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Ossyrules wrote:Athletes tend to be "fit for purpose". Ones not necessarily "fitter" than the other, it's just the conditioning you need to succeed at that discipline. Being as Conor is stepping into Floyds world, he will have to make the adjustments. It really is apples and oranges though trying to say which is which.

Saying that I'm from a boxing background and I have big respect for wrestlers, mma, judo etc. It'd sure wear me down quicker than boxing

It's a matter of comfort. Anxiety is over half the battle with stamina for trained athletes. I was a much better Boxer than I was a wrestler. So it was much easier for me. The easiest part of wrestling practice was the 3-5 mile run. My friends and I used to chew tobacco during it.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:Athletes tend to be "fit for purpose". Ones not necessarily "fitter" than the other, it's just the conditioning you need to succeed at that discipline. Being as Conor is stepping into Floyds world, he will have to make the adjustments. It really is apples and oranges though trying to say which is which.

Saying that I'm from a boxing background and I have big respect for wrestlers, mma, judo etc. It'd sure wear me down quicker than boxing

It's a matter of comfort. Anxiety is over half the battle with stamina for trained athletes. I was a much better Boxer than I was a wrestler. So it was much easier for me. The easiest part of wrestling practice was the 3-5 mile run. My friends and I used to chew tobacco during it.

Yes anxiety/nervous are an energy killer for sure

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Lesnar did use some wrestling but he wasn't that bad of a striker for someone who isn't a trained boxer or even a martial artist.

He was poor at striking, especially taking punches. I have to question if you've ever seen him fight if you think his success was primarily based on striking. It most certainly was not.

70% of guys in the UFC are poor at taking punches. It's what makes it exciting.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
It's a matter of comfort. Anxiety is over half the battle with stamina for trained athletes. .

the ability to stay relaxed and loose is probably the most overlooked element of success for the fighters who can manage it.

you only have to spar someone much better than you, and then spar someone on or below your level, to instantly notice the difference. the dude on your level, the mere absence of fear or more accurately probably trepidation, straight away makes you more efficient. you twitch less at feints, your mind is clear and you're not constantly second-guessing how the other dude is about to light you up so you're more relaxed and not wasting nervous energy and your punches flow more effortlessly as a result.

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote:
Lesnar did use some wrestling but he wasn't that bad of a striker for someone who isn't a trained boxer or even a martial artist.

He was poor at striking, especially taking punches. I have to question if you've ever seen him fight if you think his success was primarily based on striking. It most certainly was not.

70% of guys in the UFC are poor at taking punches. It's what makes it exciting.

Counter-puncher wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
It's a matter of comfort. Anxiety is over half the battle with stamina for trained athletes. .

the ability to stay relaxed and loose is probably the most overlooked element of success for the fighters who can manage it.

you only have to spar someone much better than you, and then spar someone on or below your level, to instantly notice the difference. the dude on your level, the mere absence of fear or more accurately probably trepidation, straight away makes you more efficient. you twitch less at feints, your mind is clear and you're not constantly second-guessing how the other dude is about to light you up so you're more relaxed and not wasting nervous energy and your punches flow more effortlessly as a result.

I always felt relaxed in sparring but would get nerves during the walk to the ring for a bout. The crowd did it to me as I didn't even want to get hit in front of them. I'd be blowing out my ass by end of second round.

IKSRTFO wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

IKSRTFO wrote: It's telling that Brock Lesnar, an athlete with mainly an NCAA wrestling background and no striking experience was able to compete with legends primarily using his strength in striking.

I assume you meant to say Wrestling?

No, along with Pro wrestling, Lesnar was an NCAA wrestling champion and when he fought in the UFC, he beat guys like Frank Mir with striking.

Lol wut

Lesnar was/is renowned for having poor striking standing both offensively and defensively but a great power double and vicious ground and pound. He won a UFC championship because of his size, freakish athletic ability and wrestling pedigree, he lost his UFC championship because of his terrible striking and having no plan B.