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Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 10:49
by Enlightened-One
Ilya Muromets wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 10:36 I do. I thought it was some bad acting too. They were good enough to embarrass him in his comeback. There were some youtubes that analyzed the dives in detail.
Arnold Gjergjaj and Mark De Mori were never good enough to “embarrass” David Haye. Neither man has never achieved anything throughout the course of their careers to support your claim.

You’re making things up! I’m beginning to think you’re a troll. Your opinions seem far too extreme and utterly bizarre in nature to be sincere.

Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 11:06
by Ilya Muromets
Enlightened-One wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 10:49 Arnold Gjergjaj and Mark De Mori were never good enough to “embarrass” David Haye. Neither man has never achieved anything throughout the course of their careers to support your claim.

You’re making things up! I’m beginning to think you’re a troll. Your opinions seem far too extreme and utterly bizarre in nature to be sincere.

You're the one who sounds like a troll.

Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 11:06
by imaioral
Let's suppose a good amateur fighter with lots of $$ can fight every 2 weeks in regular, regional events in their countries and even in some international events. Fighting since 14 years of age, until turning pro at around 24, this person would have fought around 260 fights (in this 10 years experience), in 15 years would have been 390 fights (and would have turned pro with 29 years of age if started with 14). So possibly everyone who says who fought over 10 to 15 years of amateur with more than 260 or 390 bouts, it's a liar.

Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 12:44
by boxing_rocks
imaioral wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 11:06 Let's suppose a good amateur fighter with lots of $$ can fight every 2 weeks in regular, regional events in their countries and even in some international events. Fighting since 14 years of age, until turning pro at around 24, this person would have fought around 260 fights (in this 10 years experience), in 15 years would have been 390 fights (and would have turned pro with 29 years of age if started with 14). So possibly everyone who says who fought over 10 to 15 years of amateur with more than 260 or 390 bouts, it's a liar.
Do you know that in amateurs, they have tournaments, not individual fights? In youth tournaments, there are multiple fights per day. So, a good fighter can easily have 4-5 fights a month.

Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 13:54
by imaioral
boxing_rocks wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 12:44 Do you know that in amateurs, they have tournaments, not individual fights? In youth tournaments, there are multiple fights per day. So, a good fighter can easily have 4-5 fights a month.
But these tournaments (in my country I follow them) don't occur every month, and depending on the level of the tournament (major ones) they are a very few times a year, minor ones are 4 to 8 times per year with mostly 1 or 2 fights on each of them. In general, it equally results as a very few fights per month, so I still have a point.

Re: Rigondeaux´s and Lomachenko´s fake amateur records

Posted: 08 Apr 2019, 14:42
by KiwiRider
imaioral wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 13:54 But these tournaments (in my country I follow them) don't occur every month, and depending on the level of the tournament (major ones) they are a very few times a year, minor ones are 4 to 8 times per year with mostly 1 or 2 fights on each of them. In general, it equally results as a very few fights per month, so I still have a point.
What about inter-club tournaments?
We had those probably twice a month. Low key weekend stuff in between proper tournament fixtures. It was more of a practice thing. See, I never counted that in my Am record because I can't remember them all. Maybe Loma's dad took notes :maybe:
Not even my dear old supportive mum turned up for inter-club fights. It was bad enough for her to watch me get bashed up in tournaments :lol: