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Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 09:22
by lillywhite14
He's terrible. Froch adds nothing too. Awful pair who seem to do their best to spoil the action.
Ian Darke is in a different league entirely.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 09:52
by ewenhay
ElJefe wrote:Froch annoyed me more last night. He can't go through a competitive fight without scoring at least 1 10-10 round. And the pair of them pass of any potential bad scoring as "it's what you like", no it's fvcking not, it's one or the other. Just open your eyes, pay attention and you'll see who's winning.
Aye that phrase does my head in too. it's a subconscious admission that they are biased and have no confidence in how they score a fight.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 10:01
by SAPFO
When you listen to the Yanks, they go into so much more technical detail. You always feel with Sky commentators that they are trying to steer opinion. As the 12th was starting Froch said Burns had to do something in the last 6 mins. It's that Notts voice that grates me.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 10:32
by rossij8
Prefer Smith to Halling - people wanted him out also and he got the chop
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 10:39
by lillywhite14
SAPFO wrote:When you listen to the Yanks, they go into so much more technical detail. You always feel with Sky commentators that they are trying to steer opinion. As the 12th was starting Froch said Burns had to do something in the last 6 mins. It's that Notts voice that grates me.
Smith seems to lack the knowledge and spends half the fight growling about the event and trotting out tired cliches.
Froch is just lazy and has always been a little bland.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 11:02
by Andrew
I liked smith years ago but it's been awful coverage recently.
CarlFroch I liked him as a fighter but he is absolutely abysmal on TV. Scoring at least two 10-10 rounds.
In terms of boxings current landscape I know for a fact I know more than Froch does most of the forum do as well.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 11:16
by Counter-puncher
Froch never claimed to be a student of the game or great fan of boxing as a consumer, and it shows.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 12:50
by Vincent stevenson
Sky sports should do everything they can to poach k1 and thai boxing commentator vinny shoreman from allegedly. Vinny is well known and respected all over the world. And is the best commentator around by far in my opinion
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 14:51
by mickey1975
Vincent stevenson wrote:Sky sports should do everything they can to poach k1 and thai boxing commentator vinny shoreman from allegedly. Vinny is well known and respected all over the world. And is the best commentator around by far in my opinion
I know him, I'll have a word.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 15:13
by mickey1975
mickey1975 wrote:Vincent stevenson wrote:Sky sports should do everything they can to poach k1 and thai boxing commentator vinny shoreman from allegedly. Vinny is well known and respected all over the world. And is the best commentator around by far in my opinion
I know him, I'll have a word.
And Vinny is faultless on Muay Thai and K1, not so much boxing, although he is still pretty strong on it.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 15:48
by nobleart1978
Boxing on Sky is pants.
Adam Smith's knowledge of boxing starts in 1995.
Just like the footy lot who never mention anyone from before 1992. Shameful.
We have to suffer "sweet caroline" before every main event too which does my head in.
Like a nightclub with the boxing as an afterthought.
Total joke.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 15:50
by broomy7s
samwbr wrote:Does ed Robinson do any work there now?
Think he said on here that he's behind the scenes now on the production now.
On Smith, he's doing a decent job of improving the numbers on sky with the boxing so no need to get rid of him as head of boxing. As a commentator though, he's too much of a cheerleader. They really should spend a few quid and get Darke back who I don't think is very good at the footy on bt tbh. Sure he'd jump at the chance to do boxing again if it financially makes sense for him. I would also drop all the other co-commentators and have Macklin full time.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 16:07
by Nightmare Roy
Counter-puncher wrote:Froch never claimed to be a student of the game or great fan of boxing as a consumer, and it shows.
Surely they should have ex fighters who are really into the sport, not just eddies pals and guys who have earnt sky a few quid over the years doing commenty though.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 16:15
by levi billups
Froch had to give Crolla the last round in order to back up his claim that Crolla had clearly won - this despite his card showing one point between them going into the 12th, which was clearly Burns's round, and probably his best of the fight.
I thought Smith plumbed new depths last night with his commentary - in between growling about the 'jaaaaaaaaab' and 'whipping himself into shape', he was trying to goad Froch into badmouthing Groves, or coming back to the ring, which to his credit he declined on both occasions. Granted, commentary is clearly not an easy job to do well, but Smith is atrocious. Alex Steedman is an example of someone who does it pretty well these days - if I were Sky I would pinch him now Rawling has the whip hand at commentating for BT.
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 16:24
by Boxerbeetle
levi billups wrote:Froch had to give Crolla the last round in order to back up his claim that Crolla had clearly won - this despite his card showing one point between them going into the 12th, which was clearly Burns's round, and probably his best of the fight.
Didn’t Froch do a similar thing with his scorecard in the Fury-Klitschko fight?
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:16
by Matt Teague
Ian darke is hugely missed on any boxing show.
He’s a class act
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:20
by Coco
We have an identical thread almost every few months, it's rare that anyone has anything good to say about Smith.
It does make me wonder how he has kept the job so long, it's been over 20 years
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:21
by boxingknockout
Adam Smith is a genius. Who else could manage to find a similarly in EVERY fight to Barrera-Morales.....
He must have analysed the fights with a tooth comb
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:22
by boxingknockout
Coco wrote:We have an identical thread almost every few months, it's rare that anyone has anything good to say about Smith.
It does make me wonder how he has kept the job so long, it's been over 20 years
It’s all about the videotape he has in his possession....
**COUGH** I gotta return some video tapes
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 08 Oct 2017, 17:34
by MightyWarrior
Smith is THE WORST. tweet sky boxing & let them know
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 13:00
by TheGman
He hasnt got a clue about boxing,its all the "remember this fight from yester year" or the growl and the stupid constipated mr bean look on his face pisses me right off
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 15:08
by Stuarty
Oiky wrote:Listening to Adam Smith frys ya brain

It's kinda like hearing a massive wet fanny fart
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 15:39
by horndawg80
I agree Darke and Macklin
Even dictionary Ron Mc is half decent.
I'm up for tweeting sky boxing. I feel quite strongly about this.
No one wants to see his chipolata sucking lips on tv. Eddie are you reading???????????????
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 09 Oct 2017, 17:36
by boxingknockout
Re: Adam Smith, enough is enough
Posted: 10 Oct 2017, 07:04
by dbf
I think the whole sky sports boxing needs some freshening up - with a spring cleaning of talent. I think its pretty unnecessary to give all the ex boxers they do, so much time. Stick to just a few, the decent ones, and stop trying to create some clever (?) angle and help out all their mates.
The whole production seems either stuck in the early 2000's or desperately trying to imitate HBO or Showtime. I think its time from innovation, and perhaps some more simplicity. Less is more, especially in this case. Mike Costello should have been snapped up by sky years ago, he is the best active boxing commentator we have. Sky need to get over this perceived need to completely over dramatise their production. Costello has the perfect balance of excitement and knowledge, whilst knowing when to pause, plus he knows the sport very well.
BT are producing much better promo's than sky at the moment, and even Matchroom in house ones seem above what Sky do. Its so over polished, trying to hard and stuck in what "TV' used to be. Times have changed and in my opinion sky need to fix up.