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Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 09 Mar 2018, 13:05
by oogiebe
BitPlayer wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 13:02
oogiebe wrote: 09 Mar 2018, 12:17 There certainly were a ton of great middleweights!
Yeah, one of the reasons I did this was to learn about a lot I've never looked into. Around Lightweight to Light Heavyweight always seemed to me to be where most of the talent was. A lot of weight jumpers, but there's probably most of the top 10 P4P all time in the tournament, even if a few are a bit on the small side. Greb, Langford, Fitz, and Robinson are all pretty consenus.
Greb is particularly interesting having been the only fighter to defeat Gene Tunney. Tunney won, I believe two rematches.
You could list 200 fighters in this division! I admire your taking this on! It'll be fun!

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 17:15
by BitPlayer
I'm going to open the next round and close the last one.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 17:29
by BitPlayer
Tiger Flowers 0
Harry Greb 6

Joey Giardello 4
Mustafa Hamsho 1

Dave Shade 2
Young Corbett III 3

Rocky Graziano 4
Fred Apostoli 1

Bert Colima 1
Cocoa Kid 4

Rocky Castellani 3
Charlie Mitchell 2

Billy Papke 5
George Chip 0

Jack Blackburn 0
Miguel Cotto 5

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 11 Mar 2018, 17:31
by BitPlayer
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/Z23NDZP

Group 2
Billy Joe Saunders Vs Lou Broulliard
Jim Hall Vs Billy Conn
Len Harvey Vs Carl Olson
Cyclone Johnny Thompson Vs William "Gorilla" Jones
Mike O'Dowd Vs Tony Zale
Luis Manuel Rodriguez Vs Nonpareil Jack Dempsey
Vito Antuofermo Vs Nino Benvenuti
Joey Archer Vs Johnny Wilson

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 16:54
by BitPlayer
Given how much people argue about fantasy fights, I'm amazed how little interest this has gotten.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 16:55
by jamamb
maybe too many fighters ppl dont know much about

cyclone johnny thompson for example was born in 1876 and done by 1914 and i cant see any footage of him

im sure it sounds hip to say a 5'4 former lightweight like him clowns ggg, but hard to say with so little and i doubt many ppl really know much about him

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 15 Mar 2018, 17:19
by BitPlayer
jamamb wrote: 15 Mar 2018, 16:55 maybe too many fighters ppl dont know much about

cyclone johnny thompson for example was born in 1876 and done by 1914 and i cant see any footage of him

im sure it sounds hip to say a 5'4 former lightweight like him clowns ggg, but hard to say with so little and i doubt many ppl really know much about him
Maybe, getting up to 128 wasn't that easy, though you can just skip questions on the poll, and the thread never got much interest. I'm still hoping it'll pick up a bit of steam at some point.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 16:49
by BitPlayer
Going to close the current round and open the next one in a sec.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 16:57
by BitPlayer
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/BGR2XXX
Les Darcy Vs Terry Downes
Mike Gibbons Vs Nigel Benn
Bernard Hopkins Vs Eddie McGoorty
Sugar Ray Seales Vs Marcel Thil
Solly Krieger Vs Marcel Cerdan
Jermain Taylor Vs Holly Mims
Joe Walcott Vs Roy Jones Jr
Jack Chase Vs Tommy Gibbons

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 16:57
by HomicideHenry
Can I join in on the predictions?

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 17:01
by BitPlayer
Last round results
Billy Joe Saunders 0
Lou Broulliard 2

Jim Hall 0
Billy Conn 3

Len Harvey 1
Carl Olson 1

Cyclone Johnny Thompson 0
William "Gorilla" Jones 2

Mike O'Dowd 2
Tony Zale 1

Luis Manuel Rodriguez 2
Nonpareil Jack Dempsey 0

Vito Antuofermo 1
Nino Benvenuti 2

Joey Archer 2
Johnny Wilson 0

I'll make my pick for the ties at the end of the round, if anyone wants to convince me one way or the other.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament

