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I must be the only person not on the joshua hype train

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Who says you have pretend it was Whittaker esq. it was a bad fight, Sport serves us dull contests sometimes. It opened up the heavyweight scene at least.

You exaggerate that it’s the worst fight you’ve seen like the wilder guys exaggerate he’s the worst champ. Be realistic

I'm not exaggerating at all. I've never seen worse. I desperately wanted fury to win so it kept my attention in that way, but I've never sat through a worse title bout, in any division, in 40 years. Tubbs/page was relieved on my list. You don't have to agree, but pretending it's an outlandish claim is absurd

It was a bad fight to watch I’m not disputing that, but it’s nit balanced to lay it all at the foot of Wlad being shite. Fury did what he needed to do for the decision win. It’s an achievement whichever way you look at it

Prentending otherwise is absurd

I've never said it was all due to wlad looking like shit. Not once. Wlad was always passive, fury took advantage of it. I've also never said it wasn't an achievement. To pretend I have is absurd.

Gilgamesh, I get it that you have a thing about Fury and that's fair enough. You're rewriting history though to suit your agenda.

Wa1nuts wrote:I must be the only person not on the joshua hype train

Nah there's a few others. There's always people that like to sh*t on whoever's #1 at the moment just because.

ewenhay wrote:Gilgamesh, I get it that you have a thing about Fury and that's fair enough. You're rewriting history though to suit your agenda.

I'm actually one of the only people that remembers that fight exactly as it was. You guys pretending that you watched Tyson Whitaker that night are the ones rewriting history.

Wa1nuts wrote:I must be the only person not on the joshua hype train

I'm not on the Joshua hype train either but it's such a weak era that it's difficult to argue against him being the best around for now.

gilgamesh wrote:

Wa1nuts wrote:I must be the only person not on the joshua hype train

Nah there's a few others. There's always people that like to sh*t on whoever's #1 at the moment just because.

I'm not that man.

I jus haven't seen anything overly impressive about him so far other than power. Struggled against Whyte at times who at the time was considered a massive underdog an only just beat chisora. Also struggled against an aging Wlad.

I suppose you can only beat who's put in front of you but I'm not on the train yet. If he'd have beaten wlad with ease it might have been a different story

gilgamesh wrote:

ewenhay wrote:Gilgamesh, I get it that you have a thing about Fury and that's fair enough. You're rewriting history though to suit your agenda.

I'm actually one of the only people that remembers that fight exactly as it was. You guys pretending that you watched Tyson Whitaker that night are the ones rewriting history.

Tyson Whitaker haha

gilgamesh wrote:

ewenhay wrote:Gilgamesh, I get it that you have a thing about Fury and that's fair enough. You're rewriting history though to suit your agenda.

I'm actually one of the only people that remembers that fight exactly as it was. You guys pretending that you watched Tyson Whitaker that night are the ones rewriting history.

Not at all. I don't think Fury is particularly good to be honest. But he nullified Wlad and made him scared to throw. whether that was partly because Wlad was wary because of all the antics or the fact that Fury was in shape and got his tactics right on the night doesn't really matter. He did a job on Wlad pure and simple. On that night. And for that he deserves credit in my view regardless of how he has behaved since.

Wa1nuts wrote:
I'm not that man.

I jus haven't seen anything overly impressive about him so far other than power. Struggled against Whyte at times who at the time was considered a massive underdog an only just beat chisora. Also struggled against an aging Wlad.

I suppose you can only beat who's put in front of you but I'm not on the train yet. If he'd have beaten wlad with ease it might have been a different story

I certainly don't think AJ is unbeatable, and I don't think he'd have so quickly risen to the top if not for the fact that the Heavyweight division is particularly weak at the moment, but hell it's been weak the entire time I've been a fan of the sport pretty much.

There's definitely guys that can potentially beat him. At Heavyweight upsets are always possible.

Nobody thought Corrie Sanders was gonna smoke Wlad in 2, Nobody thought Buster Douglas was gonna knock out Tyson. You can never tell in Heavyweight Boxing.

gilgamesh wrote:

Wa1nuts wrote:
I'm not that man.

I jus haven't seen anything overly impressive about him so far other than power. Struggled against Whyte at times who at the time was considered a massive underdog an only just beat chisora. Also struggled against an aging Wlad.

I suppose you can only beat who's put in front of you but I'm not on the train yet. If he'd have beaten wlad with ease it might have been a different story

I certainly don't think AJ is unbeatable, and I don't think he'd have so quickly risen to the top if not for the fact that the Heavyweight division is particularly weak at the moment, but hell it's been weak the entire time I've been a fan of the sport pretty much.

There's definitely guys that can potentially beat him. At Heavyweight upsets are always possible.

Nobody thought Corrie Sanders was gonna smoke Wlad in 2, Nobody thought Buster Douglas was gonna knock out Tyson. You can never tell in Heavyweight Boxing.

Yeah it's a shame theres not many decent heavyweights at world level. I look forward to see him fight Wilder if it ever happens. Realistically there's not many other fights for him that excite me. I've never paid to see him fight tbh I think he went ppv too early an now the British public will pay ppv to see him fight anybody

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I'm not exaggerating at all. I've never seen worse. I desperately wanted fury to win so it kept my attention in that way, but I've never sat through a worse title bout, in any division, in 40 years. Tubbs/page was relieved on my list. You don't have to agree, but pretending it's an outlandish claim is absurd

It was a bad fight to watch I’m not disputing that, but it’s nit balanced to lay it all at the foot of Wlad being shite. Fury did what he needed to do for the decision win. It’s an achievement whichever way you look at it

Prentending otherwise is absurd

I've never said it was all due to wlad looking like poo. Not once. Wlad was always passive, fury took advantage of it. I've also never said it wasn't an achievement. To pretend I have is absurd.

Ok some stuff is more general and not just you

1. The fight was a bad spectacle
2. To decision Wlad in Germany is achievement and takes a level of knowing what you’re doing
3. Because fury’s such an arse some people let it cloud the situation

That’s basically it imo

Absurd

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
It was a bad fight to watch I’m not disputing that, but it’s nit balanced to lay it all at the foot of Wlad being shite. Fury did what he needed to do for the decision win. It’s an achievement whichever way you look at it

Prentending otherwise is absurd

I've never said it was all due to wlad looking like poo. Not once. Wlad was always passive, fury took advantage of it. I've also never said it wasn't an achievement. To pretend I have is absurd.

Ok some stuff is more general and not just you

1. The fight was a bad spectacle
2. To decision Wlad in Germany is achievement and takes a level of knowing what you’re doing
3. Because fury’s such an arse some people let it cloud the situation

That’s basically it imo

Absurd

Aye, that pretty much sums it up

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
It was a bad fight to watch I’m not disputing that, but it’s nit balanced to lay it all at the foot of Wlad being shite. Fury did what he needed to do for the decision win. It’s an achievement whichever way you look at it

Prentending otherwise is absurd

I've never said it was all due to wlad looking like poo. Not once. Wlad was always passive, fury took advantage of it. I've also never said it wasn't an achievement. To pretend I have is absurd.

Ok some stuff is more general and not just you

1. The fight was a bad spectacle
2. To decision Wlad in Germany is achievement and takes a level of knowing what you’re doing
3. Because fury’s such an arse some people let it cloud the situation

That’s basically it imo

Absurd

Only #1 applies to me. Better to just make a general post than to quote someone if it doesn't apply to them. Absurd.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: I've never said it was all due to wlad looking like poo. Not once. Wlad was always passive, fury took advantage of it. I've also never said it wasn't an achievement. To pretend I have is absurd.

Ok some stuff is more general and not just you

1. The fight was a bad spectacle
2. To decision Wlad in Germany is achievement and takes a level of knowing what you’re doing
3. Because fury’s such an arse some people let it cloud the situation

That’s basically it imo

Absurd

Only #1 applies to me. Better to just make a general post than to quote someone if it doesn't apply to them. Absurd.

Some applied to you which you badly needed to hear. We needed to sort this mess out

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Ok some stuff is more general and not just you

1. The fight was a bad spectacle
2. To decision Wlad in Germany is achievement and takes a level of knowing what you’re doing
3. Because fury’s such an arse some people let it cloud the situation

That’s basically it imo

Absurd

Only #1 applies to me. Better to just make a general post than to quote someone if it doesn't apply to them. Absurd.

Some applied to you which you badly needed to hear. We needed to sort this mess out

Only #1 applies to me and you agree with it. Although I'm definitely open to see a quote where I've violated your other 'rules'. LOL, I've said the exact opposite in this very thread. I like Fury and give him credit on his resume for winning that putrid fight. Gil is the one you should have been quoting. So, we'll just agree that you were wrong and move on.

Top ... shape ...?

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Only #1 applies to me. Better to just make a general post than to quote someone if it doesn't apply to them. Absurd.

Some applied to you which you badly needed to hear. We needed to sort this mess out

Only #1 applies to me and you agree with it. Although I'm definitely open to see a quote where I've violated your other 'rules'. LOL, I've said the exact opposite in this very thread. I like Fury and give him credit on his resume for winning that putrid fight. Gil is the one you should have been quoting. So, we'll just agree that you were wrong and move on.

When you respond to me saying about the lack of credit and you not having to pretend it’s whittaker esq gave the impression of slating him basically. No drama

Do people realize how mentally ill and unstable Fury really is? Eddie Hearn and AJ keep injecting Fury into the narrative because they know how easy a fight that would be and they just want to take advantage of the gate that the fight would generate at Fury's expense. Fury should be hospitalized and examined by some doctors and his tweets and soundbites should be ignored. The guy went nuts...plain and simple. He's never coming back to the sport of boxing. Has anyone seen how fat Fury is right now. Sure he can lose weight but you can't hit the gym and lose crazy. Crazy is for life.

Wa1nuts wrote:I must be the only person not on the joshua hype train

The Showtime announcers made a great comment about the AJ hype. The reason that so many people are gravitating to him and his fights is not because we all think that he's going to be the greatest or anything. His inexperience make his fights fun because he's still learning on the job and showing tremendous heart and could be taken out at any point with a shot so anything is possible in his fights.

Those idiots calling AJ the greatest heavyweight champion of all time know nothing about boxing. The guy is going to get better and better and may end up being a great but right now, he's just finding his way through these fights and it's a blast to watch.

Ossyrules wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Ossyrules wrote:
Some applied to you which you badly needed to hear. We needed to sort this mess out

Only #1 applies to me and you agree with it. Although I'm definitely open to see a quote where I've violated your other 'rules'. LOL, I've said the exact opposite in this very thread. I like Fury and give him credit on his resume for winning that putrid fight. Gil is the one you should have been quoting. So, we'll just agree that you were wrong and move on.

When you respond to me saying about the lack of credit and you not having to pretend it’s whittaker esq gave the impression of slating him basically. No drama

No, that's slating the fans that talk about him so blindly. I'm surprised you took more from that than when I said as far as his resume it's a big deal.

apollo creed wrote:I think Fury is gonna come back only for that big payday against Joshua. He could prove us wrong if he beats one or two top fighters. The ideal scenario would be to first have one or two warm up fights to shake off that ring rust then fight a guy like Ortiz or Povetkin then go for Wilder or Parker. If he beats these guys then fight Joshua. Anyway the more likely scenario would be: a bum then Whyte, then AJ.

Yeah I doubt Fury still has desire to be in Top shape either.

Or even mediocre shape.



You should watch Sumo Wrestling if big fat f*cks are your idea of an athlete.

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:I think Fury is gonna come back only for that big payday against Joshua. He could prove us wrong if he beats one or two top fighters. The ideal scenario would be to first have one or two warm up fights to shake off that ring rust then fight a guy like Ortiz or Povetkin then go for Wilder or Parker. If he beats these guys then fight Joshua. Anyway the more likely scenario would be: a bum then Whyte, then AJ.

Yeah I doubt Fury still has desire to be in Top shape either.

Or even mediocre shape.



You should watch Sumo Wrestling if big fat f*cks are your idea of an athlete.

Lol, you just can't help yourself. The guy was just stating his opinion.

ewenhay wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:


You should watch Sumo Wrestling if big fat f*cks are your idea of an athlete.

Lol, you just can't help yourself. The guy was just stating his opinion.

It truly sickens me for Tyson Fury to be thought of as some sort of "Great" or even "Good" Heavyweight. He's a bum, and deserves virtually no respect from Boxing fans. He's a disgrace to this sport.

ewenhay wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

apollo creed wrote:I think Fury is gonna come back only for that big payday against Joshua. He could prove us wrong if he beats one or two top fighters. The ideal scenario would be to first have one or two warm up fights to shake off that ring rust then fight a guy like Ortiz or Povetkin then go for Wilder or Parker. If he beats these guys then fight Joshua. Anyway the more likely scenario would be: a bum then Whyte, then AJ.

Yeah I doubt Fury still has desire to be in Top shape either.

Or even mediocre shape.



You should watch Sumo Wrestling if big fat f*cks are your idea of an athlete.

Lol, you just can't help yourself. The guy was just stating his opinion.

So more or less Fury is done. Can't see him losing that weight and train hard for a fight.