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Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 15:19
by gilgamesh
Always a bad sign when a guy is already talking about his next fight when he's got a fight coming up. I've seen many fighters upset when they're looking ahead instead of looking at what's right in front of 'em.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 15:22
by jamamb
i mean if miller beats duhaupas hell have within the last 9 months washington, wach, and duhaupas, and he beat the first two handily. how many hws have as strong as recent resume? and i mean aj has already beaten the best opposition of any active hw anyway.
just doesnt seem like a fight to lose your respect for aj over. within the last year only ajs scored a win better than miller id say.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 16:22
by Ilya Muromets
Also remember Duhaupas is the guy who stopped previously unbeaten Helenius' comeback, in his hometown too, same as this one will be in Miller's...and Duhaupas is planning for the future too. According to BoxRec he's got 3 tba's planned in quick succession after he presumably beats Miller. I thought very highly of Miller before the Wach fight, but his stock went down in that one. So who wants to give me 6-1 odds? I'm betting on Du. I don't want to deal with bookies.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 16:37
by jamamb
miller lost maybe 2 rounds combined vs washington and wach and those were both slow feeling out rounds. he should beat duhaupas without much bother.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 16:39
by jamamb
btw duhaupas is some globe trekker aint he. fights in 12 countries and 13 if the spain fights happen
france, japan, netherlands, panama, usa, poland, finland, russia, algeria, germany, monaco, switzerland, and maybe spain soon
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 16:45
by dagilechia
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:22
Also remember Duhaupas is the guy who stopped previously unbeaten Helenius' comeback, in his hometown too, same as this one will be in Miller's...and Duhaupas is planning for the future too. According to BoxRec he's got 3 tba's planned in quick succession after he presumably beats Miller. I thought very highly of Miller before the Wach fight, but his stock went down in that one. So who wants to give me 6-1 odds? I'm betting on Du. I don't want to deal with bookies.
i could because i am pretty sure that Miller wins. btw i thought that Duhaupas is bigger and taller, but he is not, i thought he can outjab Miller but i think the Frenchman loses by late KO
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 17:02
by dagilechia
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 14:38
I like Miller but Wach was badly out of shape and I think he may have KO'd Miller if he didn't hurt his hand at the beginning because the big baby looked wide open for Wach's normally crushing right. Why didn't Wach train properly? Is he retiring?
Duhaupas took the fight against Wilder at the last minute and didn't have much time to train for it and also suffered from some injury and still put up a good fight. Don't make post-Duhaupas plans for Miller yet. The bookies have Miller a 6-1 favorite over Duhaupas. One will get me six? I'll take that bet.
Wach said he was training properly, just wanted to came in heavier against as heavy opponent as Miller is. and before injuring he injuried his hand this fight was very even and winnable for Wach. Wach is going to fight at Warsaw national stadium in may at a big event (with a freak fight though) on which fighters gonna be announced by Michael Buffer. btw it is a shame that Micheal Buffer is going to announce fight between these guys
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/78037 vs
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/42799 (he is also a promoter of this event) sounds like a joke but it's true
promotor of this event said that names possible to fight Wach on this event are Jennings, Chisora, Kudryashov and Helenius. he once mentioned even Tyson Fury

.also Izu Ugonoh fights on this event but rejected to fight Wach
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 21:53
by Ilya Muromets
dagilechia wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:45
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:22
Also remember Duhaupas is the guy who stopped previously unbeaten Helenius' comeback, in his hometown too, same as this one will be in Miller's...and Duhaupas is planning for the future too. According to BoxRec he's got 3 tba's planned in quick succession after he presumably beats Miller. I thought very highly of Miller before the Wach fight, but his stock went down in that one. So who wants to give me 6-1 odds? I'm betting on Du. I don't want to deal with bookies.
i could because i am pretty sure that Miller wins.
btw i thought that Duhaupas is bigger and taller, but he is not, i thought he can outjab Miller but i think the Frenchman loses by late KO
Duhaupas is 6'5" and fighting at around 250 lately. That's pretty big in anybody's language.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 22:10
by Ilya Muromets
dagilechia wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 17:02
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 14:38
I like Miller but Wach was badly out of shape and I think he may have KO'd Miller if he didn't hurt his hand at the beginning because the big baby looked wide open for Wach's normally crushing right. Why didn't Wach train properly? Is he retiring?
Duhaupas took the fight against Wilder at the last minute and didn't have much time to train for it and also suffered from some injury and still put up a good fight. Don't make post-Duhaupas plans for Miller yet. The bookies have Miller a 6-1 favorite over Duhaupas. One will get me six? I'll take that bet.
Wach said he was training properly, just wanted to came in heavier against as heavy opponent as Miller is. and before injuring he injuried his hand this fight was very even and winnable for Wach. Wach is going to fight at Warsaw national stadium in may at a big event (with a freak fight though) on which fighters gonna be announced by Michael Buffer. btw it is a shame that Micheal Buffer is going to announce fight between these guys
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/78037 vs
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/42799 (he is also a promoter of this event) sounds like a joke but it's true
promotor of this event said that names possible to fight Wach on this event are Jennings, Chisora, Kudryashov and Helenius. he once mentioned even Tyson Fury

.also Izu Ugonoh fights on this event but rejected to fight Wach
At least Wach's hand wasn't seriously injured then. That's what finished me and lots of others, hand injury.
Kudryashow? Is he moving to heavyweight? He could, but my pet peeve, there's no fair place in boxing for guys just over 200. Wach would outweigh him by about 60 pounds. Boxing badly needs a superheavyweight division. That would be some slugfest though.
And I was wondering what's up with Helenius. And I forgot about Jennings. He's won three mediocre quick KO's in a row since getting KO'd by K. Kong.
Tyson Fury isn't ready yet. I wonder how his comeback will be. Helenius has demonstrated how hard it is to get back into top form in this sport after being absent for a long time, even tho he trained very hard and stayed in good shape.
Wach's body in the Miller fight rather belied his training assertion. he looked "soft around the middle", as whatshisname said in "Fat City" (a very good boxing movie!).
Thanks for the info on the May event in Poland. I didn't know about it. Michael Buffer huh? As long as it's not that announcer with the long afro pigtails. Who is taht one? His hairdo gives me the heeby jeebies.
Miller-Duhaupas. I think it could go either way. I think 6-1 odds are way out of line and a very good bet on the underdog, Duhaupas.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 22:48
by jamamb
3 tbas for duhaupas seems more like looking ahead after a loss, if he beats miller i doubt he does that tba schedule, probably something bigger
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 21 Feb 2018, 23:32
by Ilya Muromets
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 22:48
3 tbas for duhaupas seems more like looking ahead after a loss, if he beats miller i doubt he does that tba schedule, probably something bigger
Good point. Either way the 3 tba's are strange. If he wins he'd be in the big time and looking for a big money fight as you said, and if he loses badly, or if it turns out to be a very tough fight win or lose, he'd want time to recuperate. That's more the sort of thing an up and coming new fighter would do to get experience and build a resume, like the Klitschkos who were fighting every couple of weeks at the beginning of their careers.
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 01:43
by jamamb
duhaupases career has been a bit quirky with him showing up seemingly in every corner of the world to fight. i notice he hasnt been toaus ornz yet though, but maybe he can be a parker comeback opponent
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 04:47
by dagilechia
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 21:53
dagilechia wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:45
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:22
Also remember Duhaupas is the guy who stopped previously unbeaten Helenius' comeback, in his hometown too, same as this one will be in Miller's...and Duhaupas is planning for the future too. According to BoxRec he's got 3 tba's planned in quick succession after he presumably beats Miller. I thought very highly of Miller before the Wach fight, but his stock went down in that one. So who wants to give me 6-1 odds? I'm betting on Du. I don't want to deal with bookies.
i could because i am pretty sure that Miller wins.
btw i thought that Duhaupas is bigger and taller, but he is not, i thought he can outjab Miller but i think the Frenchman loses by late KO
Duhaupas is 6'5" and fighting at around 250 lately. That's pretty big in anybody's language.
of course he is big but i just expected that he will look almost like Wach next to Miller
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 04:53
by dagilechia
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 22:10
dagilechia wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 17:02
x2x wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 14:38
I like Miller but Wach was badly out of shape and I think he may have KO'd Miller if he didn't hurt his hand at the beginning because the big baby looked wide open for Wach's normally crushing right. Why didn't Wach train properly? Is he retiring?
Duhaupas took the fight against Wilder at the last minute and didn't have much time to train for it and also suffered from some injury and still put up a good fight. Don't make post-Duhaupas plans for Miller yet. The bookies have Miller a 6-1 favorite over Duhaupas. One will get me six? I'll take that bet.
Wach said he was training properly, just wanted to came in heavier against as heavy opponent as Miller is. and before injuring he injuried his hand this fight was very even and winnable for Wach. Wach is going to fight at Warsaw national stadium in may at a big event (with a freak fight though) on which fighters gonna be announced by Michael Buffer. btw it is a shame that Micheal Buffer is going to announce fight between these guys
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/78037 vs
http://boxrec.com/en/boxer/42799 (he is also a promoter of this event) sounds like a joke but it's true
promotor of this event said that names possible to fight Wach on this event are Jennings, Chisora, Kudryashov and Helenius. he once mentioned even Tyson Fury

.also Izu Ugonoh fights on this event but rejected to fight Wach
At least Wach's hand wasn't seriously injured then. That's what finished me and lots of others, hand injury.
Kudryashow? Is he moving to heavyweight? He could, but my pet peeve, there's no fair place in boxing for guys just over 200. Wach would outweigh him by about 60 pounds. Boxing badly needs a superheavyweight division. That would be some slugfest though.
And I was wondering what's up with Helenius. And I forgot about Jennings. He's won three mediocre quick KO's in a row since getting KO'd by K. Kong.
Tyson Fury isn't ready yet. I wonder how his comeback will be. Helenius has demonstrated how hard it is to get back into top form in this sport after being absent for a long time, even tho he trained very hard and stayed in good shape.
Wach's body in the Miller fight rather belied his training assertion. he looked "soft around the middle", as whatshisname said in "Fat City" (a very good boxing movie!).
Thanks for the info on the May event in Poland. I didn't know about it. Michael Buffer huh? As long as it's not that announcer with the long afro pigtails. Who is taht one? His hairdo gives me the heeby jeebies.
Miller-Duhaupas. I think it could go either way. I think 6-1 odds are way out of line and a very good bet on the underdog, Duhaupas.
well Wach recently still a casted hand, like 3 or 4 weeks ago he still had it
in potential Kudryashov vs Wach matchup i cant see Kudrya to be a danger, he has power but Wach got a strong chin, while Kudryashov is vulnerable, easy job for Mariusz. yeah Wach when fought Miller had a figure of old lesbian, i heard it could be due to ped use in past then stop using them, i am not an expert in peds though
Re: Joshua-Miller scheduled for August in New York?
Posted: 22 Feb 2018, 04:56
by dagilechia
jamamb wrote: ↑21 Feb 2018, 16:39
btw duhaupas is some globe trekker aint he. fights in 12 countries and 13 if the spain fights happen
france, japan, netherlands, panama, usa, poland, finland, russia, algeria, germany, monaco, switzerland, and maybe spain soon
this list is very impressive, but i cant recall him fighting in Poland actually. Takam has probably visited 10 countries or so too, it looks like boxing is really unpopular in France