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Dude, way too long.

Saad I can tell you what I think in five words but if I'm going to tell you why I think what I think, it's going to take a lot more that to construct an argument.

Tanzio You're absolutely right of course but we haven't actually got the fight(s) yet.

candyslim wrote:Saad I can tell you what I think in five words but if I'm going to tell you why I think what I think, it's going to take a lot more that to construct an argument.

Tanzio You're absolutely right of course but we haven't actually got the fight(s) yet.

I don't know what you want to argue about. I don't dislike you, if my best friend says something I consider ridiculous I call him on it. You never should have left in the first place. Since your return you've had some bizarre and novel like offerings. Big deal.

When I say "construct an argument" I mean build a case to support the points I make. That's me ... long winded? yeah, I guess

How did you know the post was bizarre if you didn't read it? I prefer to think of it as creative and one two enjoyed it in the short time before it was consigned to the oblivion of the off-topic forum by a mod that either didn't understand it or couldn't be arsed to read it.

RScarf1 wrote:I would assume that the WBC said to Stiverne that we don't want to remove you from title contention, but because you missed a drug test, you are going to have to win a title eliminator in order to maintain your WBC ranking. Therefore, Stiverne would have to beat Breazeale.

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Breazeale must have the worst coaching in Boxing... He was a college quarterback and he's a damned good athlete... He's big, tall, tough, and coordinated, has a tremendous reach, and he can throw hard.. But he can't box worth a shiit.. WTF is going on with him? He's been a pro for 5 years.. At some point you get a stance and get a jab going -- and slip some punches on defense.. Joe Louis was very crude when he turned pro -- but 11 months later he looked like he'd been a professional for 10 years.. That's why I think Blackburn may have been the best boxing coach ever.

That's what a good trainer will do.. He won't let you go home...you've got to get the lesson right first.. But Louis had the desire -- until he got rich at least.. Breazeale has a lot of desire and heart, but he needs a coach.. If Stiverne were still the Heavyweight who smashed Arreola, he'd be in trouble.

It's true. I think with the universal disparaging of Stiverne for several months as a result of this seemingly unending saga of the Wilder re-match, and the absurdity of someone so inactive being the perennial mandatory, people (not leasr me) have a tendency to forget that not so long ago Stiverne was a pretty formidable proposition for anyone, and deserving of his first title-shot with Wilder.

If he were still that fighter I agree Breazeale would likely be struggling, it all depends what he has left. I know I keep mentioning his unconvincing climb-off-the-canvas win over the fair-to-middling Derric Rossy (a fight I haven't seen and not for want of trying) being his only fight in years, but there is nothing else to use as a form-guide. Such inactivity at the age of 38 doesn't fill me with confidence for him, and whatever you say about Breazeale, Stiverne is going to have his hands full and then some.