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Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 06:39
by banjo
How many murderous bangers did Eubank Sr really face though to know how good his chin really was, sure he took some licks from Benn and Thompson, but how would he have done against someone like McClellan, Jackson or even Hearns who was still a good fighter in the early 90's?
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 06:49
by Counter-puncher
banjo wrote: ↑14 Feb 2018, 06:39
How many murderous bangers did Eubank Sr really face though to know how good his chin really was, sure he took some licks from Benn and Thompson, but how would he have done against someone like McClellan, Jackson or even Hearns who was still a good fighter in the early 90's?
i'd say what he absorbed from Benn in the first fight alone proves his chin was very solid
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 14 Feb 2018, 06:59
by Spiker
Plus CEJ has not had his chin tested yet, Groves punches harder than BJS so answers could be coming.
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:04
by Finn
I don’t know about it being because of his dad. But froch has said he’s hit Jr with some big shots in sparring and his chin is solid.
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:07
by danconnollyeire
dookus wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 16:14
deadpan wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 14:14
The genetics logic certainly doesn't include Wlad and Vitali.
Why not? They're not genetically identical. They most likely inherited differing degrees of punch resistance. Unless Vitaly has found some magic exercise that makes your chin stronger and then hid it from Wladimir.
Funnily, there are exercises you can do to make your punch resistance better. I read an article once that said strengthening your neck muscles can help absorb the impact of a shot, although obviously not entirely. Used Holyfield as an examples. I can see the logic there to some degree
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:10
by danconnollyeire
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 14:50
jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 14:47
whats his moms chin like. genetics arent just all about daddys.
If Mayweather’s kids ever ask a similar question, Floyd can actually answer it
Not a fair test. Mayweather's punching power has decreased a lot
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 10:15
by Espada
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 14:50
jamamb wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 14:47
whats his moms chin like. genetics arent just all about daddys.
If Mayweather’s kids ever ask a similar question, Floyd can actually answer it
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 11:12
by SteveDow
Finn wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 10:04
I don’t know about it being because of his dad. But froch has said he’s hit Jr with some big shots in sparring and his chin is solid.
That was in sparring though with 16oz gloves on and Jnr was wearing a headguard so it's not a proper barometer. Froch also said that Groves punches very very hard (as we saw in their first fight).
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 11:56
by gilgamesh
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 13:03
OK, apparently it's been claimed on here "3 or 4 times" in the last few weeks that Jnr's chin is good because his dads was/is.
Who said this
Own up.
Worked out good for Marvis Frazier....oh wait
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 12:01
by Taansend
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 11:56
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 13:03
OK, apparently it's been claimed on here "3 or 4 times" in the last few weeks that Jnr's chin is good because his dads was/is.
Who said this
Own up.
Worked out good for Marvis Frazier....oh wait
Didn't Joe Frazier go down six or seven times against Foreman
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 12:06
by gilgamesh
Taansend wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 12:01
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 11:56
Taansend wrote: ↑13 Feb 2018, 13:03
OK, apparently it's been claimed on here "3 or 4 times" in the last few weeks that Jnr's chin is good because his dads was/is.
Who said this
Own up.
Worked out good for Marvis Frazier....oh wait
Didn't Joe Frazier go down six or seven times against Foreman
Yeah, but that's Foreman. Nobody else ever knocked Joe Frazier out, and Foreman could drop a horse. He was stopped in the 3rd Ali fight, but that was more about the fact that his eyes were so swollen that his cornermen knew he couldn't see and knew it was time to pull the plug. Ali never dropped him in any of their fights as I recall.
I don't believe he was ever knocked down other than Foreman except for the 1st Oscar Bonavena fight.
Marvis got stopped in 1 by both Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson.
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 12:27
by BitPlayer
You actually can put muscles on your chin ( sort of). Neck strengthening has been shown to reduce concussion risk. But a lot of it is punch anticipation, and having good instincts when you do get caught so you Don't take more.
There's too many counter examples to having the same chin as your dad.
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 12:35
by Taansend
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 12:06
Taansend wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 12:01
gilgamesh wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 11:56
Worked out good for Marvis Frazier....oh wait
Didn't Joe Frazier go down six or seven times against Foreman
Yeah, but that's Foreman. Nobody else ever knocked Joe Frazier out, and Foreman could drop a horse. He was stopped in the 3rd Ali fight, but that was more about the fact that his eyes were so swollen that his cornermen knew he couldn't see and knew it was time to pull the plug. Ali never dropped him in any of their fights as I recall.
I don't believe he was ever knocked down other than Foreman except for the 1st Oscar Bonavena fight.
Marvis got stopped in 1 by both Larry Holmes and Mike Tyson.
I'm not defending the "Fathers Chin" theory.
But examples the other way always have holes in them too.
Re: Eubank Has A Good Chin Because His Dad Does.
Posted: 15 Feb 2018, 12:39
by gilgamesh
BitPlayer wrote: ↑15 Feb 2018, 12:27
You actually can put muscles on your chin ( sort of). Neck strengthening has been shown to reduce concussion risk. But a lot of it is punch anticipation, and having good instincts when you do get caught so you Don't take more.
There's too many counter examples to having the same chin as your dad.
Another thing is supposedly Jack Dempsey always chewed bubble gum like EVERY day for lots of hours to strengthen his jaw muscles.
Not sure how effective that's supposed to be, but Dempsey took a shot alright.