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See...I don't even get that. As verified of a Fury hater as I am I don't see how you could say his fight with Wladimir was close. Wladimir did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in that fight.

Fury won at least 118-110. He was barely fighting the whole time. Wlad wasn't fighting at all.

gilgamesh wrote:And by the way before everybody gets all over my case for sh*tting on Tyson Fury yet again. I'd quit sh*tting on the guy if you guys would quit bringing this bum up. I never bring him up because I don't he's worth talking about. If you guys bring him up and tell me he's great or even good I feel the need to point out to you that he's sh*t.

Since apparently you Fury fans have eyes that tell you something other than facts.

I feel like it's groundhog day with you, me and Saad on these weird Fury/Joshua prediction threads with this collection of oddballs continually predicting a Fury win. I can't remember the last time so many people got it so wrong.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:And by the way before everybody gets all over my case for sh*tting on Tyson Fury yet again. I'd quit sh*tting on the guy if you guys would quit bringing this bum up. I never bring him up because I don't he's worth talking about. If you guys bring him up and tell me he's great or even good I feel the need to point out to you that he's sh*t.

Since apparently you Fury fans have eyes that tell you something other than facts.

I feel like it's groundhog day with you, me and Saad on these weird Fury/Joshua prediction threads with this collection of oddballs continually predicting a Fury win. I can't remember the last time so many people got it so wrong.

It'd at least make a LITTLE bit of sense if Fury was the only British Heavyweight hopeful in the world, but when they have a far superior talent in Anthony Joshua I don't know why people even wanna waste their time talking about this clown.

Riddick Blowe wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:And by the way before everybody gets all over my case for sh*tting on Tyson Fury yet again. I'd quit sh*tting on the guy if you guys would quit bringing this bum up. I never bring him up because I don't he's worth talking about. If you guys bring him up and tell me he's great or even good I feel the need to point out to you that he's sh*t.

Since apparently you Fury fans have eyes that tell you something other than facts.

I feel like it's groundhog day with you, me and Saad on these weird Fury/Joshua prediction threads with this collection of oddballs continually predicting a Fury win. I can't remember the last time so many people got it so wrong.

fornicate the win, these motherfuckers have Fury fighting AJ using the Ali shuffle while he glides around the magic carpet that is his ring. Juking, shucking, jiving, dealing out the pain!!!!!!!!!

I'd love to see him put his hands behind his back and stick his chin out against a 48 year old Holyfield, much less AJ, and see him get splattered.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

Riddick Blowe wrote:
eff the win, these motherfuckers have Fury fighting AJ using the Ali shuffle while he glides around the magic carpet that is his ring. Juking, shucking, jiving, dealing out the pain!!!!!!!!!

I'd love to see him put his hands behind his back and stick his chin out against a 48 year old Holyfield, much less AJ, and see him get splattered.

His abilities are definitely horribly exaggerated. Kinda reminds you of how badass Zab COULD'VE been if only he'd been focused...or how badass Edwin Valero COULD'VE been if only he hadn't killed himself...

Fans and Boosters of all 3 are wrong continually, but the Fury delusion takes the cake... then sprinkles some cocaine on it...then eats the cake.

I know that people's opinions on Fury vs. Klitschko vary widely. I think if Fury does come back, his title shot should not initially be against Joshua. I would recommend Joseph Parker which would still be lucrative. That is a much more winnable fight for Fury than Joshua.

RScarf1 wrote:I know that people's opinions on Fury vs. Klitschko vary widely. I think if Fury does come back, his title shot should not initially be against Joshua. I would recommend Joseph Parker which would still be lucrative. That is a much more winnable fight for Fury than Joshua.

Would Fury/Parker be that lucrative? I guess if they fought in NZ. Fury couldn't even sell tickets for the Wlad rematch.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I know that people's opinions on Fury vs. Klitschko vary widely. I think if Fury does come back, his title shot should not initially be against Joshua. I would recommend Joseph Parker which would still be lucrative. That is a much more winnable fight for Fury than Joshua.

Would Fury/Parker be that lucrative? I guess if they fought in NZ. Fury couldn't even sell tickets for the Wlad rematch.

How did Parker vs Hughie Fury do ticket sale wise?

gilgamesh wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I know that people's opinions on Fury vs. Klitschko vary widely. I think if Fury does come back, his title shot should not initially be against Joshua. I would recommend Joseph Parker which would still be lucrative. That is a much more winnable fight for Fury than Joshua.