Posted: 18 Mar 2018, 17:02
by BitPlayer
HomicideHenry wrote: 18 Mar 2018, 16:57 Can I join in on the predictions?
Just follow the most recent link and make your picks, everyone is welcome to.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 13:12
by BitPlayer
Les Darcy 2
Terry Downes 1

Mike Gibbons 2
Nigel Benn 2

Bernard Hopkins 4
Eddie McGoorty 0

Sugar Ray Seales 1
Marcel Thil 2

Solly Krieger 0
Marcel Cerdan 4

Jermain Taylor 1
Holly Mims 2

Joe Walcott 1
Roy Jones Jr 3

Jack Chase 1
Tommy Gibbons 2

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 25 Mar 2018, 14:55
by BitPlayer
Carlos Monzon Vs John David Jackson
Gennady Golovkin Vs Leo Houck
Steve Belloise Vs Reggie Johnson
Teddy Yarosz Vs Ceferino Garcia
William Joppy Vs William Bryan Downey
Keith Holmes Vs Hugo Corro
Frank Klaus Vs Kelly Pavlik
Kid McCoy Vs Philadelphia Jack O'Brien

https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/NQDNC6D

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 30 Mar 2018, 13:26
by BitPlayer
There's a load of ties this time. Hopefully we get some more votes.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 01 Apr 2018, 14:16
by BitPlayer
Going to close soon.

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 06:13
by BitPlayer
Opps, better close this

Carlos Monzon 3
John David Jackson 0

Gennady Golovkin 2
Leo Houck 0

Steve Belloise 1
Reggie Johnson 1 Draw!

Teddy Yarosz 1
Ceferino Garcia 1 Draw!

William Joppy 2
William Bryan Downey 0

Keith Holmes 1
Hugo Corro 1 Draw!

Frank Klaus 0
Kelly Pavlik 2

Kid McCoy 0
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 2

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 02 Apr 2018, 06:19
by BitPlayer
James Toney Vs Mickey Walker
Cyrille Delannoit Vs Sumbu Kalambay
Daniel Jacobs Vs Eddie Booker
Billy Soose Vs Al McCoy
Roberto Duran Vs Lloyd Marshall
Sugar Ray Robinson Vs Jorge Castro
Bennie Briscoe Vs Sam Langford
Professor Mike Donovan Vs Bob Fitzsimmons

Please vote here> https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/D2TCVTK

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 08 Apr 2018, 16:45
by BitPlayer
James Toney 1
Mickey Walker 2

Cyrille Delannoit 1
Sumbu Kalambay 2

Daniel Jacobs 1
Eddie Booker 2

Billy Soose 2
Al McCoy 0

Roberto Duran 1
Lloyd Marshall 1 Draw!

Sugar Ray Robinson 3
Jorge Castro 0

Bennie Briscoe 1
Sam Langford 2

Professor Mike Donovan 0
Bob Fitzsimmons 3

Re: Boxrec Forum All Time Middleweight Tournament *Round 1 Voting Open*

Posted: 08 Apr 2018, 16:51
by BitPlayer
PLEASE VOTE HERE > https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/GG9LSB5

Marvin Hagler Vs Paul Pender
Ken Overlin Vs Eddie Risko
Canelo Álvarez Vs Mike McCallum
Carmen Basilio Vs Bert Gilroy
Spider Webb Vs Alan Minter
Stanley Ketchel Vs Dan Creedon
Charles Humez Vs Dick Tiger
Peter Mueller Vs Jock Malone

Edit:

If anyone is interested in the results

Marvin Hagler 6
Paul Pender 0

Ken Overlin 5
Eddie Risko 1

Canelo Álvarez 1
Mike McCallum 5

Carmen Basilio 4
Bert Gilroy 3

Spider Webb 4
Alan Minter 2

Stanley Ketchel 5
Dan Creedon 1

Charles Humez 0
Dick Tiger 6

Peter Mueller 2
Jock Malone 4