how to score boxing, it's that simple. Walking forward means winning to these simpletons.

SFW wrote:That decision was disgraceful. Horn fouling with his head every single round, barely landing any good shots just that arm punching in the clinch no weight or power at all behind it. No way in hell horn deserved to win that fight, none.

This is how you win a fight at home though. No penalties, all rewards, and the home crowd rejoices.

gilgamesh wrote:

Brute wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Michael Rosenthal and Dan Rafael got it 117-111 Pac

So they bet on the wrong fighter.

Scoring the fight is objective. Pacquiao won. He landed more. He landed heavier shots. There's no doubt about who won.

Two of the judges were American, the other was Argentinian. No bias. How much did you bet on Pacman?

gilgamesh wrote:

ldlamb wrote:Some people are clearly bewitched by a guy moving forward, while being minimally effective.

Some people don't know how to score boxing, it's that simple. Walking forward means winning to these simpletons.

I know! Glad we agree. I mean how could someone doing nothing and being hit by the biggest and best punches in the round lose rounds.

Brute wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Brute wrote:

So they bet on the wrong fighter.

Scoring the fight is objective. Pacquiao won. He landed more. He landed heavier shots. There's no doubt about who won.

Two of the judges were American, the other was Argentinian. No bias. How much did you bet on Pacman?

Had no money on the fight. I'm just not blind. I'm also not a Pacquiao fan, but right is right.

This was no robbery. Neither was the Easter W.

Is it just me or did Pac attempt the rope a dope at one stage in the earlier rounds?

Personally for me it was pretty even either way you argue.... thought Pac gave away a few rounds early through inactivity.... Horn dug deep when he looked all but gone.... wouldnt go as far to say it was a robbery....

Tanzio wrote:This was no robbery. Neither was the Easter W.

I didn't think the Easter win was a robbery. I thought he won. Pacquiao won tonight.

Somebody stuff a towel in Stephen A Smith's mug.

Tanzio wrote:Somebody stuff a towel in Stephen A Smith's mug.

The most annoying thing he keeps saying is "You don't see robberies in the UFC"...he clearly doesn't follow Combat sports. He just likes to play "expert" on TV.

The punch stats seemed too heavily weighted in Manny's favour to me. I was seeing Horn have more success than that...

I first thought the stats were off in Mosley's undercard bout, as they had him outlanding an opponent who I thought was outboxing him.