Would Fury/Parker be that lucrative? I guess if they fought in NZ. Fury couldn't even sell tickets for the Wlad rematch.

How did Parker vs Hughie Fury do ticket sale wise?

I don't know the exact figure, but badly. It was a shambolic promotion.

I think Fury vs. Parker would make money in the UK or NZ. Fury looks as big as a house though. Maybe he would be motivated if he knew he could fight Parker.

It would be very hard for Fury to get back in that fighting shape. That dude loves partying, eating, drinking and snorting. LOL

RScarf1 wrote:I think Fury vs. Parker would make money in the UK or NZ. Fury looks as big as a house though. Maybe he would be motivated if he knew he could fight Parker.

Turning a profit and being lucrative aren't exactly the same thing.

gilgamesh wrote:AJ or Wilder would knock out Fury. Both the fatass version that currently walks the Earth, or the "Prime" version that won a staring contest with Wladimir.

Tyson Fury knows what a bum he is that's why he dove into a Smörgåsbord of Cocaine because he knows he would only be that lucky in a World Title fight once. Any other Heavyweight including Wlad in a rematch would actually throw punches at him.

Totally agree.

I'm still not sure why Klitschko fought so badly that night. There were rumours of personal issues and perhaps Fury got to him with mind games somehow in the build up. Wladimir was simply paralysed on fight night whilst Fury fought the fight of his life and won in the only way he could. Yes he moves well and has fast hands but the only person Fury might knock out would be himself.

In David Haye's words, he robbed the bank that night and had no wish to risk it twice. His fear of fighting Wladimir again was pathological.

Barry Hearn must do all he can to entice him to get into the ring against AJ. There is no better risk / reward fight out there for AJ.

Thomastearns wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:AJ or Wilder would knock out Fury. Both the fatass version that currently walks the Earth, or the "Prime" version that won a staring contest with Wladimir.

Tyson Fury knows what a bum he is that's why he dove into a Smörgåsbord of Cocaine because he knows he would only be that lucky in a World Title fight once. Any other Heavyweight including Wlad in a rematch would actually throw punches at him.

Totally agree.

I'm still not sure why Klitschko fought so badly that night. There were rumours of personal issues and perhaps Fury got to him with mind games somehow in the build up. Wladimir was simply paralysed on fight night whilst Fury fought the fight of his life and won in the only way he could. Yes he moves well and has fast hands but the only person Fury might knock out would be himself.

In David Haye's words, he robbed the bank that night and had no wish to risk it twice. His fear of fighting Wladimir again was pathological.

Barry Hearn must do all he can to entice him to get into the ring against AJ. There is no better risk / reward fight out there for AJ.

NO! The truth is Fury was toying that one-dimensional-jab-jab-right hand and grab robotic Wladimir K. in his backyard! Fury was the bigger and better fighter that night. He pretty much exposed Wlad!

The mind games of Fury definitely affected Klitschko and Klitschko admitted this. Also, Klitschko was affected by his trainer Emanuel Steward passing away. That's a good analogy by Haye that Fury robbed the bank and he wasn't going to be able to do that twice.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I think Fury vs. Parker would make money in the UK or NZ. Fury looks as big as a house though. Maybe he would be motivated if he knew he could fight Parker.

Turning a profit and being lucrative aren't exactly the same thing.

I know that it would not make as much money as Fury vs. Joshua, but Fury vs. Parker would still be lucrative if Fury is in shape. The comeback of Fury alone would get the attention of fans and media.

If fury wants it he can come get it. The monies there, the fans want it, Joshua would have it, what’s stopping the fight!?

Fury.

The only slight pass I give him is it seems a horrendously long time it’s taken the bboc and UKAD to sort his situation out

RScarf1 wrote:The mind games of Fury definitely affected Klitschko and Klitschko admitted this. Also, Klitschko was affected by his trainer Emanuel Steward passing away. That's a good analogy by Haye that Fury robbed the bank and he wasn't going to be able to do that twice.

His trainer had passed away well before the Fury fight.

gilgamesh wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:The mind games of Fury definitely affected Klitschko and Klitschko admitted this. Also, Klitschko was affected by his trainer Emanuel Steward passing away. That's a good analogy by Haye that Fury robbed the bank and he wasn't going to be able to do that twice.

His trainer had passed away well before the Fury fight.

I know, but it still affected his boxing. His strategy would have been better with Steward.

RScarf1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:

RScarf1 wrote:I think Fury vs. Parker would make money in the UK or NZ. Fury looks as big as a house though. Maybe he would be motivated if he knew he could fight Parker.

Turning a profit and being lucrative aren't exactly the same thing.

I know that it would not make as much money as Fury vs. Joshua, but Fury vs. Parker would still be lucrative if Fury is in shape. The comeback of Fury alone would get the attention of fans and media.

How lucrative? Fury wasn't selling big for the Wlad rematch, signing the fight is no guarantee he'll be in shape or show up. That will affect his sales against anybody. He also might lose to Parker which wouldn't boost AJ/Parker significantly. I don't think Fury is in a significant fight again, but if he does come back the most money to be made is straight into a Joshua fight. A string of tune ups before Joshua would be wiser than fighting Parker.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:How lucrative? Fury wasn't selling big for the Wlad rematch, signing the fight is no guarantee he'll be in shape or show up. That will affect his sales against anybody. He also might lose to Parker which wouldn't boost AJ/Parker significantly. I don't think Fury is in a significant fight again, but if he does come back the most money to be made is straight into a Joshua fight. A string of tune ups before Joshua would be wiser than fighting Parker.

If Fury defeats Parker, he will have a belt which will make a fight with Joshua more lucrative. There is also the revenge angle because of Hughie Fury's loss to Parker, so Fury vs. Parker would do well financially. If Tyson Fury defeats Parker, then a unification fight can be done with Joshua. That is the route I would go, but this is all moot unless Fury gets his fat ass in shape.

Ok, I don't see it. The revenge of a fight that nobody watched? Fury/Haye would crush a Parker fight. Haye is an a side. Fury vs Parker is two C's.

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ok, I don't see it. The revenge of a fight that nobody watched? Fury/Haye would crush a Parker fight. Haye is an a side. Fury vs Parker is two C's.

If Haye loses to Bellew again, he will not be an A side. If Haye beats Bellew, then maybe he will fight Joshua. People did not want to see Hughie Fury because he is not a world-class boxer.

RScarf1 wrote:

SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Ok, I don't see it. The revenge of a fight that nobody watched? Fury/Haye would crush a Parker fight. Haye is an a side. Fury vs Parker is two C's.

If Haye loses to Bellew again, he will not be an A side. If Haye beats Bellew, then maybe he will fight Joshua. People did not want to see Hughie Fury because he is not a world-class boxer.

If bellew wins again he'd be a much bigger fight than Parker.

gilgamesh wrote:

ewenhay wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:
Tyson Fury is a bum, he wouldn't have won the Heavyweight Title on any other night of his career. Wlad just stood there staring at him. It wasn't some amazing accomplishment. It was the worst Heavyweight Title fight of all time, and Tyson Fury is the worst Heavyweight Champion of all time. He didn't even have the balls to defend against the man he put on a "masterclass" against. What's that tell you? It tells you he knows he's the luckiest guy in the world, and would never have been able to beat Wlad a 2nd time.

You're an embarrassment.

I tell it like it is. People don't like the truth sometimes. Especially when they commit themselves to a lie.

I find it odd and amusing how good judges are often blinded by an emotional reaction to fighters they have taken against. Tyson Fury was never a poor fighter. I don't think he has great technique in the purest sense, I mean if he were 6' 3" he would be nowhere near as effective, but at 6' 8" and knowing how best to utilize that advantage (which not all tall fighters do) allied to excellent mobility and good stamina makes (or made) him a difficult opponent for anyone. It was no accident that Wlad looked so poor in that fight, he just didn't know how to cope with being the shorter man and trying to land on someone so unorthodox, who was never there to be hit. It was a poor spectacle but Fury succeeded in having Wlad totally bamboozled. Whether or not he could have adapted and coped better in the rematch is a moot point. As for Fury not having the balls, you have heard of mental illness, yes? He wasn't scared of Wlad before he beat him, why would you imagine he'd be scared of him after he proved he could beat him?

Tyson can be hurt and the memory of him being floored by Cunningham doesn't fill me with confidence that Wilder or Joshua wouldn't at some point nail him, but to write him off as sh*t and give him no chance is plain silly in my opinion.